Re: [ADMIN] file in posgres

2005-12-19 Thread Jim Nasby
I think it's in pgFoundry, though there may be some stuff in contrib as well. -Original Message- From: Alain Rodriguez Arias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:10 PM To: Jim Nasby Subject: Re: [ADMIN] file in posgres Naybe you missunderstood me, i need to expo

Re: [ADMIN] postgresql-R

2006-03-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Mar 7, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Louis Gonzales wrote: Based on: Postgres based Replication Projects PG Replication Postgres-R: Dr. Kemme's Site, Paper, Publications, Replication Work, The Horus Project and Emsemble DRAGON: Database Replication based on Group Communication The Slony-1 Project PGC

Re: [ADMIN] 7.4 --> 8.0/8.1 upgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Jim Nasby
On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 19:47, sh test wrote: Hello admins! i need to collect as much information pro/cons on a possible upgrade from 7.4 ---> 8.0/8.1 version Aside from getting our users vote on this, I wanted to ask you first in order to col

Re: [ADMIN] export of schema only

2006-03-30 Thread Jim Nasby
Can you provide exact error messages here? You're not giving us a lot of detail to go on... On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Sriram Dandapani wrote: Hi This is the scenario: Export schema only On a different postgres box, drop the existing database, recreate the database and run psql wit

Re: [ADMIN] auto vacuuming

2006-04-03 Thread Jim Nasby
On Mar 31, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote: I think the closest approximation of disabling autovacuum on a per database basis is to connect to the database in question and perform: update pg_autovacuum set enabled = 'false'; This will prevent autovacuum from vacuuming or analyzi

Re: [ADMIN] auto vacuuming

2006-04-03 Thread Jim Nasby
On Mar 31, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote: "Matthew T. O'Connor" writes: I think the closest approximation of disabling autovacuum on a per database basis is to connect to the database in question and perform: update pg_autovacuum set enabled = 'false'; Not really gonna help unless you ins

Re: [ADMIN] pg_stat_activity showing non-existent processes

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Nasby
On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Tom Lane wrote: "Kevin Grittner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is there any way to tweak this in favor of more accurate information, even if has a performance cost? We're finding that during normal operations we're not seeing most connections added to the pg_stat_act

Re: [ADMIN] pg_stat_activity showing non-existent processes

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Nasby
On Apr 4, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Tom Lane wrote: "Kevin Grittner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is probably related to something we've been seeing in the PostgreSQL logs on the Windows servers: [2006-04-03 08:28:25.990 ] 2072 FATAL: could not read from statistics collector pipe: No error [20

Re: [ADMIN] Error Handling with COPY command

2006-04-06 Thread Jim Nasby
In the meantime, there is a replacement for COPY on pgFoundry. I think it's called pgloader... On Apr 5, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Tomeh, Husam wrote: I think that's still on the TODO list. A very useful feature that I've looking forward to as well. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html

Re: [ADMIN] DDL commands don't handle OID wrap

2006-04-17 Thread Jim Nasby
On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:46 PM, Tom Lane wrote: "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Haven't seen this in previous discussions of OID wrap in the archives. The issue is that DDL statements don't make any attempt to skip past used ranges of OIDs. duplicate key violates unique constraint "pg

Re: [ADMIN] Problem with SELECT FOR UPDATE NOWAIT

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Nasby
Please include the list in your reply so others can help. I'm also adding -interfaces. You're still not showing exact errors, but I suspect this might be a JDBC issue. Here's what I get: Session 1: decibel=# begin; BEGIN decibel=# select * from i where i=1 for update nowait; i --- 1 (1 row)

Re: [ADMIN] Regarding installation of postgresql8.1 on windows XP

2006-04-24 Thread Jim Nasby
06 11:12 PM To: Jim Nasby Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Regarding installation of postgresql8.1 on windows XP Hi Thanks revert back ,I installed it, some what I worked on PgAdmin and psql to postgres But here my problem is how to start "startservice." Thanks and Regards Srinivas.D -O

