Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
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Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Group - A small glueboard is already available from APG (Atlantic Paste and Glue Co., Brooklyn, NY). It is the model number 100-1, Catchmaster Insect Trap and Monitor. As it comes from the factory, the full gluebord, laid out flat, measures 7 1/2 x 8 and is perforated to be divided into 3 smaller traps. The smaller traps are to be folded into a tent and can be placed along the floorline or can be placed or hung in the collections. When a small one is folded, it measures 2 1/2 long x 2 1/2 deep x 1 1/2 tall. There is an opening in it, which serves as a viewing port. These are very handy for fabric and clothing collections. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: colin smith inhol...@btinternet.com To: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 6:24 am Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Gretchen, Yes, I totally agree, all sticky traps are monitors and should not be used for control. They also do not need to be as big as some currently available. This is why I am looking at developing a small, discreet little detector with a small glue area, which you can place in tight places. It only needs to catch a few insects. The monitors will be used to; alert a problem, identify the pest or pests and indicate the direction where they may have come from. When it comes to actual methods of control, if the infestation was throughout the building I would advocate placing all infected and delicate items into ZerO2 FlexiCubes and undertake an anoxic treatment. Whilst that was in progress and the collection was safely cocooned I would use the time to deep clean the building and toughly spray with a residual insecticide. At the end of the exposure time, the FlexiCubes can be opened and the collection returned to display. And then a full IPM program should be instigated. Colin Smith Conservation Ltd. Direct line Direct line 01444 400481. Mobile 0672250 Webs;http://www.csconserv.co.uk/ http://conserv.biz/ Alternate email address:- colininnovat...@googlemail.com. Please copy all emails to this address.This email and the information it contains may contain confidential information which it could be a criminal offence for you to disclose without authority. If you are not an intended recipient please notify us immediately; please do not copy or disclose its contents to any person or body, and delete it from your computer systems. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. From: Anderson, Gretchen Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:29 PM To: mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Colin, Unfortunately, I do not have access to my linkedin account at this time, but will join the conversation as soon as I can. I agree with Tom - blunder traps are very effective in identifying the species that are present in a museum - both pest and non pest species. They are also an inexpesive way to start determining population density and distribution. These are the first steps that need to be taken with IPM. Pheremone traps, when used properly, are good for focusing in on specific pests. Pheremones target specific species and not all museum pests have had their pheremones specifically distilled. We are not the primary market. In addition, pheremones attract only the male of the species. Blunder traps and pheremone traps are useful tools for monitoring pests only. Not for eliminating pests. Hope this helps. Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History From: colin smith [mailto:inhol...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 02:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very
Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I have recieved your information. George Hill morro...@cox.net Gilcrease Museum - Original Message - From: colin smith To: pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Gretchen, Yes, I totally agree, all sticky traps are monitors and should not be used for control. They also do not need to be as big as some currently available. This is why I am looking at developing a small, discreet little detector with a small glue area, which you can place in tight places. It only needs to catch a few insects. The monitors will be used to; alert a problem, identify the pest or pests and indicate the direction where they may have come from. When it comes to actual methods of control, if the infestation was throughout the building I would advocate placing all infected and delicate items into ZerO2 FlexiCubes and undertake an anoxic treatment. Whilst that was in progress and the collection was safely cocooned I would use the time to deep clean the building and toughly spray with a residual insecticide. At the end of the exposure time, the FlexiCubes can be opened and the collection returned to display. And then a full IPM program should be instigated. Colin Smith Conservation Ltd. Direct line Direct line 01444 400481. Mobile 0672250 Webs;http://www.csconserv.co.uk/ http://conserv.biz/ Alternate email address:- colininnovat...@googlemail.com. Please copy all emails to this address.This email and the information it contains may contain confidential information which it could be a criminal offence for you to disclose without authority. If you are not an intended recipient please notify us immediately; please do not copy or disclose its contents to any person or body, and delete it from your computer systems. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. From: Anderson, Gretchen Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:29 PM To: mailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Colin, Unfortunately, I do not have access to my linkedin account at this time, but will join the conversation as soon as I can. I agree with Tom - blunder traps are very effective in identifying the species that are present in a museum - both pest and non pest species. They are also an inexpesive way to start determining population density and distribution. These are the first steps that need to be taken with IPM. Pheremone traps, when used properly, are good for focusing in on specific pests. Pheremones target specific species and not all museum pests have had their pheremones specifically distilled. We are not the primary market. In addition, pheremones attract only the male of the species. Blunder traps and pheremone traps are useful tools for monitoring pests only. Not for eliminating pests. Hope this helps. Gretchen Anderson Conservator Carnegie Museum of Natural History From: colin smith [mailto:inhol...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 02:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I’m not ‘re-inventing the wheel’ but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone
Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
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Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
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[pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- The ICOM members list on LinkedIn is having a discussion about the possibility of developing a multi-functional insect trap. I suggested that they post on the pest list as well. If they don't, those of you who are interested should go on to the LinkedIn site to put in your two cents. Barbara Appelbaum This is the posting: Monitoring Dear all, I am considering the development of a multi functional insect trap / monitor which will trap the most common insects in one simple unit. Is there a need for something like this? -- --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: unsubscribe - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: unsubscribe - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com Appelbaum Himmelstein 444 Central Park West New York, NY 10025 212-666-4630 (voice) 212-316-1039 (fax) aa...@mindspring.com website: aandhconservation.org -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: unsubscribe - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Dear list By way of introduction, I’ve been a docent with the Hunt Museum, Limerick, Ireland, for about 15 years. Since my retirement from my ‘real’ job as environmental scientist, the museum has coerced me into becoming its pest monitor. We use ‘blunder’ traps which I check every 2 weeks or so. Because of our proximity to the river Shannon, the traps often contain quite a few insects such as midges that emerge from the aquatic environment. I believe the use of pheromone attractants would make my job a lot easier because it would attract only those pests of concern. I’d like to hear more. Regards Shae Clancy From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of colin smith Sent: 03 January 2012 19:09 To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I’m not ‘re-inventing the wheel’ but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something in a similar price range which actually works! All the best Colin From: bugma...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Barbara - As far as the museum community goes, flat, cardboard glueboards, manufactured by Atlantic Paste Glue Co. of Brooklyn, NY or Bell Laboratories in Wisconsin and others are the best multi-functional insect traps on the market today. Even flying insects end up in these blunder traps. Not only can you determine the kinds of insects getting caught (indoor or outdoor), you can often determine from which direction they're coming. As an added bonus, mice can be caught on the larger ones. And they're cheap! Let's not reinvent the wheel. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Appelbaum Himmelstein aa...@mindspring.com To: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:58 am Subject: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- The ICOM members list on LinkedIn is having a discussion about the possibility of developing a multi-functional insect trap. I suggested that they post on the pest list as well. If they don't, those of you who are interested should go on to the LinkedIn site to put in your two cents. Barbara Appelbaum This is the posting: Monitoring Dear all, I am considering the development of a multi functional insect trap / monitor which will trap the most common insects in one simple unit. Is there a need for something like this? http://www.linkedin.com/e/-vwzbz4-gwyxkeid-39/vaq/86916113/1769357/63158651/view_disc/?hs=falsetok=1crFS8Vsfg7l41 Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. -- --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies
Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Dear list, Pheromone traps are an interesting idea, but I have to wonder if they would be the best thing for every institution. Would they be an invitation for the pests to head inside instead of a tool to eliminate them? We are surrounded by hundreds of acres of woods and multiple bodies of water, so I have seen at least one of every possible pest showing up on the blunder traps. In the past we have captured everything from bugs and mice in the buildings to squirrels in the ceilings and snakes in the outbuildings. Some of them came in to get warm and the snakes were following the scent of the bugs. I have had great success in controlling, and in some cases completely eliminating ,the bugs and vermin by using the blunder traps, educating the staff on pest control management and by knowing what types of issues to look for.I respectfully disagree that trapping one mouse or bug means we have an infestation. It just means we have the traps in the right places so they are getting caught right as they enter the buildings. I follow up on the catches by identifying and filling in holes, cracks and crevices to prevent further ingress.So far, so good. At least no squirrels, snakes or mice and a very small number of bugs in the last two years!And no damage to the collections. While they wouldn’t work for us, I applaud your idea Colin. Regards, Cindi Verser *From:* ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] *On Behalf Of * Shae *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:20 PM *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net *Subject:* RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Dear list By way of introduction, I’ve been a docent with the Hunt Museum, Limerick, Ireland, for about 15 years. Since my retirement from my ‘real’ job as environmental scientist, the museum has coerced me into becoming its pest monitor. We use ‘blunder’ traps which I check every 2 weeks or so. Because of our proximity to the river Shannon, the traps often contain quite a few insects such as midges that emerge from the aquatic environment. I believe the use of pheromone attractants would make my job a lot easier because it would attract only those pests of concern. I’d like to hear more. Regards Shae Clancy *From:* ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.netad...@museumpests.net] *On Behalf Of *colin smith *Sent:* 03 January 2012 19:09 *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I’m not ‘re-inventing the wheel’ but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something in a similar price range which actually works! All the best Colin *From:* bugma...@aol.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:37 PM *To:* pestlist@museumpests.net *Subject:* Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Barbara - As far as the museum community goes, flat, cardboard glueboards, manufactured by Atlantic Paste Glue Co. of Brooklyn, NY or Bell Laboratories in Wisconsin and others are the best multi-functional insect traps on the market today. Even flying insects end up in these blunder traps. Not only can you determine the kinds of insects getting caught (indoor or outdoor), you can often determine from which
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I have been using traps with pheromone attractants for both webbing and case making moths and it would be useful to have one to attract both types of moths as well as black or varied carpet beetles. Perhaps the cost would be prohibitive, but if Colin is interested in pursuing it, I so go for it. Rick Richard L. Kerschner Director of Preservation and Conservation Shelburne Museum PO Box 10, Route 7 Shelburne, VT 05482 (802) 985-3348 x3361 rkersch...@shelburnemuseum.org From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of colin smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I'm not 're-inventing the wheel' but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something in a similar price range which actually works! All the best Colin From: bugma...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Barbara - As far as the museum community goes, flat, cardboard glueboards, manufactured by Atlantic Paste Glue Co. of Brooklyn, NY or Bell Laboratories in Wisconsin and others are the best multi-functional insect traps on the market today. Even flying insects end up in these blunder traps. Not only can you determine the kinds of insects getting caught (indoor or outdoor), you can often determine from which direction they're coming. As an added bonus, mice can be caught on the larger ones. And they're cheap! Let's not reinvent the wheel. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Appelbaum Himmelstein aa...@mindspring.com To: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:58 am Subject: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- The ICOM members list on LinkedIn is having a discussion about the possibility of developing a multi-functional insect trap. I suggested that they post on the pest list as well. If they don't, those of you who are interested should go on to the LinkedIn site to put in your two cents. Barbara Appelbaum This is the posting: Monitoring Dear all, I am considering the development of a multi functional insect trap / monitor which will trap the most common insects in one simple unit. Is there a need for something like this? http://www.linkedin.com/e/-vwzbz4-gwyxkeid-39/vaq/86916113/1769357/6315 8651/view_disc/?hs=falsetok=1crFS8Vsfg7l41 -- --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- -- To send an email to the list, send your
