Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 18:51, Darren Duncan wrote: > You have a typo `elif browser != 'chrom'` but otherwise I see no problems > with > the patch, thank you. -- Darren Duncan Well spotted. That was an intentional testing artefact (deliberating causing Chrome to not be recognised), but Akshay al

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Darren Duncan
You have a typo `elif browser != 'chrom'` but otherwise I see no problems with the patch, thank you. -- Darren Duncan On 2020-04-14 7:46 a.m., Dave Page wrote: Ooops. Thanks for catching that. Here it is. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:45 PM Neel Patel > wrote:

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Akshay Joshi
Thanks, patch applied. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 8:17 PM Dave Page wrote: > Ooops. Thanks for catching that. Here it is. > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:45 PM Neel Patel > wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> Looks like patch is missing in attachment. >> >> Thanks, >> Neel Patel >> >> >> On Tue 14 Apr, 2020,

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Dave Page
Ooops. Thanks for catching that. Here it is. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:45 PM Neel Patel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Looks like patch is missing in attachment. > > Thanks, > Neel Patel > > > On Tue 14 Apr, 2020, 6:53 PM Dave Page, wrote: > >> Here's an updated patch that gives a slightly different mes

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Neel Patel
Hi Dave, Looks like patch is missing in attachment. Thanks, Neel Patel On Tue 14 Apr, 2020, 6:53 PM Dave Page, wrote: > Here's an updated patch that gives a slightly different message if the > browser is unknown vs. unsupported/deprecated. As with the previous patch, > the check can be disabl

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-14 Thread Dave Page
Here's an updated patch that gives a slightly different message if the browser is unknown vs. unsupported/deprecated. As with the previous patch, the check can be disabled in the config. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:07 AM Khushboo Vashi < khushboo.va...@enterprisedb.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 9,

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-10 Thread Doug Reed
All, Just my two cents. I am the CTO of CirrusPoint Solutions. We have an Enterprise level Browser-based application that is used by very large corporations as a network management and reporting dashboard. These huge companies are almost always heavily Microsoft focused, and slow to upgrade. Ev

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-10 Thread Bill Evans
It is not doing people a favor to help them continue to use an unsupported browser that no longer receives security updates. Sent from my iPad On Apr 8, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Darren Duncan wrote: If its hard to know how many people are actually using Internet Explorer: You could make the next r

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-09 Thread Khushboo Vashi
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:57 PM Darren Duncan wrote: > The patch looks good as much as I understand it, but this raises an > important > question: > > How should one best handle minority browsers that may be completely modern > but > you may not specifically know about them? Such as the newer cr

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-09 Thread Darren Duncan
The patch looks good as much as I understand it, but this raises an important question: How should one best handle minority browsers that may be completely modern but you may not specifically know about them? Such as the newer crop of browsers that emphasize stronger privacy or may have fewer

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-09 Thread Dave Page
Hi On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:26 AM Darren Duncan wrote: > If its hard to know how many people are actually using Internet Explorer: > > You could make the next release of pgAdmin display a message occasionally > to > users of Internet Explorer saying that Internet Explorer will no longer be > of

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-08 Thread Darren Duncan
If its hard to know how many people are actually using Internet Explorer: You could make the next release of pgAdmin display a message occasionally to users of Internet Explorer saying that Internet Explorer will no longer be officially supported in a future version, and when that version comes

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:34 PM richard coleman wrote: > Dave, > > Seeing that IE isn't standards compliant and not only is not being further > developed, but Microsoft is actively discouraging its use, it is probably > time to drop support for it. > > I would caution *against* using browser analy

RE: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Benson
From: Jack Royal-Gordon Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 11:45 AM To: Dave Caughey Cc: Dave Page ; pgAdmin Support ; pgadmin-hackers Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer I’ve had a similar response from not supporting IE since about 2016. A couple users asked about it

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread Jack Royal-Gordon
I’ve had a similar response from not supporting IE since about 2016. A couple users asked about it and had no problem when I told them we didn’t support it. Mostly, they switched to Chrome. 👍👍 > On Apr 7, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave Caughey wrote: > > Check the analytics... I think you'll find dro

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread richard coleman
Dave, Seeing that IE isn't standards compliant and not only is not being further developed, but Microsoft is actively discouraging its use, it is probably time to drop support for it. I would caution *against* using browser analytics as any sort of proxy for use. Since pgAdmin 4 lacks a UI of it

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dave Caughey wrote: > Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In > my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about > 1% of my users. > Good point - 1.9% of the visitors to the website were on IE this week. 1

Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread Dave Caughey
Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about 1% of my users. So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing me from fully adopting ES6), and there was not a single complaint from my users.

Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

2020-04-07 Thread Dave Page
All, Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11 was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable ne