Re: [ADMIN] Backing up large databases

2006-04-29 Thread Jim Nasby
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Andy Shellam wrote: My future plan for when my database grows larger, is with the use of WAL logging – have a base backup taken on a Sunday morning (our quietest time), ship this to the hot-standby once a week, and start it off in a recovery mode (using my rolli

Re: [ADMIN] WAL recovery question - 0000001.history

2006-04-29 Thread Jim Nasby
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Andy Shellam wrote: I've developed and am now testing a new "rolling-WAL" script, and have noticed something a little peculiar with Postgres 8.1.3. Note I intend to make this script public once testing has been carried out - if anyone is interested in testing

Re: [ADMIN] Tale partitioning

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Nasby
Please include the mailing list in your replies so others can provide input. > From: Sriram Dandapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Most of our reports use a order by limit X...The rowcount in > some tables > are > 200 million. (and the table size is about 50-100gb) > > Does the fact that constrai

Re: [ADMIN] Restore of pg_dump taking a long time...

2006-05-25 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 24, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Todd A. Cook wrote: Tom Lane wrote: "Todd A. Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have found that increasing maintenance_work_mem can decrease index build speed on large tables: You should probably re-measure when 8.2 comes out; we've fixed a number of performanc

Re: [ADMIN] How to mesure transaction rate in Postgres

2006-05-25 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 25, 2006, at 1:33 AM, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote: On 5/23/06, Meyer Marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been asked for the transaction rate we have on an installed Postgres server. Where and how can I get this information. I could not find anything in the documentation. I have r

Re: [ADMIN] A quick question on CONTRIB package

2006-06-02 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 31, 2006, at 7:56 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: Hi, I need to connect to remote databases using Dblink. Our existing version is 7.2.1 on Windows and please point me the location of this package where I can download from and the installation procedure. I don't find any such package e

Re: [ADMIN] Dump size bigger than pgdata size?

2006-06-22 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 21, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: This could be avoided by using COPY BINARY format, but I don't see any very nice way to do that in the context of pg_dump --- it needs to intermix COPY data with SQL commands ... Would the tar or custom format allow for this? IIRC, at least tar pu

Re: [ADMIN] LOG: statistics buffer is full

2006-06-22 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 22, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Jérôme BENOIS wrote: We use 7.4.6 version and now we have a bad performance on our You should upgrade to the latest 7.4 version. production server. We detected several strange messages in a log file : LOG: statistics buffer is full LOG: statis

Re: [ADMIN] strange fsm issues

2006-06-22 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Jeff Frost wrote: So, I set it to 3366499. I came up with this number by: select sum(relpages) from pg_class where relkind in ('r','t'); and adding that up for all the DBs (there is just the one plus postgres and template1 and now I get th efollowing, so it appears

Re: [ADMIN] Dump size bigger than pgdata size?

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:39 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Jim Nasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Jun 21, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: This could be avoided by using COPY BINARY format, but I don't see any very nice way to do that in the context of pg_dump --- it needs to intermix COP

Re: [ADMIN] strange fsm issues

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Jeff Frost wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Jeff Frost wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Jim Nasby wrote: CPU 0.00s/0.00u sec elapsed 0.00 sec. INFO: free space map contains 3339998 pages in 125 relations DETAIL: A total of 3341600 page slots are in use (including

Re: [ADMIN] 8.x Vaccum/Autovacuum settings

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Chris Hoover wrote: What are most of you setting your vacuum and autovacuum parameters to for your 8.x databases. I just turned on autovacuuming on one of my db servers and went with a very conservative vacuum_cost_delay of 200 and vacuum_cost_limit of 50. I am

Re: [ADMIN] archive_log command...

