Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-05 Thread Rodrigo De Leon
On 7/5/06, Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or, just hire a crusty old perl programmer and have him write them all as one line, super compact perl scripts and use plperl. ;^) ROFLMAO! The plpgsql_o idea sounds cool, but it seems I'm the only one that presented such a need :( Maybe no

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wednesday > Or, just hire a crusty old perl programmer and have him write them all > as one line, super compact perl scripts and use plperl. I thought we were actually trying to *help* people on this list... ;) Joshua D. Drake > > ;^) -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc.

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-05 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 20:51, Tom Lane wrote: > "Rodrigo De Leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would be quite a bonus to have equivalent functionality in PG. > > Write your functions in C and give them precompiled libraries. > Yes, also theoretically decompilable, but plenty hard ... plus > th

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-05 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/4/06, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although everything you say is accurate Jonah, it will cost more money to defang obfuscated code then non obfuscated code. Thus there is a financial detterant to stealing. My bet is that it would take < 1 day to turn PL/pgSQL into a code gen

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:51, Tom Lane wrote: > "Rodrigo De Leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would be quite a bonus to have equivalent functionality in PG. > > Write your functions in C and give them precompiled libraries. > Yes, also theoretically decompilable, but plenty hard ... plus > t

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Tom Lane
"Rodrigo De Leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would be quite a bonus to have equivalent functionality in PG. Write your functions in C and give them precompiled libraries. Yes, also theoretically decompilable, but plenty hard ... plus they have to come back to you for an update on every major

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Rodrigo De Leon
On 7/4/06, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have more then once been in an environment where, "Oh we just "sampled" the function from *xyz*". That's precisely the reason I was asking, because my colleagues and I had that same experience with Oracle packages when doing consulting wor

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 15:53, Jonah H. Harris wrote: > On 7/4/06, Jonah H. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/4/06, Aaron Bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't see how PostgreSQL being open source will stop obfuscation of > > > the PL/pgSQL from being possible. > > Oh, and I forgot

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/4/06, Jonah H. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/4/06, Aaron Bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see how PostgreSQL being open source will stop obfuscation of the > PL/pgSQL from being possible. Oh, and I forgot to add, obfuscation is lame and doesn't really work. Anyone with a

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/4/06, Aaron Bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't see how PostgreSQL being open source will stop obfuscation of the PL/pgSQL from being possible. You're missing the whole point. Oracle doesn't obfuscate the code, they compile it into bytecode and then spit the bytecode back out as a tex

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Aaron Bono
On 7/4/06, Jonah H. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/4/06, Rodrigo De Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I was wondering if there's a mechanism (or if not, a workaround) to> obfuscate server code (PL/PgSQL), a la Oracle's PL/SQL Wrap Utility: No, there is no such utility for PostgreSQL.  And, e

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Rodrigo De Leon
On 7/4/06, Jonah H. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, there is no such utility for PostgreSQL. And, even if there were, it wouldn't actually stop someone from reverse engineering it quite easily as the source code to PL/pgSQL itself is readily available. I see. Thanks for the reply, both t

Re: [ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/4/06, Rodrigo De Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering if there's a mechanism (or if not, a workaround) to obfuscate server code (PL/PgSQL), a la Oracle's PL/SQL Wrap Utility: No, there is no such utility for PostgreSQL. And, even if there were, it wouldn't actually stop someone

[ADMIN] Wrap (obfuscate) code

2006-07-04 Thread Rodrigo De Leon
Good afternoon. I'm not sure if this is the correct list, so please forgive me if it's not. I was wondering if there's a mechanism (or if not, a workaround) to obfuscate server code (PL/PgSQL), a la Oracle's PL/SQL Wrap Utility: http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/appdev.920/a9662