On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 01:43:52PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Absolutely. The point of quoting previous messages is not to replicate
>> the entire thread in each message; we have archives for that. The point
>> is to
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 01:43:52PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Absolutely. The point of quoting previous messages is not to replicate
> the entire thread in each message; we have archives for that. The point
> is to *briefly* remind readers what it is that you're responding to.
> If you can't be
George:
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 2:23 AM, George Neuner wrote:
> I agree 100%. But excessive brevity can make it so a reader can't
> follow the conversation. Users of web forums often assume *you* can
> easily look back up the thread because *they* can. In my experience,
Tom Lane schrieb am 11.05.2017 um 19:43:
> Bottom posting without trimming is just an awful combination:
> whatever you do, don't do that.
Amen to that.
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Alvaro Herrera writes:
> George Neuner wrote:
>> I agree 100%. But excessive brevity can make it so a reader can't
>> follow the conversation. Users of web forums often assume *you* can
>> easily look back up the thread because *they* can. In my experience,
>> it
George Neuner wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 13:43:52 -0400, Tom Lane
> wrote:
> >Personally, when I've scrolled down through a couple of pages of quoted
> >and re-quoted text and see no sign of it ending any time soon, I tend
> >to stop reading.
>
> I agree 100%. But
On Thu, 11 May 2017 13:43:52 -0400, Tom Lane
wrote:
>... The point of quoting previous messages is not to replicate
>the entire thread in each message; we have archives for that. The point
>is to *briefly* remind readers what it is that you're responding to.
>If you can't be
On 12/05/17 05:04, Francisco Olarte wrote:
Slightly unrelated...
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Gavin Flower
wrote:
It is normal on this list not to top post, but rather to add comments at the
end (so people can see the context) - though interspersed comments
Francisco Olarte writes:
> Slightly unrelated...
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Gavin Flower
> wrote:
>> It is normal on this list not to top post, but rather to add comments at the
>> end (so people can see the context) - though
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Francisco Olarte
wrote:
> Slightly unrelated...
>
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>
>
> Full quoting ( I mean the people which even quotes others signatures )
> is especially ugly, combined with top posting I feel it as insulting (
> to me it feels as 'you do not
Bruce Momjian wrote:
I do top-post if I am asking _about_ the email, rather than addressing
its content, like Is this a TODO item? You don't want to trim the
email because it has context that might be needed for the reply, and
bottom-posting just makes it harder to find my question, and the
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Don't put this one on me :). This is a community thing. AndrewS reply
aside, if you review the will of the community on this you will see
that top posting is frowned upon.
I will be the first to step up and pick a fight when I think the
community is being dumb (just
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
We run this list in English, note. Is that because it's better than Latin?
No: it's because more of the participants like it that way. I bet if we had
a lot of Latin speakers, we'd have made a different decision. And yes,
there's a certain amount of circularity in such
Ron St-Pierre wrote:
I agree that top-posting can sometimes be easier to read. However, from
the perspective of someone who *often* searches the archives for answers
it is usually *much* easier to find a complete problem/solution set when
the responses are bottom posted and/or interleaved.
On 12/12/2007, Stephen Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am subscribed to some other technical mailing lists on which the
standard is top posting. Those people claim that filing through
interleaved quotes or scrolling to the bottom just to see a sentence or
two is a waste of their time. It is
Gregory Stark wrote:
We're not goldfish, we can remember the topic of discussion for at least a few
hours.
So can Goldfish. Apparently they have a 3-month+ memory.
http://nootropics.com/intelligence/smartfish.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(season_1)#Goldfish_Memory
With a
Peter Childs wrote:
On 12/12/2007, *Stephen Cook* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am subscribed to some other technical mailing lists on which the
standard is top posting. Those people claim that filing through
interleaved quotes or scrolling to the bottom
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:43:44AM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
O.k. this might be a bit snooty but frankly it is almost 2008. If you
are still a top poster, you obviously don't care about the people's
content that you are replying to, to have enough wits to not top
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On a mailing list, perhaps one can argue that the conventions simply have to
be followed. But I know I find it pretty annoying to get 36 lines of quoted
text followed by something like, No: see the manual, section x.y.z.
