Re: WEFT webpage font embedding--Call for feedback
In a message dated Friday 07 May 2004 18:30, C Bobroff wrote: > On Fri, 7 May 2004, Arash Zeini wrote: > > Hi Arash, > > You must have an older version of Tahoma on your computer. I think > these Latin characters with diacritics were only recently added to > Tahoma. This might be true. I will try to get a newer one and let you know if anything changes. Greetings, Arash > (They seem to have forgotten z with line underneath even in the > latest which is a problem for Persian transliteration.) Or maybe the > reason was something else? Even when I was trying to create a PDF file > from the webpage, Adobe showed unknown character boxes for those same > characters you mentioned even though they were displayed just fine on > the the webpage. I had to waste a lot of time making a screenshot jpeg > then converting to pdf! > > Of course, Weft is not supposed to work on Konqueror/KDE. Perhaps it is > possible to add the missing features. I know it used to be possible to > use Weft on Netscape until they voluntarily stopped supporting whatever > necessary component was involved in implementing Weft. Whether this was > a technical or commercial decision, I don't know. > > -Connie > > ___ > PersianComputing mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: WEFT webpage font embedding--Call for feedback
Hi Connie, On Konqueror 3.2.0 on KDE 3.2.0 all is fine except "h" and "z" in Hafiz (áÄfiá). The same applies to BusáÄq as it uses the same "h". Greetings, Arash In a message dated Friday 07 May 2004 08:31, C Bobroff wrote: > We've had a few discussions about WEFT before in the past but never > really explored it completely. Therefore, I made this demo page in both > English and Persian and embedded Tahoma, Koodak(by FarsiWeb) and Arabic > Typesetting: > http://students.washington.edu/irina/persianword/weft.htm > > Can you please check if Weft has worked? Do you see my fonts correctly? > Is the Yeh (medial form) showing up correctly in all fonts, especially > on Win98? Is the load time any longer than usual? If you have the old, > buggy Tahoma font, is my corrected font showing up instead? If you have > the old Sinasoft or Borna Koodak, is my FarsiWeb Koodak showing up? > > Please report your findings! Be sure to mention which version of Windows > and IE. By the way, you have to uninstall these fonts if you have them, > otherwise, the test is not too helpful :) > > As you may know, Weft only works on Windows and IE so don't bother to > check on anything else. Also please don't look at the source code! I > was in a great hurry and yes, it's a mess. Anyone who is qualified is > welcome to redo it if too unbearable. I would appreciate that! > > Thanks! > -Connie > ___ > PersianComputing mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Days of the Week abbreviated
In a message dated Monday 03 May 2004 01:47, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: [...] > And the third one in the screenshot attached is the first layout, > but instead of single letter day of week names, I have used > something more intuitive, but apparently it's quite a failure and > should never be used. > > > Later, > --behdad > behdad.org The third layout is similar to what we have used for KDE as well. With the difference of the direction. I personally like the first layout more, but the third one is more intuitive as you say. Greetings, Arash -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: English-Persian dictionary on your site
In a message dated Saturday 06 March 2004 22:20, C Bobroff wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Linguasoft wrote: > > Just a few thoughts why things happen that may appear strange at a > > first glance... > > Peter, > > Speaking of strange, I think you may enjoy this book if you haven't read > it already: > > AUTHOR Winchester, Simon > TITLEThe professor and the madman : a tale of murder, insanity, > and the making of the Oxford English dictionary. > EDITION 1st ed > PUBL INFONew York : HarperCollins Publishers, c1998 > PHYS DESCxi, 242 p. : ill. ; 22 cm > > > -Connie Excellent book. If you are interested in lexicography this is a must. Thanks for the recommendation Connie. Arash -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] Re: Persian Academy's computer terms
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 21:57, C Bobroff wrote: > Hi Arash, > > > The same list is also available from www.amitis.org under the > > terminology section. > > I couldn't locate the terminology section. Can you give a direct URL? > > Thanks, > Connie Hi Connie, At this time you need to login to see Terminology. It is part of the standard menu for reg. users. The reason you need to register is because people are able to submit new entries. We need to change this later so that anonymous users can see and reg. users can see and post. Greetings, Arash -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
[PersianComputing] Re: Persian Academy's computer terms
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 14:26, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > The Persian Academy has published its first official list of computer > terms that have been finalized (that is, approved by the President of > the Islamic Republic of Iran). The copy I'm holding is labeled "second > edition" and is dated "Dey of 1381" (2003-01). It has an appendix of the > Iranian law on illegality of usage of any foreign words Academy has > passed an equivalent for, dated 1375/9/28 (1996-12-18). > > This does not include terms like "computer" or "email" that has been > considered *general* terms and were published long ago. > > You can buy the physical thing from the Persian Academy's bookshop, on > Ahmad-e Ghasir (Bokharest) Avenue, at the corner of the 3rd Street. > > To get to the good part, the word list is available as an XML file from > the address: > > http://www.farsiweb.info/academy/comp1.xml > > For those who don't know how to handle hot stuff, I've made a very > spartan HTML version available at: > > http://www.farsiweb.info/academy/comp1.html > > And for those who wonder how I've created the HTML from the XML, the > XSLT file is available at (forgive my incompetence in XSLT): > > http://www.farsiweb.info/academy/html.xsl > > Oh, the winner of the Funniest Word Award? It's "mooshi" for "mouse"! > > roozbeh It's worth mentioning that this list and other lists of "Farhangestan" approved words are also available from the Farhangestan site, which seems to be down today! (Does anyone know why?) The lists are usually available somewhere here: http://www.persianacademy.ir/ The same list is also available from www.amitis.org under the terminology section. We may however move away from this application as we are going to add more words to the list and need to differentiate the sources in a more clear way, which is currently not possible. Greetings, Arash -- The FarsiKDE Project www.farsikde.org ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] NEWS FLASH concerning fonts
