Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-15 Thread Tobias Leich
We have no installer that installs stuff available for a window manager,
so we cannot place links in menus etc.

Am 15.09.2014 um 11:34 schrieb Alex Becker:
 Ah, sorry, I didn't see the interpreter link. Have to check it again...

 Regarding the portable idea: I meant that if we add the book on
 Windows, we should do the same on other platforms.

 About the other links: sometimes, applications install a HTML page
 with more information. We could do the same, starting with an HTML
 page containing what we have here: http://rakudo.org/documentation/
 Maybe we can make it somewhat nice-looking, not just a plain
 black/white page.


 2014-09-14 14:07 GMT+02:00 Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de
 mailto:em...@froggs.de:

 There is already a shurtcut to the perl6 interpreter (REPL) in the
 start
 menu.
 And since the msi is for windows only, we don't have to care about
 linux
 and mac here :o)

 But I'd propose more links perhaps...
 rakudo.org http://rakudo.org
 perl6.org http://perl6.org
 docs.perl6.org http://docs.perl6.org
 maybe even one to the freenode webchat

 Thoughts?

 Am 14.09.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Alex:
  Hi!
 
  After I had a look at the book, I would say yes, please add to
 book to the installer.
  And please add a start menu entry, with 2 shortcuts:
  One to the book and
  One to a console where one can immediately run perl6 (where
 perl6 is added to path)
 
  This idea should be portable, providing shortcuts on Mac or any
 other Linux box should, work, too.
 
  Best regards and thanks for all the answers!
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de
 mailto:em...@froggs.de:
 
  My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add
 the book
  and useful links to the start menu?
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
  Hi,
 
  Install path is known limitation
  https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom
 path you
  need to compile it from source for now
 
  Where to begin?
 
  I propose to start:
  http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest
 differences
 
  then:
  http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
  http://doc.perl6.org/
 
  If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/
 Even
  though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great
 because is
  the most complete
 
  Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources
 
  I hope didn't write to much for a first time
 
  On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker
 asb.c...@gmail.com mailto:asb.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
  When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on
 C:\rakudo.
  It was luck because no message indicated that install
 location and I found
  it only because I checked if the installer would really put
 it on my small
  OS SSD (= bad).
 
  Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't
 find it. Where
  is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in
 the start menu
  (I like that best).
 
  Is there a getting started guide?
 
  I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.
 
  Best regards,
  Alex





Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-15 Thread Alex Becker
Back at home, I tested the Perl6 shortcut in the start menu.
It's not what I was looking for.

I was expecting something similar to the developper command prompt of
Visual Studio. Something like this:
* Open a console window where PATH is set up to find everything related to
Perl 6
* Be able to run a command like perl6 my_script.pl and have a look at the
result

At the moment, the shortcut only opens an interactive shell. I never had
use for such a shell - regardless of the language (personal opinion, of
course).

For example, you can define
C:\rakudo\bin\perl6-developer-console-startup.cmd as follows:
@echo OFF
SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\rakudo\bin
echo Welcome to the Perl 6 developer console.
call perl6 -v
echo Type 'perl6 your_script.pl' to run your_script.pl
@echo ON

And then create a shortcut C:\rakudo\bin\Perl6 Developer Console.lnk with
the following command:

%comspec% /k C:\rakudo\bin\perl6-developer-console-startup.cmd


It will open a console, set the path, print perl version, and a welcome
message.

2014-09-14 14:07 GMT+02:00 Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de:

 There is already a shurtcut to the perl6 interpreter (REPL) in the start
 menu.
 And since the msi is for windows only, we don't have to care about linux
 and mac here :o)

 But I'd propose more links perhaps...
 rakudo.org
 perl6.org
 docs.perl6.org
 maybe even one to the freenode webchat

 Thoughts?

 Am 14.09.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Alex:
  Hi!
 
  After I had a look at the book, I would say yes, please add to book to
 the installer.
  And please add a start menu entry, with 2 shortcuts:
  One to the book and
  One to a console where one can immediately run perl6 (where perl6 is
 added to path)
 
  This idea should be portable, providing shortcuts on Mac or any other
 Linux box should, work, too.
 
