Re: English-Persian dictionary on your site (fwd)

2004-03-04 Thread C Bobroff

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 that have access to Aryanpour hardcopy can spend a few minutes to
 confirm that the dictionary at http://www.math.columbia.edu/~safari/dictionary/
 contains the Aryanpour data.

Aryanpur Kashani, Abbas. The Concise English-Persian dictionary.

-Connie
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Re: English-Persian dictionary on your site (fwd)

2004-03-04 Thread Peyman
Hi folks,

I checked 10 randomly selected words and I didn't find
the same data in my Aryanpour CD (7 volume,
Translators' version). It doesn't seem to me the same
data; however, it may have used Aryanpour as one of
its sources which is quite legal if it is mentioned in
its sources. I also checked those words with Bateni
and that was not Bateni either. There were some words
in it that were not in Aryanpour and vice versa. 

Good luck

Peyman
PS: Mr. Pournader didn't mention that he has also
received a copy of that data ;)

--- Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi again list,
 
 I am forwarding response I got from Dr Pedram Safari
 which seems
 to be hosting Massoud Hashemi's dictionary.  Please
 CC him in
 replies.
 
 I would reply in a few days with a conclusion on the
 thread after
 we read other peoples opinions.  Perhaps those
 friends in Iran
 that have access to Aryanpour hardcopy can spend a
 few minutes to
 confirm that the dictionary at
 http://www.math.columbia.edu/~safari/dictionary/
 contains the Aryanpour data.  You can do this by
 randomly
 selecting a few words (10) and confirm that the
 meaning matches
 word by word in it's order and eveything.
 
 Roozbeh, can you please explain the Iranian
 copyright laws one
 more time?
 
 Thanks
 behdad
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 04:53:31 -0500
 From: Pedram Safari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   Behdad Esfahbod behdad
 Subject: Re: English-Persian dictionary on your site
 
 Dear Behdad Esfahbod,
 
 Thank you for your interest in the English-Persian
 dictionary on my
 homepage. Let me first tell you that I am not aware
 of the copyright
 status of the dictionary, I am just hosting Masood's
 program. I am also
 not aware of the inquiry you are talking about. But
 I can tell you a few
 facts, if that helps.
 
 First, I know that Masood himself wrote the script
 that runs the
 dictionary -- I can testify to that. I do not know
 how he has obtained the
 database, if he has entered that himself manually or
 he has received it
 from other sources. I also think he had once told me
 that the data is
 based on Aryanpour's dictionary, but I was not in a
 position to verify
 that, so I preferred not to advertise the dictionary
 using Aryanpours'
 popularity.
 
 Next thing I can assure you of is that I personally
 gave the source file
 of Masood's program, including the database, to
 people in the Computing
 Center of Sharif University of Technology (either to
 Majid Khanban or to
 Rouzbeh Pournader). I gave the source files to them
 based on Masood's
 permission. They said they wanted to write a php
 file to better suit their
 website, which was OK with us.
 
 These are the facts. After a while they put up an
 English-Persian
 dictionary (on the schoolnet site, I suppose),
 without giving Masood any
 credit. I can think that they have used the database
 as well, but I can
 not be sure.
 
 In any case, I guess there is no copyright law being
 enforced in our
 country, but I am certainly not in favor of
 plagiarism, so if you can
 prove to me that there is a theft involved, I will
 take necessary action.
 I am also quite curious about the source of the
 dictionary on schoolnet.
 
 You may circulate this e-mail to people who might be
 interested, but on
 two conditions. To avoid any abuse, no part of this
 message should be
 deleted during the circulation and it should go
 around in its entirety. I
 should also receive any reply or comment relate to
 this issue.
 
 Best
 Pedram
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