ALEF MAKSURA:
>>This is probably a bug in your software, or just it being old. Alef
Maksura was only a right-joining character until Unicode 3.0 (like Reh,
Dal, ...), and it got changed to a dual-joining character in Unicode
3.0.1.<<
No bug & no old software: Arial Unicode MS (latest version) *does
>>It's [U+0649]. Its ISOLATED and FINAL
>>forms are like [U+06CC], so we show it in
>>the layout as INITIAL form.<<
But doesn't ALEF MAKSURA appear mostly at the end of words, i.e. in its
final or isolated forms? What's more, in Arabic, when you add a personal
suffix (etc.) to ALEF MAKSURA, i
> What if a fontmaker doesn't care about all those linguistics-only needs,
> and wants to give his mates just some support for their language proper,
> as used in modern times, and only in official letters?
Good point. Glad I'm keeping my jpeg-making software handy.
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> Hey, it's the Persian poets who liked to engage in tajnis.
What if a fontmaker doesn't care about all those linguistics-only needs,
and wants to give his mates just some support for their language proper,
as used in modern times, and only in official letter
> Who are you addressing here? A fontmaker that is planning to support the
> whole Unicode Arabic range? She/he will definitely support them. But a
> fontmaker who is only interested in one language? Why in hell should
> she/he support them?
Hey, it's the Persian poets who liked to engage in tajni
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> > Guess what? It's already done. Unicode has the dotless forms of all Arabic
> > letters already encoded. Exercise for the reader: Look at the charts and
> > list all of them.
>
> Exercise for the fontmaker: make them!
Who are you addressing here? A fontmak
> If you can't take my word, I can go and search a Koran next time I went
> home. I don't have a Koran in the office.
And you wouldn't want to check any online Koran sites since that seems to
always entail getting your inbox filled with spam from Nigeria as a
consequence! I just love those!
> Gu
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> I also have only heard of Alif Maksura used in Arabic only in Final
> position, never in initial, medial or isolated.
>
> Please give an example of "dandaane" which must be a Persian invention in
> which case why don't you use Persian Yeh?
[Wearing my Unico
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> Yes, that's what I meant and it took YOU half an hour but would have taken
> me and the silent lurkers weeks or possibly never so thank you.
I don't believe it. Full stop.
> And did I hear you say, "nice MS tool"? Hmmm
It's a nice tool. But it's a sha
> If you mean
> the software, it took about half an hour or a little more because of the
> nice MS tool for its creation.
Yes, that's what I meant and it took YOU half an hour but would have taken
me and the silent lurkers weeks or possibly never so thank you.
And did I hear you say, "nice MS too
> The visa won't get ready until Monday morning either. So I'm getting more
> frustrated, and I stick more to work. The whole reason I came to office
> today was to read possible emails on what happened with the visa.
No, I've alerted all the embassies of the world not to issue you any more
visas
> The visa won't get ready until Monday morning either.
Just in case the visa doesn't come Monday, you might consider making a
transliterated keyboard layout for those occasional Persian typists used
to the English keyboard.
-Connie
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> No, I've alerted all the embassies of the world not to issue you any more
> visas for conferences.
It should have been you then :))
> Look how much we all have profited from the fruits of your visa
> frustations of the past few days--
> a very nice keyboa
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote:
> An exhausted but euphoric Roozbeh?
Not euphoric. Not at all. I just feel talkative. The really good word for
what I am now is tired. I need a lot of alcohol, and then a lot of sleep.
A good Persian word is "mozmahel".
> Admit it, you're enjoying every mi
> An exhausted roozbeh
An exhausted but euphoric Roozbeh?
Admit it, you're enjoying every minute!
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(This is why I found the dotless initial form on your draft
> keyboard difficult to interpret.)
Oh! Is THAT what that was.
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote:
> But doesn't ALEF MAKSURA appear mostly at the end of words, i.e. in its
> final or isolated forms?
It does, but that is the Arabic. A normal Persian Yeh is used in Persian
contexts. For example, both words "ali" and "kobraa" should be written
(and encoded
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