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Agreed!! Unfortunately the museum world is not the primary audience for pheremone developement. It would be great if there was a general pheremone for the large number of dermestid species out there! Gretchen From: Rick Kerschner [mailto:rkersch...@shelburnemuseum.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 05:07 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion I have been using traps with pheromone attractants for both webbing and case making moths and it would be useful to have one to attract both types of moths as well as black or varied carpet beetles. Perhaps the cost would be prohibitive, but if Colin is interested in pursuing it, I so go for it. Rick Richard L. Kerschner Director of Preservation and Conservation Shelburne Museum PO Box 10, Route 7 Shelburne, VT 05482 (802) 985-3348 x3361 rkersch...@shelburnemuseum.org From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of colin smith Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:09 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I’m not ‘re-inventing the wheel’ but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something in a similar price range which actually works! All the best Colin From: bugma...@aol.commailto:bugma...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Barbara - As far as the museum community goes, flat, cardboard glueboards, manufactured by Atlantic Paste Glue Co. of Brooklyn, NY or Bell Laboratories in Wisconsin and others are the best multi-functional insect traps on the market today. Even flying insects end up in these blunder traps. Not only can you determine the kinds of insects getting caught (indoor or outdoor), you can often determine from which direction they're coming. As an added bonus, mice can be caught on the larger ones. And they're cheap! Let's not reinvent the wheel. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Appelbaum Himmelstein aa...@mindspring.com To: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:58 am Subject: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- The ICOM members list on LinkedIn is having a discussion about the possibility of developing a multi-functional insect trap. I suggested that they post on the pest list as well. If they don't, those of you who are interested should go on to the LinkedIn site to put in your two cents. Barbara Appelbaum This is the posting: Monitoring Dear all, I am considering the development of a multi functional insect trap / monitor which will trap the most common insects in one simple unit. Is there a need for something like this?http://www.linkedin.com/e/-vwzbz4-gwyxkeid-39/vaq/86916113/1769357/63158651/view_disc/?hs=falsetok=1crFS8Vsfg7l41 [X] [X] [X] [X] [X] [X] [X] [X
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Regarding FAQ's on pheromone traps, I would refer folks to the tips on museumpests.net http://www.museumpests.net/monitoring.asp and to the very useful information on the insectslimited.com site http://www.insectslimited.com/help happy new year to all Emily From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Cindi Verser Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:48 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Dear list, Pheromone traps are an interesting idea, but I have to wonder if they would be the best thing for every institution. Would they be an invitation for the pests to head inside instead of a tool to eliminate them? We are surrounded by hundreds of acres of woods and multiple bodies of water, so I have seen at least one of every possible pest showing up on the blunder traps. In the past we have captured everything from bugs and mice in the buildings to squirrels in the ceilings and snakes in the outbuildings. Some of them came in to get warm and the snakes were following the scent of the bugs. I have had great success in controlling, and in some cases completely eliminating ,the bugs and vermin by using the blunder traps, educating the staff on pest control management and by knowing what types of issues to look for.I respectfully disagree that trapping one mouse or bug means we have an infestation. It just means we have the traps in the right places so they are getting caught right as they enter the buildings. I follow up on the catches by identifying and filling in holes, cracks and crevices to prevent further ingress.So far, so good. At least no squirrels, snakes or mice and a very small number of bugs in the last two years!And no damage to the collections. While they wouldn't work for us, I applaud your idea Colin. Regards, Cindi Verser From: ad...@museumpests.netmailto:ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.netmailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Shae Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:20 PM To: pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Dear list By way of introduction, I've been a docent with the Hunt Museum, Limerick, Ireland, for about 15 years. Since my retirement from my 'real' job as environmental scientist, the museum has coerced me into becoming its pest monitor. We use 'blunder' traps which I check every 2 weeks or so. Because of our proximity to the river Shannon, the traps often contain quite a few insects such as midges that emerge from the aquatic environment. I believe the use of pheromone attractants would make my job a lot easier because it would attract only those pests of concern. I'd like to hear more. Regards Shae Clancy From: ad...@museumpests.netmailto:ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of colin smith Sent: 03 January 2012 19:09 To: pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Sorry Tom, I have to disagree. What you describe is what you say it is; A blunder trap. There is no doubt that the advances is pheromone technology has enabled the development very effective and accurate monitors, capable of detecting very small or new infestations. Blunder traps simply demonstrate how severe an infestation has become. For insects and even mice to be caught this way indicates severe infestations. Not something of much use when you consider many museums following good IPM protocols regard one moth as a serious infestation! I'm not 're-inventing the wheel' but rather trying to develop something which may bring us into the 21st century. A trap with a number of pheromone lures which will attract insects even if there are very few around; at a fair and reasonable price. I can well understand museums using ineffective blunder traps, particularly when we all have to control costs. What I am trying to develop and offer is something
