Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2021-05-21 Thread Laurenz Albe
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 08:47 +0200, Jürgen Purtz wrote: > Peter changed the status to 'Returned with feedback' at the end of the > last commit fest. I'm not absolutely sure, but my understanding is that > the patch is rejected. There is a different status for that. "Returned with feedback"

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2021-05-21 Thread Jürgen Purtz
Hi Jürgen, What's going to happen with this work? If you intend to have it eventually committed, I think it will be necessary to make the patches smaller, and bring them into the commitfest app, so that others can follow progress. I for one, cannot see/remember/understand what has been

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2021-05-20 Thread Erik Rijkers
Hi Jürgen, What's going to happen with this work? If you intend to have it eventually committed, I think it will be necessary to make the patches smaller, and bring them into the commitfest app, so that others can follow progress. I for one, cannot see/remember/understand what has been

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-10-23 Thread David G. Johnston
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 6:58 AM Jürgen Purtz wrote: > Creating such a chapter in "VII. Internals" will increase the existing > chapter numbers 50 - 71, which may lead to some confusion. On the other > hand the content can possibly be applied to all supported PG versions at > the same time, which

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-10-23 Thread Jürgen Purtz
On 21.10.20 22:33, David G. Johnston wrote: I've begun looking at this and have included quite a few html comments within the patch.  However, the two main items that I have found so far are: One, I agree with Peter that this seems misplaced in Tutorial.  I would create a new Internals

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-09-11 Thread Jürgen Purtz
. There is probably room for improvement, but the section numbers you mention are not about VACUUM, AFAICT, so I can't really comment on what you have in mind. Because of the additional chapter for the 'tutorial' on my local computer, the numbers increased for me. The regular chapter numbers

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-09-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2020-09-02 09:04, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 01.09.20 23:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote: It is mostly advanced low-level information that is irrelevant for someone starting up, That applies only to the VACUUM chapter. VACUUM and AUTOVACUUM are controlled by a lot of parameters. Therefor the current

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-09-02 Thread Jürgen Purtz
On 01.09.20 23:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote: It is mostly advanced low-level information that is irrelevant for someone starting up, That applies only to the VACUUM chapter. VACUUM and AUTOVACUUM are controlled by a lot of parameters. Therefor the current documentation concerning the two

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-09-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Again, I don't see how this belongs into the tutorial. It is mostly advanced low-level information that is irrelevant for someone starting up, it is not hands-on, so quite unlike the rest of the tutorial, and for the most part the information just duplicates what is already explained

RE: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-21 Thread PASCAL CROZET
Hi all, I want to import XML file into PG database table. I've find functions to get the XML content of a cell after imported an XML file with the pg_get_file function. But, I want to explode the XML content to colums. How can I do this ? PG 10 under Ubuntu 18

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-18 Thread Erik Rijkers
On 2020-07-17 11:32, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 12.07.20 22:45, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: This patch no longer applies, due to conflicts in start.sgml, can you please submit a rebased version? cheers ./daniel New version attached. [0005-architecture.patch] Hi, I went through the

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-13 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 13 Jul 2020, at 14:20, Naresh gandi wrote: (please avoid top-posting) > Which version is this application for? > > I tried for v12 and v13 Beta, both failed. Unless being a bugfix, all patches are only considered against the main development branch in Git. As this is new material, it

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-13 Thread Naresh gandi
Which version is this application for? I tried for v12 and v13 Beta, both failed. Regards, Naresh G On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:45 AM Jürgen Purtz wrote: > > On 12.07.20 22:45, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > This patch no longer applies, due to conflicts in start.sgml, can you > please > >

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-13 Thread Jürgen Purtz
On 12.07.20 22:45, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: This patch no longer applies, due to conflicts in start.sgml, can you please submit a rebased version? ok. but I need some days.  juergen

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-07-12 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 2 Jun 2020, at 17:01, Jürgen Purtz wrote: > In comparison with to previous patch this one contains: > > - Position and title changed to reflect its intention and importance. > > - A delimits VACUUM basics from details. This is done because I cannot > find another suitable place for such

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-30 Thread Jürgen Purtz
On 29.04.20 21:12, Peter Eisentraut wrote: I don't see this really as belonging into the tutorial.  The tutorial should be hands-on, how do you get started, how do you get some results. Yes, the tutorial should be a short overview and give instructions how to start. IMO the first 4

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2020-04-29 16:13, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 20.04.20 10:30, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 17.04.20 20:40, Erik Rijkers wrote: Very good stuff, and useful. I think. I mean that but nevertheless here is a lot of comment :) (I didn't fully compile as docs, just read the 'text' from the patch file)

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial - (review first half of 0003)

2020-04-29 Thread Erik Rijkers
On 2020-04-29 16:13, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 20.04.20 10:30, Jürgen Purtz wrote: On 17.04.20 20:40, Erik Rijkers wrote: Very good stuff, and useful. I think. I mean that but nevertheless here is a lot of comment :) (I didn't fully compile as docs, just read the 'text' from the patch file)

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-20 Thread Jürgen Purtz
On 17.04.20 20:40, Erik Rijkers wrote: Very good stuff, and useful. I think. I mean that but nevertheless here is a lot of comment :) (I didn't fully compile as docs, just read the 'text' from the patch file) Thanks. Added nearly all of the suggestions. -- Jürgen Purtz diff --git

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-17 Thread Erik Rijkers
On 2020-04-17 19:56, Jürgen Purtz wrote: Our documentation explains many details about commands, tools, parameters in detail and with high accuracy. Nevertheless my impression is that we neglect the 'big picture': why certain processes [0001-architecture.patch] Very good stuff, and useful.

Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-17 Thread Corey Huinker
> > I plan to extend over time the part 'Tutorial' by an additional chapter > with an overview about key design decisions and basic features. The > typical audience should consist of persons with limited pre-knowledge in > database systems and some interest in PostgreSQL. In the

Additional Chapter for Tutorial

2020-04-17 Thread Jürgen Purtz
situations, ... . People with mature knowledge don't miss this information because they know all about it. But for beginners such explanations would be a great help. In the time before GSoD 2019 we had similar discussions. I plan to extend over time the part 'Tutorial' by an additional chapter