Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Richard Hainsworth
So I'd change that to after a production release of a Perl 6 compiler Out of curiosity (because I think it will illuminate some of the difficulty Rakudo devs have in declaring something to be a production release): - What constitues a production release? - What was the first

RE: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Anderson, Jim
Hear! Hear! -Original Message- From: Daniel Carrera [mailto:dcarr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:15 AM To: Richard Hainsworth Cc: perl6-users@perl.org Subject: Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl Although everything you said is technically

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Wendell Hatcher
There has been requests and talk of a production release for years now. Fancy titles released have come out monthly and quarterly for some time. At some point you have to say it simply isn't a good product or it is going to production how long are we going to hear excuses of my dog died past

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Jan Ingvoldstad
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 17:30, Guy Hulbert gwhulb...@eol.ca wrote: Rakudo is not listed here: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ Fixing that is something I'd like to help with. Note that go was listed *before* it was announced. That tells me that the go authors are, in some small way, more

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Wendell Hatcher
My point is make it a production release so peeps can push it to the powers that be in the corporate world. This has been the longest production build in test in the history of mankind. If this was a real world project it would have been dead sometime ago. Sent from my iPhone Wendell Hatcher

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Richard Hainsworth
On 01/05/11 19:48, Daniel Carrera wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Richard Hainsworthrich...@rusrating.ru wrote: It is blindingly obvious that the majority of language users, ..., will only start to use a language when it is recommended by 'those in authority'... I think the issue of

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 10:24 -0700, Wendell Hatcher wrote: I have to agree I don't think this is a serious project. In-fact at this point it seems like a bunch of friends working on a hobby in their basement. I'm not sure I said anything to agree with. You seem to misinterpret my intention.

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Richard Hainsworth
'serious project' ??? For some 'serious' people, Perl6 is a 'serious project'. Concepts of 'serious' differ amongst reasonable people. Not a problem if your 'serious' aint my 'serious'. As an aside, it took 358 years to prove Fermat's Last Theorem. Wiles - who proved it - shut himself away

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Guy, Your idea is actually exactly what I was suggesting when I said 'example programs'. I think there are/were perl6 versions for the shootout problems. I am not sure what happened to them. Getting benchmarking will be interesting. Regards, Richard On 01/05/11 20:15, Guy Hulbert wrote:

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-05 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2011-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: 'serious project' ??? For some 'serious' people, Perl6 is a 'serious project'. Concepts of 'serious' differ amongst reasonable people. Not a problem if your 'serious' aint my 'serious'. For programming languages, there are