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: Mario Splivalo wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 21:30 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Mario Splivalo wrote: Can I force archiving of the WAL files using CHECKPOINT statement? My checkpoing_segments is set to 32, but still archive_command is beeing

Re: [ADMIN] Hiding table structure information

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Aaron Bono wrote: Would there be a way to set up the 2 databases - one with the tables and data and the other that connects to the first with views into the second database? google: postgresql dblink Actually I am interested because I will soon need to set up a

Re: [ADMIN] Using GUIDs

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Dennis Wagner wrote: I'm currently thinking about using GUIDs as primary keys. Look on pgFoundry.org; I'm pretty sure there's some kind of UUID type there. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pervasive Software http://pervasive

Re: [ADMIN] Jobs

2006-06-27 Thread Jim Nasby
On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:37 AM, Jorge D wrote: I'm trying to use jobs. I installed the service as manual saids but i saw no node on view. Can anybody tell me what i'm doing wrong. Assuming that you're using the job agent that comes with pgAdmin, you'll have better luck asking on their mailing

Re: [ADMIN] Disk usage in postgresql 8.1.4

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 6, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Geoff Parker wrote: Hi, I've got a database with about 155GB of binary data, however when I run the unix utility df, it reports only 60GB of disk space is being used. I've extracted random samples of data from the database, and it all appears correct, so I pres

Re: [ADMIN] Getting rid of postgres output

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
First, you need to upgrade to 8.1.4. You can redirect STDOUT to /dev/null. Error messages will be sent to STDERR. On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:00 AM, Nicola Mauri wrote: I scheduled a dump between two databases, via network: pg_dump --clean -U postgres mydb | psql -q -h remote_host -d mydb - U po

Re: [ADMIN] Strange UTF8 issue with pg_dump/pg_restore

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 7, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Benjamin Krajmalnik wrote: I have a database whose records are inserted via ODBC. I turned on logging, and the client is explicitly setting the client encoding to UTF. Rows are inserted into the tables. When I do a pg_dump, I do not get any errors. When I try t

Re: [ADMIN] What's using all my RAM?

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: Postgres v7.4.2 (upgrade underway) If you can get a clean backup, look into at least 8.0. There were huge improvements from 7.4 to 8.0. 8.1 is even more impressive. (says the DBA who's still running 7.4.13 on all his boxes... :) Most im

Re: [ADMIN] pg_dump problem

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Srinivas Iyyer wrote: I have two databases in my system. In firstdb i am having the following problem: firstdb=# \d targets ERROR: could not access status of transaction 362 DETAIL: could not open file "/var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_clog/": No such file or director

Re: [ADMIN] disk usage spike

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 7, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Geoff Parker wrote: Unfortunately I didn't notice the problem until I saw the logs today, and by then it was back tor normal. Is it safe to assume this is abnormal behaviour? Probably, unless you had a transaction running for 2 days that was using space in pgsq

Re: [ADMIN] Database,TempDB,index,Transaction log sizes

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 8, 2006, at 3:10 AM, Sharma;G.S. wrote: Dear all, I have a database of 53GB , i want to know break up of these 53GB . Is there any command or way through which i can find out that how much space is used by database,Transaction Log,TempDB, tables indexes etc. The sysviews project on h

Re: [ADMIN] Start-up script for Solaris

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Aug 8, 2006, at 7:19 AM, mcelroy, tim wrote: Thank you Thomas. I've tried it but get a few syntax errors. I have postgresql 8.0.1 installed and have moved it to /var/lib/pgsql to mimic Linux so I need to edit the file some more. I'll let you know how it works. You need to upgrade. You'

Re: [ADMIN] File system backup question

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Nasby
If you must use inserts, you'll get much better performance if you wrap the restore in a transaction. I think someone came up with a clever way to do this on the command line, or you could edit the dump file. Note that if you do this and there's any errors, the restore will fail. Also, gr

Re: [ADMIN] Strange UTF8 issue with pg_dump/pg_restore

2006-08-09 Thread Jim Nasby
format).   No, it's a unix utility. You'd have to dump in plain text output, and then run that through iconv. There's info about this in the 8.1 release notes. From: Jim Nasby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tue 8/8/2006 10:48 AMTo: Benjamin KrajmalnikCc: pgsql

Re: [ADMIN] Restoring database question, part 2..

