Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Jeff Davis
On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 21:25, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor > ones. Either send in a patch

Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 00:25:43 -0400, Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor

Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Tom Lane
Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't understand the following passage: > "When matching GROUP BY names, prefer local FROM columns first, then > SELECT aliases, and then outer FROM columns (Tom) > This change was made because it is considered more consistent than the > previous behavio

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the following paragraph there appear to be two typos. I think > "optimizer make" should be "optimizer makes" and that "lose-source" > should be "closed-source". > It is difficult to explain all the optimizer improvements that go into a release > l

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread David Garamond
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor ones. Either send in a patch or committers can modify the file dir

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-25 Thread elein
Perhaps after OSCON I can work with fetter on getting the documentation clarified. OK? --elein On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 12:34:13PM -0700, David Fetter wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:31:47PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What *is* broken is table in

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-25 Thread elein
Postgresql is not simply a relational database. It is an OBJECT relational database. It was designed to be so from the start. To pretend it was designed otherwise is to deny its design and heritage and the original intent of the the project. c.f. the postgres papers, stonebraker, et.al. And lik

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian said: > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor > ones. Either send in a patch or committers can modify the f

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-25 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lane) writes: > David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:30:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >>> If we're going to remove from the tutorial every feature for which >>> any aspect is deemed by someone to be broken, the tutorial is liable >>> to become

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 05:25, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor > ones. Either send in a patch

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Simon Riggs wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 05:25, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor > > o

Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't understand the following passage: > > > "When matching GROUP BY names, prefer local FROM columns first, then > > SELECT aliases, and then outer FROM columns (Tom) > > This change was made because it is considered more consistent

Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jeff Davis wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 21:25, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > > that need to be addressed. I am looking for improvements, even minor > > on

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
All added. Thanks. --- Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Bruce Momjian said: > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > > that

Re: [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 00:25:43 -0400, > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > > that need to be addressed. I am loo

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
\Tom Lane wrote: > Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In the following paragraph there appear to be two typos. I think > > "optimizer make" should be "optimizer makes" and that "lose-source" > > should be "closed-source". > > > It is difficult to explain all the optimizer improvement

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Adjustment made: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pginstaller. This release supports NT-based Windows releases like NT4, Win2k, XP, Win2003. Older releases like Windows 95, 98, and ME are not supported because these operating systems do not have the infrastructure to

Re: [HACKERS] [DOCS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
All fixed. Thanks. --- Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 00:25:43 -0400, > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > the develope

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Simon Riggs
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 00:55, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Simon Riggs wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 05:25, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I have completed the 7.5 release notes. You can view them in HTML on > > > the developer web page. I have marked a few items with question marks > > > that need to be

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] 7.5 release notes

2004-07-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Simon Riggs wrote: > > For me, clarity and > > candor gain a lot more credibility than trying to cover over missing > > functionality in the past. I am not saying we have to be so honest that > > we bash PostgreSQL, but in cases where we adjust wording to try to > > prevent ourselves from looking