Hi, all!
I was able to fix the problem, by dropping the sequence and recreating
with the username hibernate uses.
Although before that I connected to database as hibernate user and tried
to call hibernate_sequence and it worked fine.
Thank you!
Andrey
-Original Message-
From: Chris [m
Thanks, Michael. Don't know how I missed those.
-M@
On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:37:47PM -0800, Matthew Hixson wrote:
I have a create function statement that works with Oracle 8i and I'm
trying to create this function in Postgres 8.1.2.
See
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:37:47PM -0800, Matthew Hixson wrote:
> I have a create function statement that works with Oracle 8i and I'm
> trying to create this function in Postgres 8.1.2.
See the PL/pgSQL documentation, in particular the section on cursors,
which has several examples. You might
I have a create function statement that works with Oracle 8i and I'm
trying to create this function in Postgres 8.1.2.
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION pr_user( p0 CHAR ) RETURN
Types.cursor_type IS
rs Types.cursor_type;
BEGIN
OPEN rs FOR
SELECT us.approval_type_code AS us_approval_type_code FROM
>
> Even if such a query did return a "nullable" flag, plenty of other
> metadata would be absent that might be just as interesting from a
> schema-viewing standpoint (CHECK, PRIMARY KEY, etc.). A better way
> to view the schema is to query the system catalogs or the Information
> Schema.
I now
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:12AM +1100, James Harper wrote:
> > Be careful what you infer from such a scan: not finding any NULLs
> > doesn't necessarily mean a column isn't nullable, it just means the
> > result set didn't contain any NULLs.
>
> I understand that limitation, but haven't figured
I'm running version 8.1 on XP.
When I point and click on pgadmin tables too quickly, sometimes, the program
freezes and I get the Windows message about reporting the failure.
If I stay cool and 'deterministic' (in other words - slow) there doesn't
seem to be a problem.
However, this may not
On Feb 1, 2006, at 10:32 , Bob Pawley wrote:
I'm a little concerned about stability since my Postgresql
application has failed three times in the last couple of months. It
seems to have failed when too many things are happening at the same
time - mostly things that have been instigated by
I'm a little concerned about stability since my Postgresql application has
failed three times in the last couple of months. It seems to have failed
when too many things are happening at the same time - mostly things that
have been instigated by my pointing and clicking.
Bob
- Original Me
On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:53 , Bob Pawley wrote:
Two way conversion will be a neccesity. My thought was that dual
conversion could be not only complex but also have problems with
stability.
I'm not sure why it would be a stability issue. As for the
complexity, I think once it's implemented yo
I would create functions. Store the data in one format, and convert
with functions as needed on the fly.
E.g.:
SELECT Fahrenheit_to_Celcius(Fahrenheit_temp) FROM temperatures;
If that seems kludgy for the users, then create views for them that
perform the needed conversions using the functions.
Two way conversion will be a neccesity. My thought was that dual conversion
could be not only complex but also have problems with stability.
Option 2 would be less complex and there would be less potential stability
problems. However, there is some perception of redundancy in having two or
mor
On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:02 , Bob Pawley wrote:
1 – creating a single table of data in the format of
the users’ choice, then converting the data en masse as the user
requests. Sort of like conversion-on-demand.
I've been thinking about a similar application recently, and leaning
I’m looking for ideas on the direction I should take.
I’m constructing an engineering database. I want to include the
capability of converting engineering data to different systems. For instance –
Fahrenheit to Celsius, lbs/hr to gph to gpm and to liters per minute.
My thinkin
I must not be following what you are saying. There are cases where
NEW.position could be greater than OLD.position and it cannot ignore it.
Here's the pseudo code for my store procedure.
IF OLD.position <> NEW.position THEN
drop the trigger
IF NEW.position > OLD.position THEN
bum
We have an interesting problem here. We have a server at a customer's site
on which the database will not come up. Because of the nature of the
product we make, we don't turn on Postgresql logs, so no log data
is avaliable.
What we see is that when we start postmaster it starts, but anyone who
John Zubac wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> What is the best way to go about rotating the postgres security log file on
> postgresql 7.4.11 under openbsd 3.7?
>
> I got it to work logging to a file but as soon as the file rotates the new
> log is dead. Would reloading the postmaster after the log rotat
Mott Leroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Will postgres lock on all rows as it goes through this loop? Or can you
> give me a better idea of what I can expect to be locked in my example?
