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While I recognise that too much direct advertising for anoxic systems has crept in to this list, I have to agree with Colin's plain statement. I might rephrase his comments as: If data is hard to find regarding successful use of anoxia at levels above 0.5%, you will have two options: 1. do the research (onerous, expensive, and time consuming, especially to match the data on lower levels already in the public from the Getty and many, many others) OR 2. follow Colin's implicit advice, and find a system that will readily achieve levels below 0.2%. (not hard to find) It's obvious that there are many of us with effective anoxic systems (using generators, humidity control, oxygen scavengers, CO2, argon, nitrogen, etc.) more than willing to help you out. Sometimes we may get a little over passionate, but no one in this business expects to make his fortune on anoxia in museums, I think I speak for all the suppliers when I say that generally we are more interested in working with cultural artefacts (and their minder's) than we are in making a big profit (we do like profits, when we can find them). Passing on advice in a forum is always a challenge. Doing this when you have a product to promote is a slippery slope. Please continue to let us know when we are slipping too far. js Jerry Shiner Keepsafe Microclimate Systems www.keepsafe.ca i...@keepsafe.ca +1 416 703 4696 +1 800 683 4696 > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Good morning All, > > For the past several months, I have noticed a dramatically increased > number of posts that advertise commercial pest eradication treatments. > The ZerO2 system is the most glaring example. I understood the PestList > to be a forum for information exchange about museum pest control, not an > advertising hub for subscribers. With tens of posts in the past year, I > have read more than I'll ever care to about the ZerO2 system. If > subscribers other than its maker/distributor would like to recommend it to > one another for particularly challenging cases, I'm all for that exchange. > However, the majority of these posts contain no new information beyond > marketing. Might I recommend that Colin purchase some ad space on the > MuseumPests.net website or other cultural heritage preservation media? > > > Odile Madden, Ph.D > Research Scientist > Museum Conservation Institute > Smithsonian Institution > Email: madd...@si.edu > ________________________________________ > From: ad...@museumpests.net [ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of colin > smith [inhol...@btinternet.com] > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 4:14 AM > To: pestlist@museumpests.net > Subject: Re: [pestlist] Literature on Anoxia at 0,8 O2 levels > > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dear Pascal, > > May I suggest you switch to a more effective system? The ZerO2 system > works at 0.2% or less and it achieves this without any difficulty. > > Best > > Colin Smith > > Colin Smith Conservation Ltd. Direct line Direct line 01444 400481. Mobile > 07777672250 Webs; http://www.csconserv.co.uk/ & http://conserv.biz/ > > > From: Pascal Querner<mailto:pascal.quer...@gmx.at> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:03 PM > To: pestlist@museumpests.net<mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net> > Subject: [pestlist] Literature on Anoxia at 0,8 O2 levels > This is a message from the Museumpests List. > To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > I am revising the literature on Anoxia for museum pests and until now I > only found one citation on experiments with O2 levels of 0,6% to 0,9% > (Rust & Kennedy 1995). Is that the only study with such high O2 levels for > museum pests?? > > We need good recommendations for an anoxia (N2) museum camber that has a > temperature of 26C, but the oxygen level can go only down to 0,8 or 0,6%. > Are there any other studies with such high levels and can you please send > them or the link?? We will work with a 6 weeks cycle for the treatment for > the start. > > If we dont find anything we will start a large-scale experiment with > different pests for these high levels of O2 in Austria, for that we need > as many pest species as possible. If anyone can help us out with live > insects or is interested to participate please also contact me > (pascal.quer...@gmx.at) > > All the best, > > Pascal > > -- > NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > and in the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > and in the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net > and in the subject put: > "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. > > You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. > To change to the DIGEST mode send an > email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: > > set mode digest pestlist > > Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. 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