Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[Bennett Todd]

Well, tastes can reasonably differ on that point. Bunging all of the 
complexity, of implementation, of design tradeoffs, and of documentation, into 
one big module might suit some tastes. Not mine, as either an implementor or a 
user.

Not all uses need all components, and I for myself would rather implement, or 
learn to use, or need to maintain, one simpler component at a time.

Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[ToddAndMargo]

On 03/01/2017 01:27 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:04 PM, ToddAndMargo > wrote:

Anyone know how to do an attachment with Net::SMTP.


Didn't you ask that a couple months ago, and I told you to look for a
MIME module?


Yes, but it didn't sink in.



I am starting to think that Net::SMTP and other low level modules need
to be buried somehow; people tend to think of sending an email with a
subject and an attachment as one thing, when the implementation actually
involves three independent protocols one wrapped around another (SMTP,
core email, MIME), and the result is various people will always be
expecting one of those levels to be all three.


Agreed.  It would be nice to have a high level module to do all this.

Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[Brandon Allbery]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:04 PM, ToddAndMargo  wrote:

> Anyone know how to do an attachment with Net::SMTP.


Didn't you ask that a couple months ago, and I told you to look for a MIME
module?

I am starting to think that Net::SMTP and other low level modules need to
be buried somehow; people tend to think of sending an email with a subject
and an attachment as one thing, when the implementation actually involves
three independent protocols one wrapped around another (SMTP, core email,
MIME), and the result is various people will always be expecting one of
those levels to be all three.

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Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[ToddAndMargo]

On 03/01/2017 12:03 PM, yary wrote:


On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:01 PM, yary > wrote:

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:54 PM, ToddAndMargo > wrote:

MIME::Lite


Sorry not MIME::Lite but "a number of alternatives, like Email::MIME or
MIME::Entity and Email::Sender, which you should probably use instead. "

-y



Thank you!

I have some research to do!


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Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[yary]

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:54 PM, ToddAndMargo  wrote:

> MIME::Lite


That's the key- use MIME::Lite to build the headers and body of an email
that has an attachment. Then use Net::SMTP, either the perl5 or perl6
version, to send it.

SMTP knows nothing about attachments. MIME::Lite takes all the bits that
need to be packaged into a "rich" message and creates a long string, full
of headers and body,. that you can hand to an SMTP server to deliver.

-y

Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[ToddAndMargo]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:04 PM, ToddAndMargo > wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone know how to do an attachment with Net::SMTP.
I need to attach a tar ball.

I see this is Thunderbird's message source, but ..


--0__=0ABB0A53DFD693F18f9e8a93df938690918c0ABB0A53DFD693F1
Content-type: image/gif;
name="pic15602.gif"
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic15602.gif"
Content-transfer-encoding: base64



Many thanks,
-T

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On 03/01/2017 01:51 AM, Fernando Santagata wrote:

Hi,

Net::SMTP manages the SMTP protocol: the email transfer from one server
to the next one; it doesn't "build" an email.

As far as I can see, there's no Perl6 module to create a MIME email,
such as the MIME::Lite Perl5 module.
This doesn't mean that there's no way to do that using Perl6: you can
always use Inline::Perl5 to load the Perl5 module and transparently use
it in your program.

HTH

--
Fernando Santagata


Hi Fernando,

I have been looking at how to do this over on Perl 5's
Net::SMTP.  It has something to do with the data command
and you providing your own headers.  I am not the first one
to have asked this question.  I will keep looking.

Thank you for the help!

-T

Re: pod question

[mt1957]

On 03/01/2017 03:50 PM, Will Coleda wrote:

Not true, '=for' is part of POD6. See below.

If you're getting errors, it's helpful to reduce the example to a
reasonably small bit of code that duplicates the same error; either
you'll realize the issue as you remove unrelated bits of code, or
you'll end up with an example that epitomizes the problem you're
facing.


$ cat foo.p6
=for comment
This is a comment

say "hi";

$ perl6 foo.p6
hi


Hi Will,


I've tried it out and found my mistake. I continued typing after the 
first word like so


=for head1 abc def

instead of

=for head1
abc def


Many thanks,
Marcel

pod question

[mt1957]

Hi,

Is it true that the '=for' is taken out of the pod language? I get 
errors when I use it. It should take the line and the next lines as a 
block. I've also seen that it has the same effect now when I don't use it.


Regards,

Marcel

Re: pod question

[Will Coleda]

Not true, '=for' is part of POD6. See below.

If you're getting errors, it's helpful to reduce the example to a
reasonably small bit of code that duplicates the same error; either
you'll realize the issue as you remove unrelated bits of code, or
you'll end up with an example that epitomizes the problem you're
facing.


$ cat foo.p6
=for comment
   This is a comment

say "hi";

$ perl6 foo.p6
hi

Re: Net::SMTP attachments?

[Fernando Santagata]

Hi,

Net::SMTP manages the SMTP protocol: the email transfer from one server to
the next one; it doesn't "build" an email.

As far as I can see, there's no Perl6 module to create a MIME email, such
as the MIME::Lite Perl5 module.
This doesn't mean that there's no way to do that using Perl6: you can
always use Inline::Perl5 to load the Perl5 module and transparently use it
in your program.

HTH

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:04 PM, ToddAndMargo 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Anyone know how to do an attachment with Net::SMTP.
> I need to attach a tar ball.
>
> I see this is Thunderbird's message source, but ..
>
>
> --0__=0ABB0A53DFD693F18f9e8a93df938690918c0ABB0A53DFD693F1
>> Content-type: image/gif;
>> name="pic15602.gif"
>> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic15602.gif"
>> Content-transfer-encoding: base64
>>
>
>
> Many thanks,
> -T
>
> --
> ~~~
> Having been erased,
> The document you're seeking
> Must now be retyped.
> ~~~
>



-- 
Fernando Santagata

Re: for loop index question

[Todd Chester]

On 02/28/2017 11:06 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:

The zip operator in this case takes two sequences and interleaves them
into a single sequence. It might be useful if you have handy or can
generate a list of keys and a list of values you want to put together
in pairs using => to create a hash table.

Your explicit approach makes sense for readability - it can aid
comprehension if a fake address looks like a real one.



Thank you!

Re: for loop index question

[Todd Chester]

On 03/01/2017 12:45 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:

Todd,

As Andrew explained Z takes two arrays and an operator, eg. =>, or +,
and then 'runs' the operator on the elements of the two lists.

Here, you defined @x as a list of strings. I defined two lists, one of
keys and one of values. Then I zipped the two together with the =>
operator that associates keys with values.

Personally, I find

%h =  Z=> 

as easier to read. I am happy not to have () and "" and ',', and the
problems of matching them, cluttering the line.

I think that the fewer the characters there are, the clearer it is to
see the relationships.

It depends on the code, and different code is more elegant and easier to
maintain when written in a different way.

But that is an opinion.

It seems to me that there are a number of new idioms arising in Perl6.
Eventually the more elegant and computationally efficient idioms will
become apparent.

From time to time, I look at the code in the modules to see if there are
nicer ways to express something.

I also can type almost as fast I think. But having typed, I think again,
and usually rewrite to make things clearer.


Thank you!