SELECTs don't lock any rows. INSERTs don't create any lockable rows
in themselves (other backends can't even s
Tom Lane wrote:
No, the ShareLock is the means used when transaction A needs to wait for
transaction B to complete --- it tries to take a share lock on xact B's
XID, which of course is blocked as along as B is holding its
ExclusiveLock. This is used when there is a row-update conflict, ie,
A wan
You should be able to detect for the case where NEW.position >
OLD.position and ignore it, no?
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:45:09PM -0600, Justin Pasher wrote:
> Postgres 7.4.7 (I know, a little old, but we haven't had a chance to
> upgrade)
>
> I have a table that stores menu items for a side navi
There's also darwinports, which has 8.1.2.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:44:13AM -0700, Rick Gigger wrote:
> I haven't tried those specific versions but I'm guessing a build from
> source will work great.
>
> If you are ok with just using 8.0 then you could use fink (http://
> fink.sourceforge.ne
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 08:15:44PM +0100, Jochen Schlosser wrote:
> > Well, it's in the FAQ under "How much database disk space is required
> > to store data from a typical text file?" but the per tuple overhead is
> > between 36 and 44 bytes. depends a bit on the version.
>
> allright... thx a lo
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:13:05AM +0300, Myatluk Andrey wrote:
> SEVERE: ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until
> end of transaction block Jan 30, 2006 8:21:35 PM
That error means something prior to that in the same transaction failed
and you haven't issued a rollback yet.
On 1/31/06, Rick Gigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried those specific versions but I'm guessing a build from
> source will work great.
>
> If you are ok with just using 8.0 then you could use fink (http://
> fink.sourceforge.net). Fink is apt-get for Mac. It looks like 8.1
> is stil
Tom Lane wrote:
"P. Scott DeVos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
When using the Fedora Core 4 rpms for plpython, I find that when an
error is raised, the error logger does not report the line number of the
python function where the error was raised which makes debugging the
functions very difficu
It would probably be very useful to turn on query logging in PostgreSQL
to see what exactly the ODBC layer is attempting to do. In the meantime,
you can certainly create a postgres schema. If you want to do this via
psql:
psql -c 'create schema postgres; grant all on schema postgres to public'
da
Mott Leroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> One thing I noticed is it seems like for every transaction lock there's
> an "ExclusiveLock" (to be expected, a lock on the transaction num) as
> well as a "ShareLock" on the same transaction which has not been granted
> the lock -- does this mean that tw
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 11:18:23AM +0100, Christian Kratzer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Eric B. Ridge wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >hahaha, *blush*. I could just use "now()", right? pg8.1 docs say that
> >now()/CURRENT_TIMESTAMP "return the start time of the current transaction;
> >their valu
Recently we discovered that a stored procedure that we run locks some
table(s) and prevents some SQL from running.
We discovered this because doing a simple grep against postgres
processes revealed several processes "WAITING":
-- snip --
00:04:31 postgres: dataman our_db 10.0.0.103 INSERT wai
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:14:45PM -0500, Chris Browne wrote:
> > As for Reindex, I'm not entirely sure, I don't think you would benefit
> > from reindex because you aren't updating or deleting. Can anyone comment
> > on this? Is is possibile that a table with lots of inserts resulting in
> > lot
Postgres 7.4.7 (I know, a little old, but we haven't had a chance to
upgrade)
I have a table that stores menu items for a side navigation menu for a web
site. Each menu item has a "position" column set that determines where to
put the menu item in the display. At any given time, the menu items sho
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:01:48AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 18:24:36 +0100,
> LaroG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey.
> > I am new here. I???m from Poland:-)
> > I have one question (I don???t now if this is the right group for this
> > question and ??? if my Eng
Keary Suska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This thread has particular interest to me as well--the libpq documentation
> and examples seem to imply that the backend will consider all parameters to
> be string literals, although postgres is smart enough to perform
> conversions.
No, not a "string lit
> Well, it's in the FAQ under "How much database disk space is required
> to store data from a typical text file?" but the per tuple overhead is
> between 36 and 44 bytes. depends a bit on the version.
allright... thx a lot!
I did not see this point in the FAQ because I am not storing data from
a
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:15:18AM -0800, tschak wrote:
> Allright... do you mean an alignment with an offset of 4/8 bit or byte?
