On 29/11/03, Randal L. Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Well, since I need 2.5 ideas per month for the three columns I'm still
writing, I'm certainly in a position to write nice things about PG,
although I always have to work it in from a Perl slant.
Actually, I'm sure that any of the
Chris Travers wrote:
Here is a paper I have written for the purposes of providing some
additional educational material for the MySQL crowd.
Here's my contribution:
Why I choose PostgreSQL (PostgreSQL in 21 Seconds)
I choose referential integrity, meaning my lookups always work.
I choose
, Stored Procedures, PHP. was: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL
Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
Rod K [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Thomas wrote:
Much of the populatity of MySQL seems to stem from PHPs out-of-the-box
support for it.
This is incorrect. The embedded mysql client library
Note: I am a php developer and I love it, but...
In dealing with web applications and frontends to database or
even just a dynamic web site PHP has every bit the power and ability that
Java does and the development time is way down.
Uh, how about threads. I know that you don't need them much
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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and CommentsRegarding the
learning curve issue, maybe people can recommend their favorite books. I
recommend SQL Unleashed (I forget
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
Now many
consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can't speak for
anywhere else) and finding complex stocktrading systems, inventory
systems, CRM systems, and others, all written in
Title: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Advocacy, Thoughts and Comments
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Chris Travers wrote:
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
Now many
consultant/developer/sys-admins like myself are going to client site on
a contract (this is especially true in the UK, I can't speak
On 29/11/2003 16:24 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
A programmer that doesn't document stuff needs to find a new job :-)
Agreed. So you're replaced him and inherited a documentation-free
application. How many favours has he done you by squirrelling away section
of business logic in the database?
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 04:37, cnliou wrote:
Jason Tesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
Ohh! Really?
Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
programmers!
I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
tiny database on a DBMS having
HI All,
I'm glad that this thread prompted some thoughtful response. I think
one of my main points I was trying to make, Jason hit the nail on the
head. The article to which I was referring uses a great example which I
have experienced many times before, but in order to grasp this, PHP et
Further to this post, what might actually work is to convince O' Reilly
(since they have PostgreSQL book/s) to do some articles like they have
for PG, but making full use of the PG database. For instance, building
a simple data-warehouse using PG. Articles that show off an OSS
On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
triggers in the logic (PHP) if I
Paul Thomas wrote:
On 28/11/2003 17:10 Jason Tesser wrote:
[snip]
MySQL cannot even handle
sub-queries yet. I also use Python for standalone interfaces to
the data.
Why should I not be able to use the same views and triggers etc
in there
that I use for my web apps. PHP is
From: Paul Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Stored procedures can be a 2-edged sword. They can lead to business logic
being scattered between the persistence layer and the business layer.
Thats not good for maintaining the application 3 years down the line.
Triggers can also cause maintenance
On 27/11/2003 09:19 Tony wrote:
Hi All,
I've just been reading an article in PHP Architect magazine
(http://www.phparch.com) which is the cover story for October called
Migrating from MySQL to PostgreSQL. I must say that this is a highly
compelling article, especially for me, and is aimed at
hi,
huge snip
Maybe there's not such a need for the advanced features of PostgreSQL
amongst PHP programmers as you seem to believe. Most of the PHP stuff I've
seen is read-only content display stuff and that doesn't really require a
top-notch RDBMS; a more limited database should also be
Jason Tesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MySQL cannot even handle sub-queries yet.
Ohh! Really?
Allow me to pay my highest respect to the genius mySQL
programmers!
I completely have no clue on how to construct any single
tiny database on a DBMS having no sub-query capability.
Being too dumb, I solicit
Jason Tesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I completely disagree. I do a lot of programming with PHP and the
features
of Postgres come in handy. Let me give you an example of just some
basic things. Triggers! Why should I have to write insert and update
triggers in the logic (PHP) if I can
Hi All,
I've just been reading an article in PHP Architect magazine
(http://www.phparch.com) which is the cover story for October called
Migrating from MySQL to PostgreSQL. I must say that this is a highly
compelling article, especially for me, and is aimed at programmers that
aren't
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