Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Greg Smith
Anj Adu wrote: We do not archive the WALs. We use application-level replication to achieve redundancy. WAL archiving was difficult to support with the earlier hardware we had ( 6x300G 10K disks Dell 2850) given the volumes we were dealing with. The RAID card should be from the same manufacturer (

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Anj Adu wrote: > Thanks Greg > > We do not archive the WALs. We use application-level replication to > achieve redundancy. WAL archiving was difficult to support with the > earlier hardware we had ( 6x300G 10K disks Dell 2850) given the > volumes we were dealing w

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Anj Adu
Thanks Greg We do not archive the WALs. We use application-level replication to achieve redundancy. WAL archiving was difficult to support with the earlier hardware we had ( 6x300G 10K disks Dell 2850) given the volumes we were dealing with. The RAID card should be from the same manufacturer (LSI

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Greg Smith
Anj Adu wrote: I am faced with a hardware choice for a postgres data warehouse (extremely high volume inserts..over 200 million records a day) That's an average of 2314 per second, which certainly isn't easy to pull off. You suggested you're already running this app. Do you have any idea h

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Anj Adu wrote: > Thank you all for the comments > > We have not benchmarked the new hardware yet..however..we do have > existing hardware that deals with very high volumes and handle pretty > well (Dell 2950 Intel 5430 8-cores with 6x450G 15K disks and 32G RAM - >

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Anj Adu
Thank you all for the comments We have not benchmarked the new hardware yet..however..we do have existing hardware that deals with very high volumes and handle pretty well (Dell 2950 Intel 5430 8-cores with 6x450G 15K disks and 32G RAM - Perc 6iRaid controllers) with minimal IO wait . there are us

Re: [ADMIN] Error in PostgreSQL log

2010-04-28 Thread Tom Lane
"Campbell, Lance" writes: > PostgreSQL: 8.4.3 > I found the following in my error log: > LOG: SSL error: unsafe legacy renegotiation disabled > Anyone have a clue what this means? It means your SSL library is maintained by someone with a clue ;-). It's dealing with CVE-2009-3555 without simply b

[ADMIN] Error in PostgreSQL log

2010-04-28 Thread Campbell, Lance
PostgreSQL: 8.4.3 I found the following in my error log: LOG: SSL error: unsafe legacy renegotiation disabled Anyone have a clue what this means? Thanks, Lance Campbell Software Architect/DBA/Project Manager Web Services at Public Affairs 217-333-0382

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Iñigo Martinez Lasala
Supposing a 50% performance increase disk-by-disk with 15.000rpm vs 10.000rpm you would get better performance (100%) by doubling number of disks versus using 15K rpm disk (50%). However, you have to check other parameters, for example, if your RAID controller can deal with such a high bandwidth or

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Evan Rempel
Our experience shows that the 2.5 inch 10K disks have about the same I/O rate as the 3.5 inch 15K disks. Ideal would be 15K 2.5 inch. To answer you bigger question, it depends on how many threads are running to perform the inserts. If you have lots (2-3 times as many threads as disks) then your I

Re: [ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Anj Adu
I forgot to add that the 24 10K disks are 2.5 inch and the 12 15K disks are 3.5 inch On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Anj Adu wrote: > I am faced with a  hardware choice for a postgres data warehouse > (extremely high volume inserts..over 200 million records a day) with a > total storage of eith

[ADMIN] more 10K disks or less 15K disks

2010-04-28 Thread Anj Adu
I am faced with a hardware choice for a postgres data warehouse (extremely high volume inserts..over 200 million records a day) with a total storage of either 12 x 600G disks (15K) (the new Dell Poweredge C server) or 24 x 600G (10K disks) ALL direct attached storage. I am leaning toward th