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This is a message from the Museumpests List.To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netTo unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email.--- Shae - LOL! Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Shae s...@eircom.net To: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 6:09 pm Subject: RE: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hi Tom Our outdoor lighting at the Hunt Museum is sodium vapour, so we’re being very good. Even so, our proximity to the Shannon river results in quite a high number of aquatic flies (mostly Dipterans) that clutter up our blunder traps but are harmless. Thus my interest in the pheromone traps, which would attract only real pests. However, I note Cindi’s concern that pheromone traps would actually attract pests, so I’m wondering how the proposed traps can avoid this. Meanwhile, getting back to lighting, we have a couple of items that might qualify for red. One is a sheela-na-gig who has lost her head and most of her legs, but she still has the important bits. http://www.irelands-sheelanagigs.org/archive/images/157.jpg The other is a self-portrait by Robert Fagan with his second wife, Maria. Apparently he was so devastated by the death of his first wife that he waited a whole six months to marry Maria. Shae From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of bugma...@aol.com Sent: 03 January 2012 21:04 To: pestlist@museumpests.net Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Shae - I might suggest changing your outdoor lighting to sodium vapor fixtures. Most outdoor lighting is mercury vapor or incandescents. The mercury vapor ones give off lots of UV light and attract midges and other flying and crawling insects to the building. This in turn leads to lots of spiders. Of course theleast attractivelight would be a red light, but we all know what that means. Tom Parker ts.com or l...@zaks.com -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: "unsubscribe" - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com --To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.NetTo unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put:"unsubscribe" - no quotes please.You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode.To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body:set mode digest pestlistAny problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Tom and Gretchen make some good points. When searching for specific infestations, pheromones are one of the best tools out there to focus our attention of where to inspect in large storage areas. It always comes down to a visual search, but pheromones can narrow the search to a much, much smaller area. Sex pheromones are only going to attract the male of the species, not a female with eggs or a reproductive pair. If breeding is going on in your storage or exhibit space, it was already there before the pheromones were introduced. Many of the topics at the recent 2011 A Pest Odyssey meeting in London showed how pheromones were used in museum settings to monitor and locate infestations of webbing clothes moth. The publication of these topics just came out in December of 2011. http://www.pestodyssey.org/publication.php If you are worried about drawing in native populations living around the museum, you should keep the traps 15 meters away from any door that gets left opened on a regular basis. (Although I will say that if you are in this situation, you would probably be better off spending your time and resources to find a way to exclude outdoor pests with better door sweeps, lighting, screens and other exclusion methods. Another good way is to keep the door closed!) If webbing clothes moth is the insect giving you the most problems, recent research has shown that you don't have to worry about drawing them in for outdoors if your museum is in a rural setting. Authors; Rudy Plarre and Bianca Krüger-Carstensen in their paper titled: “Outdoor trapping and genetical characterization of populations of webbing clothes moth Tineola bisselliella (Lepidoptera: Tineidae) in the broader area of Berlin” published in J. Ent. Acaral. Res. Ser. II,43(2):129-135, Sept. 2011 showed that outdoor trapping in rural areas did not catch any moths, while numbers outdoors in the city were relatively high. These moths are clearly following people! Research and testing of multiple pheromones being used in single traps has been going on for many years and it continues. It often depends on the species you are trying to attract as to how well it will work. If you are just starting a monitoring program from scratch, I always recommend to first monitor with sticky blunder traps, then identify what you find and finally locate the source with pheromones only if there is a reliable sex pheromone available for that specific insect. Pat Kelley Vice President Insects Limited, Inc. On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:28 PM, bugma...@aol.commailto:bugma...@aol.com bugma...@aol.commailto:bugma...