  Best regards and thanks for all the answers!
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de:
 
  My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add the book
  and useful links to the start menu?
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
  Hi,
 
  Install path is known limitation
  https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom path you
  need to compile it from source for now
 
  Where to begin?
 
  I propose to start:
  http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest differences
 
  then:
  http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
  http://doc.perl6.org/
 
  If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/ Even
  though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great because is
  the most complete
 
  Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources
 
  I hope didn't write to much for a first time
 
  On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker asb.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
  When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on C:\rakudo.
  It was luck because no message indicated that install location and I
 found
  it only because I checked if the installer would really put it on my
 small
  OS SSD (= bad).
 
  Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't find it.
 Where
  is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in the start
 menu
  (I like that best).
 
  Is there a getting started guide?
 
  I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.
 
  Best regards,
  Alex




Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-15 Thread Tobias Leich
I will add that to the next release! Thank you :o)

Am 15.09.2014 um 20:23 schrieb Alex Becker:
 Back at home, I tested the Perl6 shortcut in the start menu.
 It's not what I was looking for.

 I was expecting something similar to the developper command prompt of
 Visual Studio. Something like this:
 * Open a console window where PATH is set up to find everything
 related to Perl 6
 * Be able to run a command like perl6 my_script.pl
 http://my_script.pl and have a look at the result

 At the moment, the shortcut only opens an interactive shell. I never
 had use for such a shell - regardless of the language (personal
 opinion, of course).

 For example, you can define
 C:\rakudo\bin\perl6-developer-console-startup.cmd as follows:
 @echo OFF
 SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\rakudo\bin
 echo Welcome to the Perl 6 developer console.
 call perl6 -v
 echo Type 'perl6 your_script.pl http://your_script.pl' to run
 your_script.pl http://your_script.pl
 @echo ON

 And then create a shortcut C:\rakudo\bin\Perl6 Developer Console.lnk
 with the following command:

 %comspec% /k C:\rakudo\bin\perl6-developer-console-startup.cmd


 It will open a console, set the path, print perl version, and a
 welcome message.

 2014-09-14 14:07 GMT+02:00 Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de
 mailto:em...@froggs.de:

 There is already a shurtcut to the perl6 interpreter (REPL) in the
 start
 menu.
 And since the msi is for windows only, we don't have to care about
 linux
 and mac here :o)

 But I'd propose more links perhaps...
 rakudo.org http://rakudo.org
 perl6.org http://perl6.org
 docs.perl6.org http://docs.perl6.org
 maybe even one to the freenode webchat

 Thoughts?

 Am 14.09.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Alex:
  Hi!
 
  After I had a look at the book, I would say yes, please add to
 book to the installer.
  And please add a start menu entry, with 2 shortcuts:
  One to the book and
  One to a console where one can immediately run perl6 (where
 perl6 is added to path)
 
  This idea should be portable, providing shortcuts on Mac or any
 other Linux box should, work, too.
 
  Best regards and thanks for all the answers!
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de
 mailto:em...@froggs.de:
 
  My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add
 the book
  and useful links to the start menu?
 
  Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
  Hi,
 
  Install path is known limitation
  https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom
 path you
  need to compile it from source for now
 
  Where to begin?
 
  I propose to start:
  http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest
 differences
 
  then:
  http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
  http://doc.perl6.org/
 
  If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/
 Even
  though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great
 because is
  the most complete
 
  Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources
 
  I hope didn't write to much for a first time
 
  On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker
 asb.c...@gmail.com mailto:asb.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
  When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on
 C:\rakudo.
  It was luck because no message indicated that install
 location and I found
  it only because I checked if the installer would really put
 it on my small
  OS SSD (= bad).
 
  Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't
 find it. Where
  is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in
 the start menu
  (I like that best).
 
  Is there a getting started guide?
 
  I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.
 
  Best regards,
  Alex





Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-14 Thread Alex
Hi!