On Saturday 12 October 2002 00:59, C Bobroff wrote: > > From your comments about the Konqueror snapshot, that I had sent, I > > understood, that it comes close to what you wanted. > > That's right. Only I just wasn't sure whether my font of choice wasn't > working because you didn't install it or because it was not possible for > technical reasons. Well, fonts don't work the same way for me as I am using GNU/Linux. But as long as you use UTF-8 I will be able to seem them; most probably in another font, than the one you specify in your HTML or the one you use. > That is really great that Konqueror is able to display the diacritics just > like IE and NS 4.x (although I'm still not clear if that is a font thing > or a browser thing.) A combination of operating system, font and browser. At least it was this way. Things are getting better. Actually the FariWeb project was supposed to release some TTF fonts. Does anyone have an idea what the status is? > Actually, I didn't even know Konqueror existed until I got the > screenshots from you guys which I really appreciate and I thank you for > enlightening me. Yes, GNU/Linux and KDE are real. > > But if everythign else was OK, why do you wan to use Weft? > > I want to use Weft because, I, newbie, technically unsavvy with much > difficulty managed to get some sort of Persian website up and running > which at least 80% of the people can use. That is a big acheivement for me > because I could not find any help so just did the best I could. There is > not a whole lot of info to be found on Persian webdev and no actual > websites to use as models. Have a look at www.farsikde.org if you are searching for a model :) (just to note that these pages exist) Also feel free to ask on this list, me or somebody else from this list. Most people will be able to help with this. [...] > I have used Unicode encoding on my site. I think we're talking about font > problems > here and I think the thing is that you may be sitting in a country where > people already have a dozen Persian fonts loaded on their computer or are > used to the procedure of installing them, but over here, hardly anyone > (especially my target users) has Persian fonts and can not or will not > install. Well, I am sitting in a country where a lot of people have a lot of fonts loaded, but that doesn't help me, because I cannot load those fonts on GNU/Linux, at least most of the time. So I have to look that it works without no-standard solutions. And the standard is UTF-8. [...] > Well, give me credit for going to great lengths to at least make my site > ok in Netscape 4.6. (I saw that at least the diacritics worked with > that.) In the end I not only failed to make it work in NS 4.6 but also > added a lot of junk code which, if I get around to it, I'll clean up. Oh, yes, you get and deserve credit. Consider this just a healthy discussion :) Please send me the URL of your site again. I will take a look at your HTML source. Maybe we can cleanup something in a more automated way. > I'm having the same experience as you with your Tamil: the scholars are > ecstatic and don't cease to send compliments while the technical people > treat me like a criminal :) :) You are sitting in the same boat as me at that time. How to make an "exotic" script/language available to those, who don't have the necessary tools. Greetings, Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] NEWS FLASH concerning fonts
On Thursday 10 October 2002 18:47, C Bobroff wrote: > Arash, > > Do you know if pages with embedded fonts work fine with other browsers as > > well? I mean other browsers than IE. > > First of all, Weft (free) is only for use with IE. THere is another > product called Fairy > http://www.em2-solutions.com/apps/fairy/fairy.htm > which works on all browsers/platforms but costs between US $50 and $700 > depending on what kind of site. (30 day free trial) [...] > One step forwards, 3 steps backwards >From your comments about the Konqueror snapshot, that I had sent, I understood, that it comes close to what you wanted. You made a comment about the font: that's jsut because I am using Arial Unicode M$ to read Farsi pages with Konqueror. But if everythign else was OK, why do you wan to use Weft? I used Weft some years back to embed Tamil fonts into HTML pages and all the scholars really liked it, but I didn't, because it was not working with every Tamil font. I don't know what the problem was. But if you can do whatever you want to do with Unicode, that is really the recommended way. Don't make a webpage that keeps Free Software users out :) Greetings, Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] NEWS FLASH concerning fonts
On Thursday 10 October 2002 01:11, C Bobroff wrote: > I just visited Borna Rayaneh's free font download page at > http://www.bornaray.com/en_fonts.asp?fn=per_fonts&rfn=en_fonts&parent=fonts >list& [...] > My only question: Why didn't one of you inform us of this when the > discussion was going on earlier about using Weft with > these "non-standard" fonts and the recent discussion about > diacritics/short vowel problems in various browsers other than IE?? > I wonder how many members here are from Borna Rayaneh itself?! I don't know how many people here are from Borna but Weft was mentioned (it might have even been me who mwntioned it) very early in the discussion. Do you know if pages with embedded fonts work fine with other browsers as well? I mean other browsers than IE. Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] Re:please send me screenshots!