> If it is just bit I cannot really follow the calculation...
> Nevertheless it sounds like an explanation for this "effect".
>
> I have one more question concerning si
"FERREIRA, William (VALTECH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> here is the EXPLAIN ANALYSE of my query :
That's not an EXPLAIN ANALYZE ... that's an EXPLAIN VERBOSE, which is
hardly ever of any use for performance issues.
regards, tom lane
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"P. Scott DeVos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When using the Fedora Core 4 rpms for plpython, I find that when an
> error is raised, the error logger does not report the line number of the
> python function where the error was raised which makes debugging the
> functions very difficult.
> Using t
on 1/29/06 8:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] purportedly said:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 06:03:41PM +0100, Joachim Wieland wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 08:26:01PM +0100, Alexander Farber wrote:
>>> Could you explain a bit more, where to get the OIDs?
>>
>> They are in the pg_type table, it is descr
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:27:23AM -0800, rlee0001 wrote:
> > The problem was that SUBSTRING returns NULL if it cannot find any
> > matches for the pattern and when the second parameter to REPLACE
> > returns NULL, REPLACE returns NULL (which i
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:23:54PM +1100, James Harper wrote:
> For the libpq interface:
>
> I need to be able to know if a column in a result from a query is
> nullable or not. From reading the documentation it seems that I can
> obtain the following information:
> . scan all the rows in the resu
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, rlee0001 wrote:
> I did get the code working. The function DDL follows:
>
> CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION "webadmin"."regexp_replacex" (source
> varchar, pattern varchar, replacement varchar) RETURNS varchar AS
> $body$
> DECLARE
> retvalue VARCHAR;
> BEGIN
> retvalue = "sourc
Rich Doughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We are currently migrating a cluster between hosts. I'd like to
> verify that the new database has been transferred reliably and
> that the datafiles are in tact.
pg_dump both databases and diff the results, perhaps?
regards, tom
Allright... do you mean an alignment with an offset of 4/8 bit or byte?
If it is just bit I cannot really follow the calculation...
Nevertheless it sounds like an explanation for this "effect".
I have one more question concerning size. The following table
create table test(val0 unsigned smallint,
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 07:58:30AM -0800, tschak wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> my first question concerns the the size of a table with a bytea row. In
> the documentation it says something like 4 Bytes + 1 Byte for each
> escaped octet sequence per row. For example an insertion into a table
> storing
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:27:23AM -0800, rlee0001 wrote:
> The problem was that SUBSTRING returns NULL if it cannot find any
> matches for the pattern and when the second parameter to REPLACE
> returns NULL, REPLACE returns NULL (which is idiotic). Using COALESCE I
> ensure that is SUBSTRING canno
I haven't tried those specific versions but I'm guessing a build from
source will work great.
If you are ok with just using 8.0 then you could use fink (http://
fink.sourceforge.net). Fink is apt-get for Mac. It looks like 8.1
is still in their unstable branch. Hopefully it will be moved
Nagios and snmp
http://www.nagios.org/
On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Henrique Engelmann wrote:
Hi,
We´ve many postgresql servers running in linux Redhat/Fedora boxes
in our enterprise and we´re looking for some tool to help us to
administer and monitor those systems. This tool should monit
here is the EXPLAIN ANALYSE of my query :
{SORT
:startup_cost 9.65
:total_cost 9.66
:plan_rows 1
:plan_width 28
:targetlist (
{TARGETENTRY
:expr
{VAR
:varno 1
:varattno 1
:vartype 23
:vartypmod -1
:varlevelsup 0
Guido Neitzer wrote:
Perhaps you have to do some tricks to tell the script which tables or
columns should be equal and which are allowed to differ, but as far as
I can see, it shouldn't be that hard. At all, it took me about a day to
verify the db contents.
I'm not too fussed about a row-b
I haven't compiled it myself, but a guess would be if you installed
XCode (which comes with gcc, and should have most if not all the libs
needed) it's a matter of grabbing the source, untarring it, running ./
configure in the src dir, make, and make install, etc. (Follow the
normal build i
Initial setup, I used the packages at http://www.entropy.ch and from that
point on, I build from source for the upgrades.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrus
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:59 AM
To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subje
How to install Postgres 8.1 on PowerMac 10.1, OS X 10.4.4 ?
Is there ready made binaries available for download of should I build from
source ?
Where are installing or building instructions for Mac available ?