After I had a look at the book, I would say yes, please add to book to the 
installer.
And please add a start menu entry, with 2 shortcuts:
One to the book and
One to a console where one can immediately run perl6 (where perl6 is added to 
path)

This idea should be portable, providing shortcuts on Mac or any other Linux box 
should, work, too.

Best regards and thanks for all the answers!

 Am 11.09.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de:
 
 My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add the book
 and useful links to the start menu?
 
 Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
 Hi,
 
 Install path is known limitation
 https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom path you
 need to compile it from source for now
 
 Where to begin?
 
 I propose to start:
 http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest differences
 
 then:
 http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
 http://doc.perl6.org/
 
 If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/ Even
 though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great because is
 the most complete
 
 Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources
 
 I hope didn't write to much for a first time
 
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker asb.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
 When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on C:\rakudo.
 It was luck because no message indicated that install location and I found
 it only because I checked if the installer would really put it on my small
 OS SSD (= bad).
 
 Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't find it. Where
 is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in the start menu
 (I like that best).
 
 Is there a getting started guide?
 
 I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.
 
 Best regards,
 Alex
 


Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-14 Thread Tobias Leich
There is already a shurtcut to the perl6 interpreter (REPL) in the start
menu.
And since the msi is for windows only, we don't have to care about linux
and mac here :o)

But I'd propose more links perhaps...
rakudo.org
perl6.org
docs.perl6.org
maybe even one to the freenode webchat

Thoughts?

Am 14.09.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Alex:
 Hi!

 After I had a look at the book, I would say yes, please add to book to the 
 installer.
 And please add a start menu entry, with 2 shortcuts:
 One to the book and
 One to a console where one can immediately run perl6 (where perl6 is added to 
 path)

 This idea should be portable, providing shortcuts on Mac or any other Linux 
 box should, work, too.

 Best regards and thanks for all the answers!

 Am 11.09.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Tobias Leich em...@froggs.de:

 My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add the book
 and useful links to the start menu?

 Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
 Hi,

 Install path is known limitation
 https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom path you
 need to compile it from source for now

 Where to begin?

 I propose to start:
 http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest differences

 then:
 http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
 http://doc.perl6.org/

 If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/ Even
 though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great because is
 the most complete

 Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources

 I hope didn't write to much for a first time

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker asb.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
 When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on C:\rakudo.
 It was luck because no message indicated that install location and I found
 it only because I checked if the installer would really put it on my small
 OS SSD (= bad).

 Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't find it. Where
 is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in the start menu
 (I like that best).

 Is there a getting started guide?

 I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.

 Best regards,
 Alex



Re: Getting startes with Perl6 / Rakudo Star / MoarVM

2014-09-11 Thread Tobias Leich
My question would be: shall we install the book too, and add the book
and useful links to the start menu?

Am 11.09.2014 um 10:29 schrieb Kamil Kułaga:
 Hi,

 Install path is known limitation
 https://github.com/rakudo/star/issues/10 If you want custom path you
 need to compile it from source for now

 Where to begin?

 I propose to start:
  http://perlgeek.de/en/article/5-to-6 to know biggest differences

 then:
  http://doc.perl6.org/language.html and of course rest of
 http://doc.perl6.org/

 If you want something really verbose http://perlcabal.org/syn/ Even
 though it is mainly targeted to compiler authors it great because is
 the most complete

 Also http://perl6.org contains link to other resources

 I hope didn't write to much for a first time

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Alex Becker asb.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 I downloaded rakudo-star-2014.08-moar.msi.
 When it was done, luckily, I noticed that it installed on C:\rakudo.
 It was luck because no message indicated that install location and I found
 it only because I checked if the installer would really put it on my small
 OS SSD (= bad).

 Then, I searched for the documentation. I'm sorry, I didn't find it. Where
 is it? I expected some doc folder, a web page, or a link in the start menu
 (I like that best).

 Is there a getting started guide?

 I want to check if some of my scripts work with Perl 6.

 Best regards,
 Alex