Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Not sure if this will make it as I'm not subscribed. If it does, please CC me on any replies. Are you really comparing equal systems? 8gbit Fibre Channel means a single Fibre Channel shared by 42 disks, whereas 3GBit DAS SAS means 42 3gbit channels running in parallel. Saw this on osdir

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote: What really matters here is if the 8gb SAN is as fast as or faster than the DAS setup. For most people measuring the speed of the interface is a lot like the famous Tom Lane quote about benchmarking jet fighters versus airliners by measuring the

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Tena Sakai tsa...@gallo.ucsf.edu wrote: Hi, I have been reading this thread and I got the idea that SANs to avoid, but would somebody please give a bit of Comparison/perspective on NAS? same as for SAN: measure it on your real workload and compare different products w/ similar stability

[ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread fel
Hi all, I am working on upgrading my hardware and wondering how Postgres could work with SAN, NAS and DAS . Can someone advise me or share experiences ? Regards, Fel

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:03:44 +0200, fel fell...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am working on upgrading my hardware and wondering how Postgres could work with SAN, NAS and DAS . Can someone advise me or share experiences ? Unless you want to spend *A LOT* of money, DAS is the way to go. You

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Scott Whitney
While I agree with JD, we ended up using a fiber solution through a fiber switch with multi-path drivers (IBM DS4300). It did end up costing a few thousand dollars with all of the drives, but the performance made it worth it. The big thing you want to remember to consider with any storage

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:03:44 +0200, fel fell...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am working on upgrading my hardware and wondering how Postgres could work with SAN, NAS and DAS . Can someone advise me or share

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Jesper Krogh
On 2010-09-07 20:42, Scott Marlowe wrote: With the right supplier, you can plug in literally 100 hard drives to a regular server with DAS and for a fraction of the cost of a SAN. Ok, recently I have compared prices a NexSan SASBeast with 42 15K SAS drives with a HP MDS600 with 15K SAS

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Craig James
On 9/7/10 12:06 PM, Jesper Krogh wrote: On 2010-09-07 20:42, Scott Marlowe wrote: With the right supplier, you can plug in literally 100 hard drives to a regular server with DAS and for a fraction of the cost of a SAN. Ok, recently I have compared prices a NexSan SASBeast with 42 15K SAS

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Craig James craig_ja...@emolecules.com wrote: On 9/7/10 12:06 PM, Jesper Krogh wrote: On 2010-09-07 20:42, Scott Marlowe wrote: With the right supplier, you can plug in literally 100 hard drives to a regular server with DAS and for a fraction of the cost of a

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Tena Sakai
Hi everybody, I have been reading this thread and I got the idea that SANs to avoid, but would somebody please give a bit of Comparison/perspective on NAS? Regards, Tena Sakai tsa...@gallo.ucsf.edu On 9/7/10 12:36 PM, Craig James craig_ja...@emolecules.com wrote: On 9/7/10 12:06 PM, Jesper

Re: [ADMIN] [NOVICE] - SAN/NAS/DAS - Need advises

2010-09-07 Thread Jesper Krogh
On 2010-09-07 22:47, Scott Marlowe wrote: Ok, recently I have compared prices a NexSan SASBeast with 42 15K SAS drives with a HP MDS600 with 15K SAS drives. The first is 8gbit Fibre Channel, the last is 3Gbit DAS SAS. The fibre channel version is about 20% more expensive pr TB. So of course