@aol.com wrote: This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Group - Dave Mueller of Insects Limited can attest to the expensive difficulty of isolating specific insect pheromones for particular species. Unfortunately most insect species have one or more pheromones (let's say sex pheromones) specific to that particular species. There's no such thing as a general pheromone, which can be synthesized for a range of species. There might be a common bait attractant for, let's say, the more common cockroaches. Or some kind of food attractant for the dermestids. Perhaps that might be an avenue to research. By the way, it is not true pheromone traps will entice insects into a museum. Pheromone trap lures do not have extensive reach, i.e. they only cover a fairly small square footage of area. So unless you put a webbing clothes moth pheromone trap just inside your dock door and you have a pigeon infestation on the roof nearby, such a pheromone trap would not draw WCM's into your building. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen anders...@carnegiemnh.orgmailto:anders...@carnegiemnh.org To: 'pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net' pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Colin, Unfortunately, I do not have access to my linkedin account
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This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Pat - I might add - in urban situations, the WCM's are not following people; they're following pigeons. Nesting pigeons are a huge urban source of natural WCM infestations. To a lesser extent, certain dermestids are commonly found in smaller bird nests, especially English sparrows. They are also common in mud dauber and wasps with paper nests. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Pat Kelley p.kel...@insectslimited.com To: pestlist@museumpests.net pestlist@museumpests.net Cc: pestlist pestlist@museumpests.net Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 10:01 pm Subject: Re: [pestlist] LinkedIn discussion This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Tom and Gretchen make some good points. When searching for specific infestations, pheromones are one of the best tools out there to focus our attention of where to inspect in large storage areas. It always comes down to a visual search, but pheromones can narrow the search to a much, much smaller area. Sex pheromones are only going to attract the male of the species, not a female with eggs or a reproductive pair. If breeding is going on in your storage or exhibit space, it was already there before the pheromones were introduced. Many of the topics at the recent 2011 A Pest Odyssey meeting in London showed how pheromones were used in museum settings to monitor and locate infestations of webbing clothes moth. The publication of these topics just came out in December of 2011. http://www.pestodyssey.org/publication.php If you are worried about drawing in native populations living around the museum, you should keep the traps 15 meters away from any door that gets left opened on a regular basis. (Although I will say that if you are in this situation, you would probably be better off spending your time and resources to find a way to exclude outdoor pests with better door sweeps, lighting, screens and other exclusion methods. Another good way is to keep the door closed!) If webbing clothes moth is the insect giving you the most problems, recent research has shown that you don't have to worry about drawing them in for outdoors if your museum is in a rural setting. Authors; Rudy Plarre and Bianca Krüger-Carstensen in their paper titled: “Outdoor trapping and genetical characterization of populations of webbing clothes moth Tineola bisselliella (Lepidoptera: Tineidae) in the broader area of Berlin” published in J. Ent. Acaral. Res. Ser. II,43(2):129-135, Sept. 2011 showed that outdoor trapping in rural areas did not catch any moths, while numbers outdoors in the city were relatively high. These moths are clearly following people! Research and testing of multiple pheromones being used in single traps has been going on for many years and it continues. It often depends on the species you are trying to attract as to how well it will work. If you are just starting a monitoring program from scratch, I always recommend to first monitor with sticky blunder traps, then identify what you find and finally locate the source with pheromones only if there is a reliable sex pheromone available for that specific insect. Pat Kelley Vice President Insects Limited, Inc. On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:28 PM, bugma...@aol.com bugma...@aol.com wrote: This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Group - Dave Mueller of Insects Limited can attest to the expensive difficulty of isolating specific insect pheromones for particular species. Unfortunately most insect species have one or more pheromones (let's say sex pheromones) specific to that particular species. There's no such thing as a general pheromone, which can be synthesized for a range of species. There might be a common bait attractant for, let's say, the more common cockroaches. Or some kind of food attractant for the dermestids. Perhaps that might be an avenue to research. By the way, it is not true pheromone traps will entice insects into a museum. Pheromone trap lures do not have extensive reach, i.e. they only cover a fairly small square footage of area. So unless you put a webbing clothes moth pheromone trap just inside your dock door and you have a pigeon infestation on the roof nearby, such a pheromone trap would not draw WCM's into your building. Tom Parker -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gretchen anders...@carnegiemnh.org To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' pestlist
