Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-11 Thread Josh Berkus
On 08/09/2013 07:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Josh Berkus writes: >> Actually, on further feedback from the organizer, it's not 2 days, it's >> *five*. I don't know too many of us who can afford a full week to work >> on community documentation. Oh well, we'll have to do it on our own :-( > > Do th

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-11 Thread Josh Berkus
On 08/11/2013 12:04 PM, Craig Kerstiens wrote: > Don't want to put too much pressure on others, but if interested I'm pretty > sure I could be available the full week, and would be happy to commit the > time. Yeah, the problem is that they want 3-5 community members who can commit. And we've m

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-11 Thread Craig Kerstiens
Don't want to put too much pressure on others, but if interested I'm pretty sure I could be available the full week, and would be happy to commit the time. ~ Craig On Sunday, August 11, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 08/09/2013 07:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > Josh Berkus mailto:j...@

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-10 Thread Basil Bourque
UPDATE: I just made contact with the coordinator of the "2013 Doc Camp Call for Proposals". • We just missed the August 7 deadline. Can we still sneak in? --> Yes, if we hurry. • Do they insist on people showing up for the full five days? --> Yes, you must commit to all 5 days. (October 14-18, 2

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-10 Thread Basil Bourque
On Aug 3, 2013, at 18:45, Craig Kerstiens wrote: > There's a great set of reference docs, but in terms of getting started its > quite painful. Yes, I can speak from experience that getting started with Postgres is definitely the biggest obstacle to its adoption. The Postgres docs don't help e

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-09 Thread Satoshi Nagayasu
(2013/08/06 5:15), Steve Atkins wrote: On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:41 -0700, Steve Atkins wrote: For real newbies a major hurdle is getting the server up and a user / database created, so a platform-specific "actually getting up and running" pr

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-09 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: > Actually, on further feedback from the organizer, it's not 2 days, it's > *five*. I don't know too many of us who can afford a full week to work > on community documentation. Oh well, we'll have to do it on our own :-( Do they insist on people showing up for the full five

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-09 Thread Josh Berkus
On 08/03/2013 06:45 PM, Craig Kerstiens wrote: > Count me as both intrigued and interest. > > Josh and others may know my feelings… The Postgres tutorial needs to be > entirely blown up. There's a great set of reference docs, but in terms of > getting started its quite painful. I suspect with

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-09 Thread Craig Kerstiens
Count me as both intrigued and interest. Josh and others may know my feelings… The Postgres tutorial needs to be entirely blown up. There's a great set of reference docs, but in terms of getting started its quite painful. I suspect with some information on what people are paying to in the ex

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-05 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:41 -0700, Steve Atkins wrote: >> For real newbies a major hurdle is getting the server up and >> a user / database created, so a platform-specific "actually getting >> up and running" prequel tutorial would also be a

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:41 -0700, Steve Atkins wrote: > For real newbies a major hurdle is getting the server up and > a user / database created, so a platform-specific "actually getting > up and running" prequel tutorial would also be a big improvement. > I agree. The real gap we have are platf

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-05 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 5, 2013, at 9:20 AM, David Fetter wrote: > +1 for PostgreSQL tutorials that actually tutor. Is it worth trying > to do a baseline general one first, or going directly to separate ones > for DBAs, app & DB developers, etc.? For real newbies a major hurdle is getting the server up and a u

Re: [DOCS] Google Doc Camp

2013-08-05 Thread David Fetter
+1 for PostgreSQL tutorials that actually tutor. Is it worth trying to do a baseline general one first, or going directly to separate ones for DBAs, app & DB developers, etc.? Cheers, David. On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 06:45:49PM -0700, Craig Kerstiens wrote: > Count me as both intrigued and interest