Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/26/11, Uwe Schroeder wrote: > In my experience "data formatting" goes both ways, in and out. Out is > obviously not a major issue because errors don't cause data corruption. In, > however, is a different issue. Errors in "inwards" conversion will cause > data > corruption. So unless you have

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/11, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:41:19PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> I am amazed to read that you/the PC community were still running >> regression tests >> >> *in ASCII*: >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/release-9-1.html (E.1.3.12. >> Sourc

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 09/25/11 7:48 PM, Uwe Schroeder wrote: Which still depends on your use case. Your assumption is that every piece of code is coded in Java - which is fine if that's what your application calls for. It's going to be a major hassle when you ever have to re-code in a different language though. i

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Uwe Schroeder
> First, I wonder what kind of technical person would say there are > "de-facto truth(s)". I thought only politicians would talk like that. Well, politicians and Microsoft, Oracle etc. :-) > Now, in a sense you are right, I am talking from the background of my > own experiences (and so are you

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:41:19PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am amazed to read that you/the PC community were still running regression > tests > > *in ASCII*: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/release-9-1.html (E.1.3.12. Source > Code) > * Run regression tests > (postgr

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/11, David Johnston wrote: > On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:11, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> Can you or do you know of anyone who has made those kinds of >> imaginations falsifiable? > > No; not worth my effort. ~ ;-) ~ >>> That approach strips down on application complexity. My apps don't have >>>

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Chris Travers
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> I cannot imagine you would benefit that much by removing these capabilities >> compared to simply ignoring them. >> Plus, by having it in the DB I avoid considerable considerable overhead > ~ >  Can you or do you know of anyone who has

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Uwe Schroeder
> > ... you're looking for a non-sql compliant SQL database where a lot of > > the data integrity is actually coded in the application :-) > > ~ > First past of your statement I acknowledged, but how is it exactly > that "lot of the data integrity is actually coded in the application" > ~ Take

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Tom Lane
Albretch Mueller writes: > Well, at least I thought you would tell me where the postgresql-base > is to be found. The last version I found is: > > http://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/distfiles/postgresql/postgresql-base-8.3beta2.tar.bz2 > and I wondered what that is and why there are no postgr

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 06:11:36AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > ~ > Well, at least I thought you would tell me where the postgresql-base > is to be found. The last version I found is: > ~ > > http://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/distfiles/postgresql/postgresql-base-8.3beta2.tar.bz2 Notwithst

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Scott Ribe
On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:11 AM, Albretch Mueller wrote: > For what exactly? Isn't a comparison on 4 numeric bytes (1 (or 1/2) > word in modern hardware) more efficient than comparing sequences of > string characters? What on earth makes you think the db engine compares numbers as strings??? -- Sco

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 25 Sep 2011, at 8:11, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> ... and can now use those features within my SQL statements/queries. > ~ > For what exactly? Isn't a comparison on 4 numeric bytes (1 (or 1/2) > word in modern hardware) more efficient than comparing sequences of > string characters? Data types

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-25 Thread David Johnston
On Sep 25, 2011, at 2:11, Albretch Mueller wrote: > ~ > Well, at least I thought you would tell me where the postgresql-base > is to be found. The last version I found is: > ~ > http://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/distfiles/postgresql/postgresql-base-8.3beta2.tar.bz2 > ~ > and I wondered what tha

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
~ Well, at least I thought you would tell me where the postgresql-base is to be found. The last version I found is: ~ http://freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw/pub/distfiles/postgresql/postgresql-base-8.3beta2.tar.bz2 ~ and I wondered what that is and why there are no postgresql-base after "8.3beta2" ~ >

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread Uwe Schroeder
> ~ > I have been searching for a PostgreSQL-derived project with a > "less-is-best" Philosophy. Even though I have read about quite a bit > of PG forks out there, what I have in mind is more like a baseline > than a fork. > ~ > My intention is not wrapping the same thing in a different package

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread Darren Duncan
Based on your description, I suggest you might want to look at SQLite. It provides a number of compile-time options where you can exclude various features you don't want from the binary, when simply ignoring the extra features isn't good enough. -- Darren Duncan Albretch Mueller wrote: ~ I

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread David Johnston
On Sep 24, 2011, at 22:54, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Do you see any usefulness in such a project? > ~ > Do you know of such a project? Anyone interested? Any suggestions to > someone embarking in it? > ~ > It would be great if PG developers see any good in it and do it themselves ;-) > ~ > lbrtchx

Re: [GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Christensen
> ~ >  I have been searching for a PostgreSQL-derived project with a > "less-is-best" Philosophy. Even though I have read about quite a bit > of PG forks out there, what I have in mind is more like a baseline > than a fork. > ~ >  My intention is not wrapping the same thing in a different package o

[GENERAL] (another ;-)) PostgreSQL-derived project ...

2011-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
~ I have been searching for a PostgreSQL-derived project with a "less-is-best" Philosophy. Even though I have read about quite a bit of PG forks out there, what I have in mind is more like a baseline than a fork. ~ My intention is not wrapping the same thing in a different package or code add-ons