On Monday 23 September 2002 18:18, C Bobroff wrote: > > Snapshot using Konqueror 3.0.0-12, on KDE 3.0.0-10. > > http://www.linuxiran.org/downloads/yekruz.jpg > > Greetings, > > Arash > > Hey, that Konqueror seems to be the best of the non WinIE5+'s. Thanks! Well, Konqueror is just the BEST :) At least it does handle Farsi quite well, as long as you use UTF-8. It does it better than Mozilla, AFAICS. I don't know about Netscape 7. [...] Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: [PersianComputing] Re:please send me screenshots!
Hi All, Snapshot using Konqueror 3.0.0-12, on KDE 3.0.0-10. http://www.linuxiran.org/downloads/yekruz.jpg Greetings, Arash On Sunday 22 September 2002 21:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the screen shots. Please keep them coming! > > > I mean is it really that hard to write a W3C Standard HTML page with > > Unicode fonts? So that it is anyone can view the webpage? regardless of > > the platform or the brwoser? > > Someone tell me how to make the small vowels and other diacritics work in > other than Win/IE 5+ and I'll make the code conform to whatever browser > also. BUt you have to tell me cuz I couldn't find a way. > > > Nice work Connie, but what are all those 'tashdid's??!! > > Yikes! I can't believe my eyes. I don't know what has happened with the > tashdid's. I've not seen that before?? > > Someone please explain what is happening there! > > > > ___ > PersianComputing mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
[PersianComputing] invitation
I am forwarding my initial email to other mailing lists, in case anybody else is interested. - Forwarded message from Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Hi, Now it would be against the spirit of whatever we like and love, i.e. open source and freedom, to scare somebody off the list and arena. I am sticking to my suggestion to invite you and others to join us to make this thing a better one. On this coming Thursday I am meeting with a student from Theran University to discuss FarsiKDE issues. Whoever is interested is welcome to join us. This is an open forum and all are welcome to join efforts. The meeting is at 11 o'clock in our office in Tehran. Here the address: Chapar Shabdiz Ltd. No. 2, Abshar St., Vali Asr Ave. Tehran - 14346 Iran Please drop me a note if you are coming, so that we are prepared. Hope to see all of you, Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
[PersianComputing] Re: [farsiweb] New Membet
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:43:33 PM, Mostafa Modirrousta wrote: > bA salAm, > > Besides, what is the good of another group of 6-7 people working on a > standardization problem? > > There is already FarsiWeb being active on the issue with a good > connection and I might add authority about the issue. My suggestion is > that those members come and share their know-how with the experts of > FarsiWeb (of which I am not one ;). > > Last word: The message explicitly mentioned that one has to send an email > to ask for login + pw, but again, what would be the use of a small group > working on a universal problem (well, we are the world, n'est-ce pas? > :):):) I thought, it meant you need to send email to become a member of the Group, i.e. mailing list. It is strange that the link is closed! Arash ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
[PersianComputing] Re: [farsiweb] New Membet
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:51:15 PM, Saber XP wrote: >Salam be hame, >lotfan be http://students.washington.edu/irina berid va ruye "yek ruz dar >rostamabade shemiran" click konid va bebinid aya komaki mitunid be in >projeye farsi konid ya na? >age mitunid, ye email be >[EMAIL PROTECTED] beferestid ta ozve >groupe marbute beshid. > >mamnoon The link you mention requires username and password??? ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