That's because the real sin
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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Thomas Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. Obviously there is convention, and I will post in the style
generally accepted in the list, but to me it always made more sense
to top
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Thomas Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. Obviously there is convention, and I will post in the style
generally accepted in the list, but to me it always made more sense
to top post. If you're keeping up on
Scott Marlowe wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 11:41 AM, Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It certainly isn't a crime. But it's a bit like thread hijacking in the
sense that a well-formed inline posting is more likely to attract
intelligent replies. I don't think that I'm the only one who
Collin Kidder wrote:
Scott Marlowe wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 11:41 AM, Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you quoted
above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post. Anything else is
just being a spoiled baby who
Thomas Hart wrote:
I agree. Obviously there is convention, and I will post in the
style generally accepted in the list, but to me it always made more
sense to top post. If you're keeping up on the conversation, then
the relevant information is right there, and if you weren't, it's
not
John D. Burger wrote:
Thomas Hart wrote:
I agree. Obviously there is convention, and I will post in the style
generally accepted in the list, but to me it always made more sense
to top post. If you're keeping up on the conversation, then the
relevant information is right there, and if you
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would argue that this message is harder to read than if I'd just replied
at the top. It's pointlessly long -- but without including everything, you
wouldn't have all the context, and you might have missed something.
We're not goldfish, we can
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:44:31PM +, Gregory Stark wrote:
Seriously, do you have any trouble following the discussion even though I
only clipped two sentences of your message? If you did would you have any
trouble finding the original message to reread it?
No, but (1) I have been doing
Thomas Hart wrote:
As an illustration, which helps you understand the preceding
paragraph better, the extract above, or the mess below?
You raise some good points, and I agree with them. However if you
want to have an intelligent conversation, try not to load it with
questions like Do
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you quoted
above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post. Anything else is
just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor issues. If all the
energy spent crying about top posting were used to fuel
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor
issues. If all the energy spent
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor
issues. If all the energy spent crying about top posting
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor
issues. If all the energy spent crying about top posting
I felt I was 'responding in kind' wrt 'it really irritates me when
people cry like 4 year olds about top posting. It's not that bad, get
over it.' posting. My apologies if I've taken it to a level of rude
that it had not already reached.
I suppose that the post was probably directed
Collin Kidder wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor
issues. If all the energy spent
On Dec 11, 2007 2:58 PM, Collin Kidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal
On Dec 11, 2007 1:01 PM, Collin Kidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott Marlowe wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 11:41 AM, Leif B. Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It certainly isn't a crime. But it's a bit like thread hijacking in the
sense that a well-formed inline posting is more likely to
I agree with Joshua on this point. It's entirely possible to discuss
this without resorting to immaturity. If you make a decent point, then
diminish it by cursing or insulting everybody here, you've lost the
point and it's effectiveness entirely.
Yes, once again, I apologize. At times I
On Dec 11, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Collin Kidder wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with
minor
In response to Collin Kidder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Geoffrey wrote:
Collin Kidder wrote:
I have to suffer through dealing with people like the two of you
quoted above. You can deal with people who'd like to top post.
Anything else is just being a spoiled baby who can't deal with minor
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Gregory Stark wrote:
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would argue that this message is harder to read than if I'd just
replied
at the top. It's pointlessly long -- but without including
everything, you
wouldn't have all the context, and you might
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Collin Kidder wrote:
I believe that my conforming to the rule shows that I am willing to
cater to the wishes of the overly anal people on this list. That they
cannot allow any deviation from their narrow mindset shows you that the
real problem we've been talking about is
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 16:11, Scott Marlowe wrote:
snip
read the old
messages in this thread, you'll see that I too said it was perfectly
acceptable some times. Things like Thanks, that solved it! are fine
top posted, although you really should crop the majority of the
message you're
Thomas Hart wrote:
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
I don't think top posting is always the crime it's made to be (and I
get a
little tired of lectures to others about it on these lists).
A
I agree. Obviously there is convention, and I will post in the style
generally accepted in the list, but to
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:00:00 -0600
Scott Marlowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're certainly not. I can't tell you how many times I've
carefully replied to someone with inline quoting, only to get some
top post response. I then ask them politely not to top post,
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