2006-08-16 Thread Jim Nasby
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 8/16/2006 8:42 AM To: Jim Nasby Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Restoring database question, part 2.. Hi there, one question to your response, are all the tables (especially the pg_* ones) located under the data/base folder for each

Re: [ADMIN] dropping partitioned table waits forever

2006-08-18 Thread Jim Nasby
I think you'll probably need to submit a self-contained, reproducible test case. On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Sriram Dandapani wrote: Postmaster was automatically restarted. (didn't crash). Rules are used to implement the partitioning (and the triggers as well) Using postgres 8.1.2 -

Re: [ADMIN] how to check the creation date of a postgres database?

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Nasby
it's still pretty unclear what the use-case for that info is (and without a decent use- case, it's pretty unlikely that this info will get stored). So... why is it you want to know this? -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://e

Re: [ADMIN] Possible bug in planner (or planner not enough wise in some cases)

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Nasby
d FROM el_text WHERE el_text.user_id = 112))) AND status=1; ... FROM el_comment c, el_comment tt, el_text t WHERE ( ( c.parent_id = tt.id AND tt.user_id = 112 AND tt.status = 1 ) OR ( c.text_id = t.id AND t.user_id = 112 ) ) AND c.status=1; -- Jim Nasby

Re: [ADMIN] The server lacks instrumentation functions

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Nasby
rpms from suse. I don't know, but I'm sure someone on the pgAdmin (not pgsql-admin) list could help. :) -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) -- Jim Nasby

Re: [ADMIN] WAL configuration and REINDEX

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Nasby
ly useless. Second, as long as you are vacuuming frequently enough, there's no reason you should ever have to REINDEX. You certainly shouldn't be doing it on a regular basis. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

Re: [ADMIN] best OS and HW for postgreSQL

2006-09-24 Thread Jim Nasby
I believe there's a tweakers.net article floating around that did some performance testing with the new CPUs. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(e

Re: [JDBC] [ADMIN] number of transactions doubling

2006-09-29 Thread Jim Nasby
it on, you'd see at most one transaction per insert. The triggers might use subtransactions. You get implicit subtransactions if have an EXCEPTION clause in a plpgsql function. I'm not sure if there's other things that do that as well. Ahh, I thought that was handled within cmi

Re: [ADMIN] Disk space consumed by pk not returned after vacuum or reindex

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Nasby
table will be unavailable during the cluster which might be a deal breaker for you. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [ADMIN] postgres in HA constellation

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Nasby
in paying someone to help setting this up, I know that we (EnterpriseDB) have folks that have done this before. I suspect that some of the other folks listed on the commercial support page have done this as well (likely Command Prompt and Varlena). -- Jim Nasby

Re: [ADMIN] Disk space consumed by pk not returned after vacuum or reindex

2006-10-06 Thread Jim Nasby
On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:39 AM, Kevin Johnson wrote: You are correct, it is 7.4 we are running on a RHEL3 system. The database itself is vacuumed via cron 6 times a day. Jim Nasby wrote: I didn't see you mention what version you're running; index bloat shouldn't be a big issue i

Re: [ADMIN] non-standard 'CREATE INDEX' problem

2006-10-10 Thread Jim Nasby
to the docsindicate it's not postgresql syntax.is there a quick hack allow the driver and the database to accept thesyntax?Quick? Not really. You'd have to modify the grammar, at a minimum. --Jim Nasby                                            [EMAIL PROTECTED]EnterpriseD

Re: [ADMIN] startup cost estimate

2006-11-26 Thread Jim Nasby
the startup cost is the estimate of how much work it will take to generate the first row from an operation. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(end of broa

Re: [ADMIN] producing documentation from postgres file

2006-12-04 Thread Jim Nasby
Yahoo! Mail beta. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [ADMIN] Performance question

