[ADMIN] Creating users in a second postgres server.

2003-11-05 Thread skennedy
Hi.. I have a Solaris 2.8 machine on which I have Postgresql 7.2.4 postgres listening on port 5432. This works fine. I have a user who needs a newer version and has asked specifically for 7.3. I have compiled and installed a 7.3.4 successfully, using ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/p_sql734

Re: [ADMIN] Forcing pg_dump NOT to use INSERT...

2003-11-05 Thread Stef
= This is extremely hard to believe. I can see no way that pg_dump will = do that unless you explicitly ask for it (-d or -D switch, or one of the = long variants of same). I know of a lot of people that confuses the -d switch as an option indicating the database name to follow. It is also

Re: [ADMIN] 7.3.5

2003-11-05 Thread Donald Fraser
- Original Message - Will there be a 7.3.5 version released, containing relevant patches, before the release of the 7.4 version? That seems unlikely. It seems likely that there will be such a release, but most likely it will be after the 7.4 release. Yes. I'd expect we'd wait

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
Hi all I was asking for help, a week ago. Performace tests took mi some more time because of other things that I had to do. The problem was: tune PostgreSQL to work with 10.000 databases. Tom Lane (thanks) suggested solution: one database and 10.000 schemas. From now I will write switch database

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Jeff
On 05 Nov 2003 14:33:33 +0100 Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During this test I was changing some parameters in postgres, and send kill -HUP ( pg_ctl reload ). I still don't know what settings will be best for me, except shared buffers, and some kernel and shell settings. as

Re: [ADMIN] Creating users in a second postgres server.

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
skennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: however, when I try and create a user I get bash-2.03$ createuser idip_734 Shall the new user be allowed to create databases? (y/n) y Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n psql: FATAL 1: user p_sql734 does not exist Looks to me

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 14:48, Jeff pisze: On 05 Nov 2003 14:33:33 +0100 Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During this test I was changing some parameters in postgres, and send kill -HUP ( pg_ctl reload ). I still don't know what settings will be best for me, except

Re: [ADMIN] Creating users in a second postgres server.

2003-11-05 Thread skennedy
Thanks Tom, PGPORT was unset in the environment. I set it to 5433 and things started to work. If I configured the server to user 5433 before building (using --with-pg_port=5433 in configure) shouldn't the clients, etc automatically look for port 5433? The executables ARE the ones I compiled

Re: [ADMIN] 7.3.5

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Donald Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fix I am looking for in 7.3.5, which is in the 7.4 branch, is for the regproc-reverse-conversion problem (the error comes when the planner tries to convert that string back to OID form). IIRC there is no solution to that without moving to 7.4 --- the

Re: [ADMIN] PGSQL Mailing List Reply-To field

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:40:21PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 15:27:23 +, Rob Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep doing this because I keep forgetting the Reply-To field isn't set to the pgsql- mailing list. Its not. You should probably just get

Re: [ADMIN] Creating users in a second postgres server.

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
skennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I configured the server to user 5433 before building (using --with-pg_port=5433 in configure) shouldn't the clients, etc automatically look for port 5433? They should, and they do for me (I routinely run several different versions of PG on different ports

Re: [ADMIN] data format problem for upgrede from 7.1-7.3

2003-11-05 Thread Oli Sennhauser
Hello admins Tome Lane once wrote, if I remember well, that the biggest PostgreSQL DB he knows is about 4 TB!!! In Oracle we normaly say, it is not possible (= usefull) to exp/imp more than let's say 20 to 50 GB of data. This is more ore less the same we do with pg_dumpall??? Oracle was not

[ADMIN] directing stdout to log file

2003-11-05 Thread Kris Kiger
How do I direct logging output from stdout to a file? I'm using PG 7.3.4. Thanks for the help! ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [ADMIN] Application monitoring

2003-11-05 Thread Oli Sennhauser
Hi Steve In my old company we had some shell skripts, monitoring all the oracle stuff. I plan to transfer this to pg later. It was easy but verry stable concept: 2 Servers where watching each other with the same functionality: the master was checking all databases for availablity, free space

Re: [ADMIN] Creating users in a second postgres server.

2003-11-05 Thread Oli Sennhauser
Hello Stephen I am actually working on a concept for this problems: Many clusters with different versions on a server: It consists off 3 docs and some skripts: * Optimal Flexible Architecture (OFA) for PostgreSQL * Flexible Environment for PostgreSQL in a Multi-Cluster-Multi-Database (MCMD)

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 16:14:59 +0100, Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One database with 3.000 schemas works better than 3.000 databases, but there is REAL, BIG problem, and I won't be able to use this solution: Every query, like \d table \di takes veeery long time. Users

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:48:52AM -0500, Jeff wrote: as far as I know, -HUP won't make things like shared buffer changes take. you need a full restart of PG. It definitely will not. Anything that can only be set on startup actually means startup. but your numbers are different... I guess

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 17:24, Andrew Sullivan pisze: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:48:52AM -0500, Jeff wrote: as far as I know, -HUP won't make things like shared buffer changes take. you need a full restart of PG. It definitely will not. Anything that can only be set on startup

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Each client was doing: 10 x connect,select * from table[rand(1-4)] where number=[rand(1-1000)],disconnect--(fetch one row) Seems like this is testing the cost of connect and disconnect to the exclusion of nearly all else. PG is not designed to

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 17:18, Bruno Wolff III pisze: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 16:14:59 +0100, Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One database with 3.000 schemas works better than 3.000 databases, but there is REAL, BIG problem, and I won't be able to use this solution:

