Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-21 Thread Scott Ribe
On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Vick Khera wrote: > Ok...there is *one* advantage: > you can lose any two drives at the same time and still survive, with > RAID-10 if you lose the wrong two drives you're hosed. Exactly. The performance advantage of RAID-10 over RAID-6 in this sever is, I think, not

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-21 Thread Vick Khera
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Scott Ribe wrote: > RAID-1 & RAID-10 are not ruled out, I'm just exploring options. And I'm not > actually wanting to use RAID 5; it's RAID 6 that I'm considering... You have 4 disk bays and you want RAID-6? How will that improve anything over RAID-10? You will

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-21 Thread Vick Khera
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > Pluses for the Arecas I've used: > Out Of Band monitoring.  Heck, I've updated the firmware on them from > 1000 miles away. > fast in RAID-10.  Lots of HW controllers (I'm looking at you, LSI) > perform poorly with layered RAID. > They all us

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-18 Thread Scott Ribe
On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:23 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > I guess you could call Highpoint a RAID manufacturer, but I wouldn't do so. > They've released so many terrible problems over the years that it's hard to > take the fact that they may have something reasonable you can buy now (the > 43XX cards

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Greg Smith
On 06/17/2011 01:02 PM, Scott Ribe wrote: 1) Is my impression correct that given a choice between Areca& Highpoint, it's a no-brainer to go with Areca? I guess you could call Highpoint a RAID manufacturer, but I wouldn't do so. They've released so many terrible problems over the years t

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Scott Ribe wrote: > It's small enough that there's some other things going on at the same small > server with 4 disk bays ;-) My thinking was that write-back cache might > mitigate the poor write performance enough to not be noticed. This db doesn't > generally

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Ribe
On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > Generally, yes, but the model of the card is more important than the > maker. I.e. an Areca 1880 or 1680 is a fantastic performer. But the > older 1120 series aren't gonna set the world on fire or anything. And, in further digging, I discover

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Ribe
Thanks much for the specific info on Areca RAID cards. Very helpful. On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > The problem with RAID-5 is crappy write performance. Being big or > small won't change that. Plus if the db is small why use RAID-5? It's small enough that there's some oth

Re: [GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Scott Ribe wrote: > No responses to my earlier post, I'm assuming because OS X experience is > rather thin in this group ;-) So a couple of more specific questions: > > 1) Is my impression correct that given a choice between Areca & Highpoint, > it's a no-braine

[GENERAL] 2 questions re RAID

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Ribe
No responses to my earlier post, I'm assuming because OS X experience is rather thin in this group ;-) So a couple of more specific questions: 1) Is my impression correct that given a choice between Areca & Highpoint, it's a no-brainer to go with Areca? 2) I understand why RAID 5 is not general