Andrus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrique
EngelmannSent: 31 January 2006 16:06To:
pgsql-general@postgresql.orgSubject: [GENERAL] Automatic monitoring
Hi,
We´ve many postgresql servers running in linux Redhat/Fedora boxes in our
On 31.01.2006, at 16:00 Uhr, Rich Doughty wrote:
i had considered pg_dump. i was hoping there was a utility similar
to fsck that could check for corruption. i'd like to verify now that
the data is ok, rather than coming across errors in 6 months time.
I have done this using JDBC (and the WebOb
Hi, We´ve many postgresql servers running in linux Redhat/Fedora boxes in our enterprise and we´re looking for some tool to help us to administer and monitor those systems. This tool should monitor some basic linux and postgresql parameters like: . memory usage. swapping . disk i/o queue. c
Wonderful. That is good news. Thanks.
Rick
On Jan 31, 2006, at 7:14 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Rick Gigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
That's what I mean by invalid. Let's say I do something stupid and
do a physical backup and I don't grab the current WAL file. All I
have is the last one to be a
Hi everyone,
my first question concerns the the size of a table with a bytea row. In
the documentation it says something like 4 Bytes + 1 Byte for each
escaped octet sequence per row. For example an insertion into a table
storing just one column with bytea data looks like this:
insert into test va
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Has anyone successfully used the "ANY", "ALL", or "SOME" clause using
> arrays? Cant seem to get this to work. Heres the gist of my function
> which returns a SETOF INTEGER[]...
Works for me, modulo the fact that the code is evidently returning
setof int not setof int[]
[Sorry if this is a repeat. Thought I sent this but I didn't see
it come through the mailing list.]
Quoting Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have this table and index:
create table t(id int, hash int);
create index idx_t on t(hash);
The value of the hash col
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone successfully used the "ANY", "ALL", or "SOME" clause using
arrays? Cant seem to get this to work. Heres the gist of my function
which returns a SETOF INTEGER[]...
DECLARE
id_var INTEGER[];
record_var RECORD;
BEGIN
id_var[0] := 1;
I think by default arr
"rlee0001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION "regexp_replacex" (source varchar, pattern
> varchar, replacement varchar) RETURNS varchar AS
> $body$
> DECLARE
> retvalue VARCHAR;
> BEGIN
> retvalue = "source";
> LOOP
> retvalue = REPLACE(retvalue, SUBSTRING(retvalue FROM
Hey all
When using the Fedora Core 4 rpms for plpython, I find that when an
error is raised, the error logger does not report the line number of the
python function where the error was raised which makes debugging the
functions very difficult.
Using the native Windows installer, the line number
Kynn Jones wrote:
<< kj314159265358979 >>
I know that one can store multiple psql commands and SQL statements in
a separate "script" file, and then "source" the script file, e.g. with
the \i command.
My question is, can I define variables in such a script file? E.g. can
I do something like the
For the libpq interface:
I need to be able to know if a column in a result from a query is
nullable or not. From reading the documentation it seems that I can
obtain the following information:
. scan all the rows in the result and see if there exists a null value
for each column...
. backtrack the
I did get the code working. The function DDL follows:
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION "webadmin"."regexp_replacex" (source
varchar, pattern varchar, replacement varchar) RETURNS varchar AS
$body$
DECLARE
retvalue VARCHAR;
BEGIN
retvalue = "source";
LOOP
retvalue = REPLACE(retvalue, COALESCE(SUBSTR
Has anyone successfully used the "ANY", "ALL", or "SOME" clause using
arrays? Cant seem to get this to work. Heres the gist of my function
which returns a SETOF INTEGER[]...
DECLARE
id_var INTEGER[];
record_var RECORD;
BEGIN
id_var[0] := 1;
id_var[1] := 2;
id_var[2] := 3;
FOR record_va
I have a stupid problem. My server is running an old version of
postgres (8.0.3) and therefore lacks the regexp_replace() function. It
does however support substring and replace functions. So what I am
trying to do is emulate the regexp_replace() function by creating a
function which finds each mat
<< kj314159265358979 >>
I know that one can store multiple psql commands and SQL statements in
a separate "script" file, and then "source" the script file, e.g. with
the \i command.
My question is, can I define variables in such a script file? E.g. can
I do something like the following unix-shel
EMS PostgreSQL Manager for Windows (Commercial)
Actually its all I've ever used for postgres but it works well. Could
be better.