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Jeff
On 05 Nov 2003 19:01:38 +0100 Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and it works better, but no revelation, when I do \d schemaname.table it's better. I've to still wait about 10-30 sec. and now it's only 100 clients connected. :( So it only goes slow with hundred(s) of clients

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 18:59, Tom Lane pisze: Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Each client was doing: 10 x connect,select * from table[rand(1-4)] where number=[rand(1-1000)],disconnect--(fetch one row) Seems like this is testing the cost of connect and disconnect

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 19:23, Jeff pisze: On 05 Nov 2003 19:01:38 +0100 Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and it works better, but no revelation, when I do \d schemaname.table it's better. I've to still wait about 10-30 sec. and now it's only 100 clients connected. :(

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 19:34, Tom Lane pisze: Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But did you do that under some database load ? eg. 100 clients connected, like in my example ? When I do these queries \d without any clients connected and after ANALYZE it's fast, but only

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe reconnect is to often, but how to explain that reular queries like select * from table1 ale much faster than \d's ? ( my post to Jeff ) [ further experimentation... ] Ah-hah, I see the problem in 7.3, though not in 7.4 which is what I was

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread Marek Florianczyk
W licie z ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 19:52, Tom Lane pisze: Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe reconnect is to often, but how to explain that reular queries like select * from table1 ale much faster than \d's ? ( my post to Jeff ) [ further experimentation... ] Ah-hah, I see

[ADMIN] why can't select for update be used with join

2003-11-05 Thread Kris Kiger
I'm trying to do a query: select ta.x from ta join tb using (y) where z = 'somevalue' FOR UPDATE Why can't this be executed without error in 7.3.x? It worked just fine in 7.2.x. Thanks for the input ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain

Re: [ADMIN] why can't select for update be used with join

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Kiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to do a query: select ta.x from ta join tb using (y) where z = 'somevalue' FOR UPDATE Why can't this be executed without error in 7.3.x? It worked just fine in 7.2.x. Thanks for the input Try saying FOR UPDATE OF ta, tb. I agree there's

Re: [ADMIN] performance problem - 10.000 databases

2003-11-05 Thread scott.marlowe
On 5 Nov 2003, Marek Florianczyk wrote: W li¶cie z ¶ro, 05-11-2003, godz. 19:52, Tom Lane pisze: Marek Florianczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe reconnect is to often, but how to explain that reular queries like select * from table1 ale much faster than \d's ? ( my post to Jeff )

Re: [ADMIN] Microsoft access verses postgresql

2003-11-05 Thread Juan Miguel
kbd wrote: I have many years experience with several database products: Foxbase, FoxPro, MS SQL, Access, Postgresql, AS400 DB2. Compared to any of the above Access is a toy. Case in point; in my office we have a product which is multi-user based upon Access. When the users, there are only

[ADMIN] Postgres Web Page

2003-11-05 Thread Juan Miguel
What happends with http://www.postgresql.org ? When I try to connect to this URL, the download stops. The only avalaible version of Postgres website that I can find is http://www.postgresql.com, that is a comercial site. Thanks. ---(end of

Re: [ADMIN] Microsoft access verses postgresql

2003-11-05 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Juan Miguel wrote: Therefore, do you know a better Open Source DBMS than Access, that is easy to install and integrate with your applications ? What is your target environment? We sell a commercial program (http://www.canit.ca) that uses PostgreSQL internally. For our Red

Re: [ADMIN] data format problem for upgrede from 7.1-7.3

2003-11-05 Thread Oli Sennhauser
Thanks Jonathan and Kaolin fire Technicaly it is clear to me, how it works. But on a SUN E1 we had hours to exp/imp 20-30 GB of data. And I do not think, that we were able to exp/imp 1TB. If somebody is telling me now, I have to do this several times a year (how can I sell this to a

Re: [ADMIN] Postgres Web Page

2003-11-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
works fine for me from here, and they are all on the same set of servers, so it isn't network related ... browser? On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Juan Miguel wrote: What happends with http://www.postgresql.org ? When I try to connect to this URL, the download stops. The only avalaible version of

Re: [ADMIN] Microsoft access verses postgresql

2003-11-05 Thread Geoffrey
Juan Miguel wrote: kbd wrote: I have many years experience with several database products: Foxbase, FoxPro, MS SQL, Access, Postgresql, AS400 DB2. Compared to any of the above Access is a toy. Case in point; in my office we have a product which is multi-user based upon Access. When the users,

[ADMIN] i dont wamt more mails

2003-11-05 Thread lekkala venkata praveen
hai admin, I've been recieving a lot of emails about PostgreSql administration, and I don't want reciving it anymore, remove my account from your databases records, please. praveen _ Download ringtones, logos and picture

Re: [ADMIN] data format problem for upgrede from 7.1-7.3

2003-11-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 00:27:03 +0100, Oli Sennhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If somebody is telling me now, I have to do this several times a year (how can I sell this to a customer???)... It is not a problem handling a micky-mouse database. dump/load 100 GB I would gess it takes me

[ADMIN] Process Files

2003-11-05 Thread Rudi Starcevic
Hi, I'm moving a Postgresql database onto a co-located server - a Linux Virtual Server. Today I got some error's in my logs: ERROR: _mdfd_getrelnfd: cannot open relation virtualusertable: Cannot allocate memory If I reboot it goes away but has been reappearing. I'd like to try limiting the