Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qeustion pgadmin2 develop

2003-04-02 Thread Dave Page
Hi Frank,

It's rumoured that frank_lupo once said:
 Hi Dave

 There are many new functionalities for pgadmin2 that I would want to
 develop.
 I wonder if it has sense to make them or of it it is worth
 the pain.
 How much time will want that the pgadmin3 before to us
 usable?
 I see that the development and much assets.
 What I must make?

This is something that is of concern to me. pga2 is by no means useless or
at a dead-end, yet I want to concentrate on pga3 as it will allow us to go
cross platform, and handle Unicode - 2 very popular requests which are
seriously hindering pga2
pgAdmin 3 is a fair way from being usable, not least because I have so
little time at the moment. On the other hand, Andreas and Keith have both
been working hard. Realistically, I think it is likely to be 3 - 6 months
before pga3 has the features of pga2 v1.2.
So, I am happy to do a 1.6 release of pga2 seeing as you have put in so
much effort with useful new features. I will leave it up to you to decide
when you have done enough now - just let me know and I'll look at doing a
beta release.
In the long term, if you know C++, it would be great to have your input on
pga3.
What do you (and Mark, Jean-Michel, Keith, Andreas - and anyone else I
forgot) think?
Regards, Dave.


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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qeustion pgadmin2 develop

2003-04-02 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
Le Mercredi 2 Avril 2003 14:54, Dave Page a écrit :
 What do you (and Mark, Jean-Michel, Keith, Andreas - and anyone else I
 forgot) think?

Dear friends,

I don't have many things to say as I am not a contributor to pgAdmin3. 
pgAdmin3 seems to be the future... You are doing a great job, I whish to join 
sooner or later and participate. 

Cheers, Jean-Michel POURE


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Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Qeustion pgadmin2 develop

2003-04-02 Thread Andreas Pflug
frank_lupo wrote:

Hi Dave

There are many new functionalities for pgadmin2 that I would want to develop.
I wonder if it has sense to make them or of it it is worth the pain.
How much time will want that the pgadmin3 before to us usable?  
I see that the development and much assets.
What I must make?

 

Frank,

I've seen a lot of traffic in this list regarding pgadmin2 features over 
the last time, but I didn't look any further into it. My focus was 
towards a query tool (weakness in pgadmin2) and a good schema browser 
(cannot be made better, thus simply recoded). So I don't know what your 
extentions do. I believe they all are some kind of wizards, implemented 
as plugin.

I wonder if these plugins could be integrated into pgadmin3 too, using 
automation. This would immediately make all pga2 plugins available to 
pga3-w32 users. Later on, they could be recoded 1:1 in C++.
On the other hand, it's no real fun to use VB from C++, and as I think 
about it further the database connection probably will be a problem 
since pga2 uses ADO, while pga3 avoids this. Only recoded plugins 
possible, I'm afraid.

With regard to Dave's timeframe mentioned, I can say that for my needs 
pgadmin3 is sufficient. I believe there are many programmers that could 
benefit from using pgadmin3 as it is right now. At least, I released it 
to some people that used to use ISQL on MSSQL, and switch over to 
PostgreSQL right now.

Anyway, I might find some time to implement some/many/most/all of the 
missing property/create dialogs, bringing us some steps further. So 
maybe we reach pga2-1.2 much earlier.

Dave, maybe it makes sense to create a release plan stating which 
version of pgadmin3 should include which features. As you might have 
noticed, pgadmin3 VERSION states V 0.1.0 at the moment, indicating many 
things to come.

Regards,

Andreas

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[pgadmin-hackers] Qeustion pgadmin2 develop

2003-04-02 Thread frank_lupo
Hi Dave

There are many new functionalities for pgadmin2 that I would want to develop.
I wonder if it has sense to make them or of it it is worth the pain.
How much time will want that the pgadmin3 before to us usable?  
I see that the development and much assets.
What I must make?



Bye !!
Frank Lupo (Wolf) !!

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