-Robert
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I've got some money in my companies budget this year to buy postgres
support/professional services.
feel free to forward this message to other developers (or sales folks) to have
them contact me
I will be running the database on
Tom Lane wrote:
Rich Doughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
We are currently migrating a cluster between hosts. I'd like to
verify that the new database has been transferred reliably and
that the datafiles are in tact.
pg_dump both databases and diff the results, perhaps?
i had considered pg_
Rick Gigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That's what I mean by invalid. Let's say I do something stupid and
> do a physical backup and I don't grab the current WAL file. All I
> have is the last one to be archived before I did my backup, which is
> not late enough to do a valid restore. W
"Myatluk Andrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, Chris!
>
> I've set the sequence owner to my database user. It hasn't changed
> anything.
>
> I guess I have to connect through psql as user and then see what
> happens.
> If it fails, what could be my next step?
That would depend on the error me
OK. This is working in my test environment.
I changed the schema name
I changed the binary and text description in the attrdef table.
I subtract 1 from the number both before the [ and after the ] because
my new schema has 1 letter less then the old schema.
It seems to be working.
Can anybody
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:27 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in
Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could
build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as
IzPack). Just
Oliver Fürst wrote:
As this is a bit hard to accomplish with Windows' own task manager,
get SysInternals free Process Explorer from here
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html and after
starting it, use Find -> Find Handle (CTRL + F) and search for
"postgres:". This will g
Hi,
On 31.01.2006 10:33, Howard Cole wrote:
Now when the Database server is running on a linux server, I can run ps
and pick the sessions that I want to kill. However how can I do this on
windows? Is there a psql command to kill sessions?
As this is a bit hard to accomplish with Windows' own
Yes, the exception is in sequence code, but it is BECAUSE of a previous
error, at least that's what I think based on the original mail. Check
your transaction handling code... do you have finally clauses around all
data access code rolling back if needed ? Just committing in the success
case is not
Hi,
When trying to drop a database using psql connected to a windows server
running postgresql 8.0.3, I get the error message "Database X is being
accessed by other users."
Now when the Database server is running on a linux server, I can run ps
and pick the sessions that I want to kill. Howe
Hi, Chris!
I've set the sequence owner to my database user. It hasn't changed
anything.
I guess I have to connect through psql as user and then see what
happens.
If it fails, what could be my next step?
Andrey
-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, Janu
On 1/31/06, Rich Doughty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are currently migrating a cluster between hosts. I'd like to
> verify that the new database has been transferred reliably and
> that the datafiles are in tact.
>
> What's the recommended way to do this? We're using
> pg_start/stop_backup so a
Hi, Csaba,
Here's the original Tomcat log. From this log you can see that exception
is thrown in sequence code.
HTTP Status 500 -
type Exception report
message
description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented
it from fulfilling this request.
exception
javax.servlet.Se
We are currently migrating a cluster between hosts. I'd like to
verify that the new database has been transferred reliably and
that the datafiles are in tact.
What's the recommended way to do this? We're using
pg_start/stop_backup so an md5 check is out of the question.
pg version 8.0
Thanks,
The error you're seeing comes from before. You only see the fact that
there was an error, and postgres is ignoring your queries until you roll
back. I bet you have a glitch in your transaction handling code, like
opening a transaction, getting an error on it, hibernate throws an error
and you don't
Hi,
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:27 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
> I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in
> Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could
> build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as
> IzPack). Just my 2 cents :)
Hi,
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 22:45 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:
> > However none of them are PostgreSQL Installers, none of them has the
> > ability to customize the packages and none of them has the ability to
> > install the community packages, etc. :)
>
> You need to take a sniff over at the FreeBS
Hi,
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:36 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> >>Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or
> >>put everything in /usr/local?
> >
> >
> > We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;)
> >
> RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;)
Hi,
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:34 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> > http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/
> >
> > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me
> > an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you
> > need to be a Python guy
Tino Wildenhain wrote:
Jonah H. Harris schrieb:
I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in
Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could
build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as
IzPack). Just my 2 cents :)
Yes! Use Java for
am 31.01.2006, um 8:46:44 +0100 mailte Tino Wildenhain folgendes:
> Jonah H. Harris schrieb:
> >I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java...
> >IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off
> >some nice OSS installers that already exist (such
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