2006-12-04 Thread Jim Nasby
tdaily (cost=0.00..4.83 rows=1 width=8) Index Cond: ((monthdate = '2006-12-01'::date) AND (kstestssysid = 3143)) If constraint exclusion is on, why are index scans taking place on all of the tables and not only on the only partitioned table for which th

Re: [ADMIN] dump from 8.x restore to 7.3.x

2006-12-04 Thread Jim Nasby
version of *pg_dump* is much more likely to succeed. It's not a guarantee, but it should get you pretty close. And as someone else mentioned, doing a plain text dump is probably your best bet in this case. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [ADMIN] pgexplorer cannot see data in tables

2006-12-22 Thread Jim Nasby
-- Data for Name: doctors; Type: TABLE DATA; Schema: define; Owner: postgres -- INSERT INTO doctors VALUES ('Baker'); INSERT INTO doctors VALUES ('Dow'); INSERT INTO doctors VALUES ('DOW'); Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your quest

Re: [ADMIN] Well, I am making some progress with createdb/dropdb

2006-12-22 Thread Jim Nasby
lines in psql. I think the docs make it pretty obvious which is which, but as a rule of thumb, people tend to capitalize SQL commands (ie: CREATE DATABASE), but not the command-line commands. When in doubt, there's an entire section of the docs that is a reference to all commands. -

Re: [ADMIN] reloading config files pg_ctl reload

2006-12-22 Thread Jim Nasby
reload . While I agree it would be a useful feature, I doubt you'll find much interest from existing developers to add this. I suspect a patch would be accepted, though... just make sure and ask on pgsql-hackers before you start coding one. :) -- Jim

Re: [ADMIN] postgres 8.2 transaction id wraparound

2007-01-05 Thread Jim Nasby
. What is the equivalent command in 8.2 (assuming autovacuum is turned off) vacuumdb -a will still work, though you might do better to let autovacuum take care of things since it will only vacuum tables that need to be vacuumed. -- Jim Nasby

Re: [ADMIN] autovacuum question

2007-03-26 Thread Jim Nasby
g in the process list (how can I check if it is working?) b.) there is a separate program that I should start (where?) c.) I missed some extra configuration (what should I do?) d.) something else Please help me out. Thanks, Laszlo ---(end of broadcast)----

Re: [ADMIN] Finding time in WAL logs

2007-04-27 Thread Jim Nasby
ehind. Additionally, you can specify an XID when doing a point-in-time restore; you don't need to find an exact time to restore to. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell)

Re: [ADMIN] duplicate key violates unique constraint

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Nasby
ferenced by any table. The serial data type is essentially a 'macro' that: Creates a sequence Sets the default value for the field to be the nextval() of that sequence Sets the field to be NOT NULL -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB

Re: [ADMIN] increasing of the shared memory does not solve theproblem of "OUT of shared memory"

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Nasby
increasing this parameter? Yes, increasing max_fsm_relations requires more shared memory. Theres more information about this in the docs... search for shmmax. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell

Re: [ADMIN] Performance Monitor

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 23, 2007, at 10:11 PM, Jair Elton Batista wrote: How to monitor PgSQL performance, like JConsole for Java Virtual Machine? Usage of memory, CPU, etc. Use the OS level tools. There's also a chapter in the documentation dedicated to monitoring. -- Jim

Re: [ADMIN] PostgreSQL Training?

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Nasby
will be having a class in Islen, NJ mid-june, if that's more convenient. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(end of broadcast)---

[ADMIN] Deletes hurt

2007-05-31 Thread Jim Nasby
much in Oracle to do so. My guess is it's because Oracle has to copy the entire deleted row to the undo log as part of the delete, which would be pretty costly. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

Re: [ADMIN] How to restore updated records

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Nasby
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Re: [ADMIN] Table size

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Nasby
e than a few files. -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an a

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Nasby
ing list cleanly -- Jim Nasby[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com 512.569.9461 (cell) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire