Betr: Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data

2005-03-20 Thread perico
That's what I tought the problem was, but I created  a table afterwards without
inheritence. Could it have something to do with the max size of the schema
or oid's?


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Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:55:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephan Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data


On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi There,

 I've a problem with inserting data and I can't figure out what the problem
 is:


 what did I do:


 1. I've a master table containing about 4 records. A count(*) provides
 me the exact number.

 2. I've create a table based on from the master. I copied a fraction from
 the master into the new table using a where clause (insert into ... select
 * from ... where a = b . The number of records copied is about 2553.

Define based on. Do you mean CREATE TABLE AS or perhaps that the new
table inherits from the old one?  If the latter, you will see the rows in
the parent as well as the child if you do a select from the parent.

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Re: Betr: Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data

2005-03-20 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I tought the problem was, but I created  a table afterwards 
 without
 inheritence. Could it have something to do with the max size of the schema
 or oid's?

I can't think of a reason it would, so can you send a self-contained
full example?

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump fails with socket_not_open

2005-03-20 Thread Sarah Ewen
Hi there Tom, thanks for your reply.
pg_dump: socket not open
pg_dump: SQL command to dump the contents of table activity_log
failed: PQendcopy() failed.
pg_dump: Error message from server: socket not open
pg_dump: The command was: COPY public.activity_log (bunch of columns
TO  stdout

Is this repeatable?  What shows up in the postmaster's log when it
happens?  What platform is this on, and what version of Postgres?
This is postgresql-7.4.6-1.FC2.2 running on RedHat Fedora Core 2.
The logs don't reveal anything, and it happens consistently!
It is a little disconcerting..by the sounds of things this is a fairly 
rare thing to see?

Sarah.
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Re: [GENERAL] plpython function problem workaround

2005-03-20 Thread Sim Zacks
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I've been out for a couple days.

While certain things may be permissible in a language, I think it is also
important to look at the context at which the language is applied and make a
determination if it will practically turn up in relevant code. If the answer
is no, then I think it would be acceptable to add a note that the postgresql
python implementation does not accept implicit newlines and any newlines
must be explicit (the text \r\n)

That being said, the only place I can see wanting to use a newline is for a
situation where you would want to either do a select statement with a
multiline where such as
   results = plpy.execute(...where textfield= 'multi
line
string'...)
or if you returned the results and wanted to do the same type of thing.
if results[0][textfield]==multi
line
string:
...

However, this example assumes that the client writing the functions and the
client inserting the data are always using the same OS, because if a linux
client inserted the data and a windows client had written the function, it
wouldn't receive any results, because postgresql sees the newline as valid
characters. hat being the case I would say that while it is entirely
possible to put multiline quoted text in  python code, it would be
inappropriate in a postgresql environment.

Sim


Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sim Zacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I've been looking at the possibility of having a planned CR in the
source
  code and I don't see a case where it would happen.

 Does python actually disallow newlines in string literals?  That is

 x = 'foo
 bar'

 Whether you think this is good style is not the question --- is it
 allowed by the language?

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Re: [GENERAL] Installing PostgreSQL in Debian

2005-03-20 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Michael Ben-Nes wrote:
 I recomend you to compile PG from source so you can use the new 8.0.1

PostgreSQL 8.0.1 is available in the Debian experimental suite, package 
name postgresql-8.0.

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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tony Caduto wrote:
 Hi,
 I read in a article/interview on http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/3677.html
 that work was being done on improving/adding support for sql standard 
 compliant stored procs/functions
 
 Does anyone know exactly what that means?
 
 Does it mean that Postgres will have stored procs that can have input 
 and output params?

Yes.

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Re: [GENERAL] Encoding-related errors when moving from 7.3 to 8.0.1

2005-03-20 Thread Carlos Moreno
Hi Alvaro, thanks for your reply!
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
psql:db_backup.sql:1548: ERROR:  invalid byte sequence for encoding 
UNICODE: 0xe12020
CONTEXT:  COPY country, line 5, column namespanish: 
Canad?
Hmm.  The sequence looks like latin1 interpreted as utf8.  This seems
the inverse of the problem reported (and solved) here
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-es-ayuda/2005-03/msg00491.php
Maybe you should try sticking a
SET client_encoding TO latin1;
at the beggining of the dump file.  
One thing worries me, though.  With all of the previous versions
of postgresql (I think when we started to use it in our system,
it was version 7.1), I have never worried about any encoding
issues.  Our users are mostly Spanish-speaking, and they register
to our system via web-based interfaces;  virtually 100% of them
use Windows (and perhaps most of them Windows in Spanish, with
a Spanish keyboard).
So, our system (CGI's written in C++ running on a Linux server)
simply takes whatever the user gives (properly validated and
escaped) and throws it in the database.  We've never encountered
any problem  (well, or perhaps it's the opposite?  Perhaps we've
always been living with the problem without realizing it?)
I worry now that if I needed to put a set client_encoding
statement to make the insert or COPY statements work, does
that mean that I should modify each and every program that I
have that interacts with the database, and add a set client
encoding statement before whatever other statement(s) we
execute?
Or is this client_encoding setting something that gets attached
to the database (or the tables) itself?
Where can I find more documentation on these issues?  I'd like
to get a deeper understanding, to avoid any future problems.
Why are you using CHAR(n) fields anyway?  It should probably be better
if you used VARCHAR(n) ...
Una de esas cosas que pasan hasta en las mejores familias  ;-)
(I was also surprised when noticing the bunch of spaces at the
end -- I would have thought that we were using varchars in
fields like that one)
Thanks again!
Cheers,
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Betr: Re: Betr: Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data

2005-03-20 Thread perico
Hi Stephan,

I figured out what happened:

The master table contained duplicates, but the insert statement seems to
be very smart by selecting just the unique ones.

Peter
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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:46:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephan Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Betr: Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I tought the problem was, but I created  a table afterwards
without
 inheritence. Could it have something to do with the max size of the schema
 or oid's?

I can't think of a reason it would, so can you send a self-contained
full example?

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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tony Caduto wrote:
Hi,
I read in a article/interview on http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/3677.html
that work was being done on improving/adding support for sql standard
compliant stored procs/functions
Does anyone know exactly what that means?
Does it mean that Postgres will have stored procs that can have input
and output params?
Yes.
I think that keyword here is 'sql standard compliant', not stored procedures
itself, because we have them for a long time and with support of dozen
languages. Or I miss something ?


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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tony Caduto wrote:
Hi,
I read in a article/interview on 
http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/3677.html
that work was being done on improving/adding support for sql standard
compliant stored procs/functions

Does anyone know exactly what that means?
Does it mean that Postgres will have stored procs that can have input
and output params?

Yes.

I think that keyword here is 'sql standard compliant', not stored 
procedures
itself, because we have them for a long time and with support of dozen
languages. Or I miss something ?
What I read from this is, when will PostgreSQL have stored procedures 
like Oracle. Thus the IN/OUT parameter statement.

My understanding is that 8.1 will have a much more mature implementation of
stored procedures versus UDFs (Which we have had forever).
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake




Regards,
Oleg
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Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump fails with socket_not_open

2005-03-20 Thread Tom Lane
Sarah Ewen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Is this repeatable?  What shows up in the postmaster's log when it
 happens?  What platform is this on, and what version of Postgres?

 This is postgresql-7.4.6-1.FC2.2 running on RedHat Fedora Core 2.

 The logs don't reveal anything, and it happens consistently!

The 7.4 RPMs' startup script sends the postmaster stderr to /dev/null
:-(.  To find out what the server sees as the problem, you need to
either hack the startup script to send stderr someplace more useful,
or adjust the configuration to send the postmaster's log messages to
syslog.  I would recommend doing one or the other since it's quite
likely that the server-side view of the problem is different from what
the client sees.

 It is a little disconcerting..by the sounds of things this is a fairly 
 rare thing to see?

Yes.  I would like to get to the bottom of it.

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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tony Caduto wrote:
Hi,
I read in a article/interview on 
http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/62/3677.html
that work was being done on improving/adding support for sql standard
compliant stored procs/functions

Does anyone know exactly what that means?
Does it mean that Postgres will have stored procs that can have input
and output params?

Yes.

I think that keyword here is 'sql standard compliant', not stored 
procedures
itself, because we have them for a long time and with support of dozen
languages. Or I miss something ?
What I read from this is, when will PostgreSQL have stored procedures like 
Oracle. Thus the IN/OUT parameter statement.
I mean original Josh's interview
An example of what people are working on right now is SQL standard compliant 
stored procedures. We have procedures now, but they're not compliant with the 
standard syntax. Nothing about Oracle unless Oracle has standard compliant
stored procedures.

My understanding is that 8.1 will have a much more mature implementation of
stored procedures versus UDFs (Which we have had forever).
What's the difference between UDF and stored procedure  ?

Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake




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[GENERAL] 26h Query.

2005-03-20 Thread Jason Leach
hi,

I'm having a bit of trouble with my SQL query. It takes about 26h to
run on a 3Ghz PC.  I'd really like to speed this up.

I put this query in a loop to iterate over 20 tables (each table
including summary has 400k records), each time the table name changes.
I this case it's m_alal.  Each table has an identical primary key
ECP_TAG but the RATING column is different.  What I doing is:

Classifying RATING has High, Moderate, Low No Data or Nill.  Then
counting how many tables classify the PK in one of these categories.
This result is kept in my summary table. I end up with a summary table
like:

ECP_CODE | HIGH | MODERATE | LOW ...
M3456 | 3   | 4  | 7  ..

Because I have 20 tables,  if you were to add up along each row it
would sum up to 20.

Anyone have some suggestion on speeding this up.




update public.summary
set
 MAX_VAL = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING  public.summary.MAX_VAL THEN
public.m_alal.RATING
   ELSE public.summary.MAX_VAL
   END,
 MIN_VAL = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING  public.summary.MIN_VAL THEN
public.m_alal.RATING
   ELSE public.summary.MIN_VAL
   END,
 NO_DATA = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING = 0 THEN public.summary.NO_DATA + 1
   END,
 NILL = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING = -1 THEN public.summary.NILL + 1
   ELSE public.summary.NILL
   END,
 HIGH = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING  75 THEN public.summary.HIGH + 1
   ELSE public.summary.HIGH
   END,
 MODERATE = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING  30 THEN public.summary.MODERATE + 1
   ELSE public.summary.MODERATE
   END,
 LOW = CASE
   WHEN public.m_alal.RATING  25 THEN public.summary.LOW + 1
   ELSE public.summary.LOW
   END
 FROM public.m_alal
 WHERE public.summary.ECP_TAG = public.m_alal.ECP_TAG AND
 public.m_alal.RATING IS NOT NULL;

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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake

My understanding is that 8.1 will have a much more mature 
implementation of
stored procedures versus UDFs (Which we have had forever).

What's the difference between UDF and stored procedure  ?
Here are a couple of GGIYF references:
http://builder.com.com/5100-6388-1045463.html
http://blogs.pingpoet.com/vbguru/archive/2004/04/29/535.aspx
They are similar but they offer different functionality. At least in
the sense of the other databases.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake




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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

My understanding is that 8.1 will have a much more mature implementation 
of
stored procedures versus UDFs (Which we have had forever).

What's the difference between UDF and stored procedure  ?
Here are a couple of GGIYF references:
http://builder.com.com/5100-6388-1045463.html
http://blogs.pingpoet.com/vbguru/archive/2004/04/29/535.aspx
They are similar but they offer different functionality. At least in
the sense of the other databases.
Hmm, the only real difference I see - is that SP are precompiled.
I think we should clearly outline what is SP and what is UDF and do we
are working on SP or just improving and extending our functions.

Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake




Sincerely,
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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Tom Lane
Oleg Bartunov oleg@sai.msu.su writes:
 Hmm, the only real difference I see - is that SP are precompiled.
 I think we should clearly outline what is SP and what is UDF and do we
 are working on SP or just improving and extending our functions.

AFAIR, the only person who's actually stated any intention to work on
this for 8.1 was me, and what I intend to do is just enough to support
OUT and INOUT parameters in plpgsql.  This is mostly because Red Hat
wants to run some test suites that require those capabilities.

There was some discussion of other ideas in the pgsql-hackers list
a few weeks ago (see the archives) but I don't think anyone is stepping
up to the plate to do them.

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Re: [GENERAL] question about 8.1 and stored procedures

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

My understanding is that 8.1 will have a much more mature 
implementation of
stored procedures versus UDFs (Which we have had forever).

What's the difference between UDF and stored procedure  ?
Here are a couple of GGIYF references:
http://builder.com.com/5100-6388-1045463.html
http://blogs.pingpoet.com/vbguru/archive/2004/04/29/535.aspx
They are similar but they offer different functionality. At least in
the sense of the other databases.
Hmm, the only real difference I see - is that SP are precompiled.
I think we should clearly outline what is SP and what is UDF and do we
are working on SP or just improving and extending our functions.
I always thought that the big difference was that a SP can start and end 
top level transactions whereas UDFs must execute within the scope of a 
transaction started by the caller. The above article doesn't mention 
this at all.

Regards,
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[GENERAL] Tracking row updates

2005-03-20 Thread Alex Adriaanse
[I've tried to send this message to pgsql-general several times now,
but even though I'm subscribed to it I never saw the message show up
in the mailing list, so I'm trying to send it from a different account
now.  If you get several copies of this message, I apologize.]

I'm working on an application where we have a central database server 
and a bunch of clients that are disconnected most of the time, need to 
maintain a local copy of the central database.  The client databases are 
based on One$DB since it has to be lightweight.  The client does not 
access the server database directly, but through a server application.  
Periodically (about once a week) the clients will connect to the central 
database and retrieve updates made to the central database so that their 
local database will be up-to-date, as well as send local updates back to 
the server.  A lot of these clients will be connecting through a dial-up 
connection, and some of the tables can get quite large, so just 
retrieving all rows in a table is not an option when synchronizing.

This is how I currently have things designed on the server side:

Each table has a revision column, which is set to a sequence value every 
time a row is inserted or updated (deletes are translated into updates 
that hide the row by setting an enabled column to false), as you can 
see in the following statements:

CREATE TABLE codes (
id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY,
created TIMESTAMP DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP NOT NULL,
updated TIMESTAMP,
revision SERIAL,
enabled BOOLEAN DEFAULT TRUE NOT NULL,
name VARCHAR(8) NOT NULL,
description VARCHAR(50)
) WITHOUT OIDS;

CREATE INDEX codes_revision_idx ON codes (revision);

CREATE FUNCTION row_update_codes() RETURNS trigger AS '
BEGIN
NEW.revision = nextval(''codes_revision_seq'');
NEW.updated = current_timestamp;
RETURN NEW;
END;
' LANGUAGE plpgsql;

CREATE TRIGGER update_row BEFORE INSERT OR UPDATE ON codes
FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE row_update_codes();

CREATE RULE delete_row AS
ON DELETE TO codes DO INSTEAD
UPDATE codes SET enabled = FALSE WHERE id = OLD.id;

To fetch all updates since the last synchronization, the client would 
calculated a value for $lastrevision by running this query on its local 
database:
SELECT max(revision) AS lastrevision FROM codes;

It would then fetch all updated rows by running this query against the 
server:
SELECT * FROM codes WHERE revision  $lastrevision;

This seems to work, except there exists a race condition.  Consider the 
following series of events (in chronological order):

   1. Initially, in the codes table there's a row with id=1, revision=1,
  and a row with id=2, revision=2
   2. Client A begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=1,
  resulting in revision=3 for that row
   3. Client B begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=2,
  resulting in revision=4 for that row
   4. Client B commits the transaction
   5. Client C (which has $lastrevision=2 in its local database)
  synchronizes with the database by doing SELECT * FROM codes WHERE
  revision  2; and retrieves client B's update to the row with
  id=2, revision=4 (it doesn't yet see the update from client A)
   6. Client A commits the transaction
   7. Some time later, Client C synchronizes with the database again. 
  $lastrevision for its database is now 4, so doing SELECT * FROM
  codes WHERE revision  4; does not retrieve any rows.  So client C
  never sees client A's update to the row with id=1

Essentially, the race condition occurs when the order of clients 
committing transactions (i.e. the updates becoming visible to other 
clients) differs from the order of clients generating sequence values.  
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to avoid this race condition, or 
maybe a more elegant way to synchronize the clients with the server?

I was thinking about doing the following to solve this problem.  I'd 
create a new table, e.g. codes_active_txns, with a sequence_value 
column.  Before the server application starts any transaction involving 
an insert/update/delete to codes, it would retrieve 
nextval('codes_revision_seq') as $seq_val, insert it into 
codes_active_txns, commit, begin another transaction, and do its 
inserts/updates, setting revision = $seq_val for each row that it 
touches.  Once it's done with the table updates, it would commit the 
transaction, and delete the row containing $seq_val from 
codes_active_txns, and commit that.

The server would calculate $lastrevision with:
SELECT max(revision) FROM codes WHERE revision  (SELECT
COALESCE(min(sequence_value), 2147483647) FROM
codes_active_txns);
and send this to the client.  $lastrevision would contain the highest 
revision for which there are no active (non-committed) transactions with 
a revision lower than $lastrevision.  The client would save this value, 
and pass it back to the server during the next 

Re: [GENERAL] 26h Query.

2005-03-20 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:10:14AM -0800, Jason Leach wrote:
 hi,
 
 I'm having a bit of trouble with my SQL query. It takes about 26h to
 run on a 3Ghz PC.  I'd really like to speed this up.
 
 I put this query in a loop to iterate over 20 tables (each table
 including summary has 400k records), each time the table name changes.
 I this case it's m_alal.  Each table has an identical primary key
 ECP_TAG but the RATING column is different.  What I doing is:

You're going to need to post the EXPLAIN ANALYZE output if you expect
any meaningful response...
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[GENERAL] pg_dump fails with socket_not_open

2005-03-20 Thread Sarah Ewen
Hi there folks,

I've just had pg_dump fail on me for the first time ever, and I'm not sure why.

It generates 24MB of dump before bombing out with:

pg_dump: socket not open
pg_dump: SQL command to dump the contents of table activity_log
failed: PQendcopy() failed.
pg_dump: Error message from server: socket not open
pg_dump: The command was: COPY public.activity_log (bunch of columns
TO  stdout

Are there any common reasons for seeing this? 

I'm fairly sure that the machine is ok hardware wise - any pointers appreciated.

Thanks,

Sarah.

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Re: [GENERAL] Question insert data

2005-03-20 Thread Marcin Piotr Grondecki
Dnia Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 06:36:27PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisal(a/o):
 1. I've a master table containing about 4 records. A count(*) provides
 me the exact number.
 2. I've create a table based on from the master. I copied a fraction from
 the master into the new table using a where clause (insert into ... select
 * from ... where a = b . The number of records copied is about 2553.
 Issueing the same select statement on the master table gives me a list of
 5106 which is twice the number of copied records.
select  only  (read queries-table-expressions.html from PostgreSQL
documentation, then read rest of documentation).

 Did someone have this problem before?
 I'm using 8.0 Windows XP en the pgAdmin III , r1.2.0
I don't have any XP problem ; (sorry, lame joke)

 I even tried the same on the command line!
me too :
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Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2005-03-20 Thread Woodchuck Bill
tm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

 Woodchuck Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The proponent certainly left a bad taste in my mouth after his
 little ... 
 
 Too much information.
 

LOL. Get your mind out of the gutter. ;-)

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[GENERAL] CFV: comp.databases.postgresql

2005-03-20 Thread Bill Aten
 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 unmoderated group comp.databases.postgresql

Newsgroups line:
comp.databases.postgresql   PGSQL Relational Database Management System.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Apr 2005.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Votetaker: Bill Aten [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RATIONALE: comp.databases.postgresql

To provide a Big-Eight usenet group for users of the PostgreSQL
Relational Database Management System.  Currently there are mailing
lists gated to the public pgsql.* hierarchy.  Issues with mailing
list gateways, and the much larger distribution of the Big-Eight
hierarchy make it extremely desirable to have a PostgreSQL group
in the Big Eight.

CHARTER: comp.databases.postgresql

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GENERAL
* General discussions of PostgreSQL.
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  Management system.
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ADMINISTRATION
* Discussions pertaining to the administration, compilation
  and installation of PostgreSQL.
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* Using PostgreSQL Point in Time Recovery.
* Startup scripts, or scripts that automate PostgreSQL related tasks.

DEVELOPING WITH POSTGRESQL
* Programming using PostgreSQL.
* Developing with PostgreSQL interfaces, including JDBC and ODBC.

SCALABILITY
* PostgreSQL performance, benchmarking and related topics.
* How to use Replication in PostgreSQL.
* Hardware, Software configurations and recommendations for optimal
  PostgreSQL operation.  Examples are x86-64, NUMA, etc.

SECURITY
* Announcements of patches that fix vulnerabilities.
* PostgreSQL Best practices to design and keep PostgreSQL secure.
* SSH, SSL, and the Crypto Contrib packages.

SQL
* Normalization and theory as it applies to PostgreSQL.
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Re: [GENERAL] Statistics with PostgreSQL

2005-03-20 Thread Brent Wood


 Mean is just sum(col)/count(col)

You can also just use avg(col).

Either way, be careful because nulls may not be treated as you want for
such calculations.

The stats package R can access Postgres databases, and can be used for
robust statistical analyses of the data.

See:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/rdbi/


Cheers,

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[GENERAL] Tsearch2 index silently fails on PG 7.3.2

2005-03-20 Thread Justin L. Kennedy

The short question is why does this:

select to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '') ||' '|| 
coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from link_items;

give different results than this:

update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '') 
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));
select linksfti from link_items;


Here are more details:

I am working with Tsearch2 on a server with version string:
PostgreSQL 7.3.2 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC 2.96

I have a table with the following schema:
CREATE TABLE link_items
(
  link_id int4,
  name varchar(255),
  url varchar(255),
  description text,
  spanish int4,
  spanishurl varchar(255),
  lastmod date,
  visible int4,
  state varchar(25),
  promisepractice int4,
  keywords text,
  linksfti tsvector
) 
WITH OIDS;
ALTER TABLE link_items OWNER TO gate;

I want linksfti to hold the search engine's indexing data (indexed on 
'name', 'description', and 'keywords'), so I run the following command:

update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '') 
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));

The results are pretty empty.  Most have empty strings for data, other 
only index one or two items in the 3 input columns.

For example, after running, my table looks like:
name;description;keywords;linksfti
American Occupational Therapy Association (AOTA) ;Nationally recognized 
professional association for over 60,000 occupational therapists and 
occupational therapy assistants. ;Rehabilitation Professional 
Associations and Councils;'60':1 '000':2
American Physical Therapy Association (APTA);Represents more than 
70,000 physical therapists, physical therapist assistants, and students of 
physical therapy. ;Rehabilitation Professional Associations and 
Councils;'70':1 '000':2
U.S. Deaf Ski  Snowboard Association;Winter sports for people who are 
deaf  relevant links.;Recreation Winter Sports;'u.s':1
Texas Adaptive Aquatics;Adaptive water skiing program for people with 
physical and/or mental disabilities. ;Recreation Water 
Sports;'and/or':1
World T.E.A.M. Sports;Inclusive sports activities.;Recreation Team 
Sports;'t.e.a.m':1
Tennessee;Official State Web Site;Legal State Agencies;
Project Vote Smart;By entering zip code, users get list of all their 
elected officials. Links to elected officials' and candidates' web sites, 
etc. ;Government / Public Policy General;
TRIPOD Captioned Films;Captioned Films for people who are deaf or hard 
of hearing.;Recreation Captioned Movies;


When don't do it as an UPDATE and just print the contents to the screen, I 
get the full expected output:

select name, description, keywords, to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, 
'') ||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from 
link_items;

United States of America Deaf Track and Field;Promotes training of  
track athletes who are deaf and coaches who are deaf and hearing. 
;Recreation Track;'of':3,11 'and':7,17,22 'are':15,20 'who':14,19 
'deaf':5,16,21 'hear':23 'unit':1 'coach':18 'field':8 'state':2 
'track':6,12,25 'train':10 'athlet':13 'promot':9 'america':4 
'recreat':24
Adventure Pursuit, Inc.;Adventure Pursuit is a group of volunteers who 
like spending time with all kinds of people and focus on adventure sports 
like kayaking.;Recreation Water Sports;'a':7 'is':6 'of':9,18 'on':22 
'all':16 'and':20 'inc':3 'who':11 'kind':17 'like':12,25 'time':14 
'with':15 'focus':21 'group':8 'kayak':26 'peopl':19 'spend':13 
'sport':24,29 'water':28 'volunt':10 'pursuit':2,5 'recreat':27 
'adventur':1,4,23


Using pgAdminIII, I copied (default backup/restore) the database from our 
production server and put in on my personal desktop (Windows 2000, PgSQL 
8.0.0) and re-ran the update query and it gave proper results.

Is it a known issue with 7.3.2, and is there a workaround without 
upgrading the server to 8.0.0?  We will upgrade in a few months, but we 
can't take the server offline now because we have too many websites that 
depend on it.

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[GENERAL] no IF - am I missing something ?

2005-03-20 Thread Richard Crawley
Hello all.
In the tail end of converting an app from MySQL to psql. I have this code :
snip
IF(days_complete = -120, job_price,0) AS Days_120,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -119 AND -90, job_price,0) AS Days_90,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -89 AND -60, job_price,0) AS Days_60,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -59 AND -30, job_price,0) AS Days_30,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -29 AND 0, job_price,0) AS current
snip
It builds an aged debt report, and there are similar versions that SUM(IF 
..) to give me debt by customer etc.
All the questions I've seen about IF end up with people saying use CASE and 
I'm sure it would work. But do you lot really use 5 lines for each IF ? Doesn't it seem 
kind of ugly ? Or do you all secretly write a quick IF function ?
I'm interested, and I half suspect that I'm missing a more elegant solution.

thanks
Rich
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[GENERAL] Install error at rpm package + Fedora Core3

2005-03-20 Thread Edgar Amorim
Folks,

I'm a kind new bye with linux  related stuffs. I'm trying to install PG on a FC3 using "postgresql-8.0.1-2PGDG.i686.rpm", but after to issue rpm -ivh and the rpm file I've got a message telling it "error: Failed dependencies: libpq.so.3 is need". I take a look at the documentation and it seems the libpq is the PG API, so shouldn't be built at install time? How can I solve that or where should I look for in order to find out an answer?

Thank you so much.

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Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2005-03-20 Thread Woodchuck Bill
Vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Marc G. Fournier wrote in Msg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 it can't *hurt* to have the group ...
 
 I respectfully disagree with you, Marc.  :)
 
 The PGSQL* hierarchy is now well distributed, and there is no need
 for a comp.* group.  If anything, the ungated comp.* group will
 confuse newbies into thinking that that is the best forum for
 PostGreSQL advice ... instead of the PGSQL.* hierarchy.  None of
 the developers and power users of these lists will be answering
 questions in the comp.* group, if created, so it would be better
 to not create the group at all. 

I still haven't decided which way to vote. I'm lingering in between NO 
and ABSTAIN. I was originally in favor of a single, non-gated 
Postgresql newsgroup in the comp* hierarchy. I'm no longer sure if it 
would be a good thing or not. 

The proponent certainly left a bad taste in my mouth after his little 
crossposting stunt - but I will still vote on the *proposal*, and not 
the *proponent*. 

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[GENERAL] Need Help on ODBC Driver testing........

2005-03-20 Thread Bhabani Sankar Jena
Hello
I need Help on ODBC driver testing. We have written ODBC
driver for our new
SQL engine. I have to test ODBC driver in linux only. I need
some web links
where i can get some free codes in linux for ODBC testing.
Can you refer me
any sites or weblinks where i can get some ODBC driver test codes?
Can i get  it from Postgresql? I downloaded some source codes
from pgsql,
but it was regression,performance testing and all. But i
couldnt get any
ODBC driver test code.
Can i get it from postgresql?
Plz let me know. Its very urgent and your any types of
sugession will be
very much helpfull to me.
Waiting for yur mail.
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[GENERAL] Tracking row updates - race condition

2005-03-20 Thread Alex Adriaanse
I'm working on an application where we have a central database server 
and a bunch of clients that are disconnected most of the time, need to 
maintain a local copy of the central database.  The client databases are 
based on One$DB since it has to be lightweight.  The client does not 
access the server database directly, but through a server application.  
Periodically (about once a week) the clients will connect to the central 
database and retrieve updates made to the central database so that their 
local database will be up-to-date, as well as send local updates back to 
the server.  A lot of these clients will be connecting through a dial-up 
connection, and some of the tables can get quite large, so just 
retrieving all rows in a table is not an option when synchronizing.

This is how I currently have things designed on the server side:
Each table has a revision column, which is set to a sequence value every 
time a row is inserted or updated (deletes are translated into updates 
that hide the row by setting an enabled column to false), as you can 
see in the following statements:

CREATE TABLE codes (
   id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY,
   created TIMESTAMP DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP NOT NULL,
   updated TIMESTAMP,
   revision SERIAL,
   enabled BOOLEAN DEFAULT TRUE NOT NULL,
   name VARCHAR(8) NOT NULL,
   description VARCHAR(50)
) WITHOUT OIDS;
CREATE INDEX codes_revision_idx ON codes (revision);
CREATE FUNCTION row_update_codes() RETURNS trigger AS '
   BEGIN
   NEW.revision = nextval(''codes_revision_seq'');
   NEW.updated = current_timestamp;
   RETURN NEW;
   END;
' LANGUAGE plpgsql;
CREATE TRIGGER update_row BEFORE INSERT OR UPDATE ON codes
   FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE row_update_codes();
CREATE RULE delete_row AS
   ON DELETE TO codes DO INSTEAD
   UPDATE codes SET enabled = FALSE WHERE id = OLD.id;
To fetch all updates since the last synchronization, the client would 
calculated a value for $lastrevision by running this query on its local 
database:
SELECT max(revision) AS lastrevision FROM codes;

It would then fetch all updated rows by running this query against the 
server:
SELECT * FROM codes WHERE revision  $lastrevision;

This seems to work, except there exists a race condition.  Consider the 
following series of events (in chronological order):

  1. Initially, in the codes table there's a row with id=1, revision=1,
 and a row with id=2, revision=2
  2. Client A begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=1,
 resulting in revision=3 for that row
  3. Client B begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=2,
 resulting in revision=4 for that row
  4. Client B commits the transaction
  5. Client C (which has $lastrevision=2 in its local database)
 synchronizes with the database by doing SELECT * FROM codes WHERE
 revision  2; and retrieves client B's update to the row with
 id=2, revision=4 (it doesn't yet see the update from client A)
  6. Client A commits the transaction
  7. Some time later, Client C synchronizes with the database again. 
 $lastrevision for its database is now 4, so doing SELECT * FROM
 codes WHERE revision  4; does not retrieve any rows.  So client C
 never sees client A's update to the row with id=1

Essentially, the race condition occurs when the order of clients 
committing transactions (i.e. the updates becoming visible to other 
clients) differs from the order of clients generating sequence values.  
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to avoid this race condition, or 
maybe a more elegant way to synchronize the clients with the server?

I was thinking about doing the following to solve this problem.  I'd 
create a new table, e.g. codes_active_txns, with a sequence_value 
column.  Before the server application starts any transaction involving 
an insert/update/delete to codes, it would retrieve 
nextval('codes_revision_seq') as $seq_val, insert it into 
codes_active_txns, commit, begin another transaction, and do its 
inserts/updates, setting revision = $seq_val for each row that it 
touches.  Once it's done with the table updates, it would commit the 
transaction, and delete the row containing $seq_val from 
codes_active_txns, and commit that.

The server would calculate $lastrevision with:
   SELECT max(revision) FROM codes WHERE revision  (SELECT 
COALESCE(min(sequence_value), 2147483647) FROM codes_active_txns);
and send this to the client.  $lastrevision would contain the highest 
revision for which there are no active (non-committed) transactions with 
a revision lower than $lastrevision.  The client would save this value, 
and pass it back to the server during the next synchronization session 
so that the server can figure out what rows it needs to send to the 
client with SELECT * FROM codes WHERE revision  $lastrevision;.  
Occasionally the same row might be sent to the client twice during two 
synchronization sessions, but that's no big deal because that number 
should be low and the client can 

Re: [GENERAL] New user: Windows, Postgresql, Python

2005-03-20 Thread Marco Colombo
Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:46:09PM +, Paul Moore wrote:

The long and short of it is that I believe you just use \n to delimit
lines on Windows, just like anywhere else.

Many thanks -- your test results contain the info we've been seeking.
Thanks a lot Paul.
Micheal, you were right.
It seems python documentation is plain wrong, or I'm not able to
read it at all:
http://docs.python.org/ref/physical.html
A physical line ends in whatever the current platform's convention is for
terminating lines. On Unix, this is the ASCII LF (linefeed) character. On
Windows, it is the ASCII sequence CR LF (return followed by linefeed). On
Macintosh, it is the ASCII CR (return) character.
This is the language _reference_ manual, btw. I'm very surprised to hear
python on windows is so broken.
Anyway, that makes life simpler for us. plpython programs are \n separated,
no matter what platform the server runs on. Client applications just need
to conply, which is what I suggested some time ago. I'm glad to hear
there's nothing to change on the server side.
.TM.
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[GENERAL] Windows and Pg8

2005-03-20 Thread Hicks, Bob
Title: Message



I use AS Tcl 8.4.9 
on Windows and I would like to use Pg8 (since it is now native to Windows). What 
do I need on the Tcl side of things?


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difference."



[GENERAL] Copression

2005-03-20 Thread Stanislaw Tristan
It's a possible to compress traffic between server and client while server 
returns query result?
It's a very actually for dial-up users.
What is solution?

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[GENERAL] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError

2005-03-20 Thread Suma Bhat
Hi,
I'm need to be able to insert a byte[] of size upto 25MB.
With Heap size upto 512m this is failing, with a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError

Any help resolving this issue will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Suma




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[GENERAL] Tsearch vector not stored by update/set

2005-03-20 Thread Justin L. Kennedy
The short question is why does this:

select to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '') ||' '||
coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from link_items;

give different results than this:

update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '')
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));
select linksfti from link_items;


Here are more details:

I am working with Tsearch2 on a server with version string:
PostgreSQL 7.3.2 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC 2.96

I have a table with the following schema:
CREATE TABLE link_items
(
  link_id int4,
  name varchar(255),
  url varchar(255),
  description text,
  spanish int4,
  spanishurl varchar(255),
  lastmod date,
  visible int4,
  state varchar(25),
  promisepractice int4,
  keywords text,
  linksfti tsvector
)
WITH OIDS;
ALTER TABLE link_items OWNER TO gate;

I want linksfti to hold the search engine's indexing data (indexed on
'name', 'description', and 'keywords'), so I run the following command:

update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '')
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));

The results are pretty empty.  Most have empty strings for data, other
only index one or two items in the 3 input columns.

For example, after running, my table looks like:
name;description;keywords;linksfti
American Occupational Therapy Association (AOTA) ;Nationally recognized
professional association for over 60,000 occupational therapists and
occupational therapy assistants. ;Rehabilitation Professional
Associations and Councils;'60':1 '000':2
American Physical Therapy Association (APTA);Represents more than
70,000 physical therapists, physical therapist assistants, and students of
physical therapy. ;Rehabilitation Professional Associations and
Councils;'70':1 '000':2
U.S. Deaf Ski  Snowboard Association;Winter sports for people who are
deaf  relevant links.;Recreation Winter Sports;'u.s':1
Texas Adaptive Aquatics;Adaptive water skiing program for people with
physical and/or mental disabilities. ;Recreation Water
Sports;'and/or':1
World T.E.A.M. Sports;Inclusive sports activities.;Recreation Team
Sports;'t.e.a.m':1
Tennessee;Official State Web Site;Legal State Agencies;
Project Vote Smart;By entering zip code, users get list of all their
elected officials. Links to elected officials' and candidates' web sites,
etc. ;Government / Public Policy General;
TRIPOD Captioned Films;Captioned Films for people who are deaf or hard
of hearing.;Recreation Captioned Movies;


When don't do it as an UPDATE and just print the contents to the screen, I
get the full expected output:

select name, description, keywords, to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name,
'') ||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from
link_items;

United States of America Deaf Track and Field;Promotes training of
track athletes who are deaf and coaches who are deaf and hearing.
;Recreation Track;'of':3,11 'and':7,17,22 'are':15,20 'who':14,19
'deaf':5,16,21 'hear':23 'unit':1 'coach':18 'field':8 'state':2
'track':6,12,25 'train':10 'athlet':13 'promot':9 'america':4
'recreat':24
Adventure Pursuit, Inc.;Adventure Pursuit is a group of volunteers who
like spending time with all kinds of people and focus on adventure sports
like kayaking.;Recreation Water Sports;'a':7 'is':6 'of':9,18 'on':22
'all':16 'and':20 'inc':3 'who':11 'kind':17 'like':12,25 'time':14
'with':15 'focus':21 'group':8 'kayak':26 'peopl':19 'spend':13
'sport':24,29 'water':28 'volunt':10 'pursuit':2,5 'recreat':27
'adventur':1,4,23


Using pgAdminIII, I copied (default backup/restore) the database from our
production server and put in on my personal desktop (Windows 2000, PgSQL
8.0.0) and re-ran the update query and it gave proper results.

Is it a known issue with 7.3.2, and is there a workaround without
upgrading the server to 8.0.0?  We will upgrade in a few months, but we
can't take the server offline now because we have too many websites that
depend on it.



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[GENERAL] Questions about the use of largeobject functions from inside SQL

2005-03-20 Thread Marco Bizzarri
Hi all.
We have a setup with Zope and a remote Postgresql server. We're storing 
blobs in largeobject files.

What we need to do is to be able to do the transfer of blobs between 
Zope and postgres. I thought it was possible to use lo_* functions, by 
creating a largeobject, and then sending the data using an lo_write, but 
I'm unable to figure how to do this in SQL.

Any suggestions?
Note:
1) NFS in order to share disk space between the two servers is not an 
option (in that case, I would be able to use lo_import/lo_export);

2) We're using ZPsycopgDA on the client side
3) I'm not on the list, so please CC to me directly
Regards
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Re: [GENERAL] prelimiary performance comparison pgsql vs mysql

2005-03-20 Thread Robin Ericsson
Mark Rae wrote:
I would say that doing the concurrency tests is probably the most
important factor in comparing other databases against MySQL, as
MySQL will almost always win in single-user tests.
E.g. here are some performance figures from tests I have done in the past.
This is with a 6GB databse on a 4CPU Itanium system running a mixture of
read-only queries, but it is fairly typical of the behaviour I have seen. 
The Oracle figures also scaled in a similar way to postgres.

Clients   1 2 3 4 6 812163264   128
---
mysql-4.1.11.00  1.41  1.34  1.16  0.93  1.03  1.01  1.00  0.94  0.86  0.80
pg-7.4.1   0.65  1.27  1.90  2.48  2.45  2.50  2.48  2.51  2.49  2.39  2.38
Would be interesting to know about the tuning of the MySQL, I guess that 
 buffers for indexing and sort is well setup, but what about thread 
caching? Knowing that will once in a while you will have a connection 
burst you can tell mysql to cache thread so that it can save time next 
time it needs them.

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Re: [GENERAL] prelimiary performance comparison pgsql vs mysql

2005-03-20 Thread Harald Fuchs
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Rick Schumeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 These results are for a single process populating a table with 934k rows,
 and then performing some selects.  I also compared the effect of creating 
 indexes on some of the columns.

 I have not yet done any testing of transactions, multiple concurrent
 processes, etc.

Bad.  That's where things begin to get interesting.

 I did not make any changes to the default config settings.

Bad.  On modern hardware MySQL performs quite good with its default
settings; PostgreSQL performs horribly without some tuning.

 I used pg 8.0.1 and mysql 5.0.2 alpha.

Bad.  As you noticed, MySQL 5.x is Alpha and not very stable.  I'd
suggest using MySQL 4.1.10 instead.

 I compiled pg from source, but I downloaded an binary for mysql.

Good.  Since MySQL is multithreaded, it's much harder to compile than
PostgreSQL.  The MySQL guys actually recommend using their binaries.

 select count(*) from data where fid=2 and rid=6; count = 100
 select count(*) from data where x  5000 and x  5500;   count = 35986
 select count(*) from data where x  5000 and x  5020;   count = 1525

Bad.  These queries are exactly the sore point of PostgreSQL and
MySQL/InnoDB, whereas MySQL/MyISAM really shines.


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Re: [GENERAL] Using sequence name depending on other column

2005-03-20 Thread Andrus
  I have table containing different types of documents (type A, B and C).
 
  Each document type must have separate sequential ID starting at 1
 
  ID of first inserted record of type A must be set to 1
  ID of first inserted record of type B must be also set to 1
  ID of second record of type A must be set to 2
  etc.

 If you are happy with the fact that a sequence may leave a whole in
 the numbers.  You are probably best to no set a default value for an
 integer, or big integer.  Then run a before trigger for each row.  That
 trigger will assign a value to the column based on the value given for
 the type.

Russell,

thank you.
I'm a new to Postgres.
Is there any sample how to write such trigger ?

Before inserting each row it should set document id from sequence
corresponding to insertable document type.

Andrus. 



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[GENERAL] pg_restore: [custom archiver] could not uncompress data: incorrect data check

2005-03-20 Thread Janning Vygen
Hi,

i dumped my database on server1 with pg_dump -Fc ..., copied the dump to 
server2, both same pgsql version 7.4.6

pg_restore says
pg_restore: [custom archiver] could not uncompress data: incorrect data check

But it seems that almost any data was restored. 

What does this error mean. I didn't found anything in the archives (searched 
google with 'pg_restore incorrect data check'). Just one unanswered message 
( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2003-08/msg01035.php )

kind regards,
janning

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Re: [GENERAL] Question about accessing current row data inside trigger

2005-03-20 Thread peter Willis
Hello,
This issue is resolved.
I was using the wrong struct.
Peter
Tom Lane wrote:
peter Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

I have a trigger function written in C.
...
   Since the trigger is called after each row update the actual row data
should be available in some way to the trigger.
   

Sure: tg_trigtuple or tg_newtuple depending on which state you want.
See
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/trigger-interface.html
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[GENERAL] psql variables

2005-03-20 Thread Paul Cunningham
I use a bash script (similar to following example) to update tables.
psql -v passed_in_var=\'some_value\'  -f script_name 
Is it possible to pass a value back from psql to the bash script?
Thanks,
Paul Cunningham

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[GENERAL] Localization problems between Access and PostgresSQL 8

2005-03-20 Thread Secrétariat



Hello,
I've dumped the content of MS-Access 2002 
SP3tables on a PC with Windows XP Pro in French localization.Then I 
COPY these files, on the same PC hosting an PostgreSQL 8.0.1 database.I've 
problems with the accents !? Why ?
What kind of encoding must I use to create the PG 
database under Win XP pro French ?Thanks for all your 
commentsLuc


Re: [GENERAL] Question about accessing current row data inside trigger

2005-03-20 Thread peter Willis
Hello,
I resolved this issue already.
The trigger now works fine.
I was looking at the wrong structure.
Thanks,
Peter
Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 11:37:14AM -0800, peter Willis wrote:
 

I have a trigger function written in C.
The trigger function is called via:
CREATE TRIGGER after_update AFTER UPDATE ON some_table
  FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE  my_trigger_function();
  Since the trigger is called after each row update the actual row data
should be available in some way to the trigger.
  What functionality (SPI ?) do I use to use the column values from
the current row in the actual trigger?
   

See Writing Trigger Functions in C and C-Language Functions in
the documentation.  Here are links to documentation for the latest
version of PostgreSQL:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/trigger-interface.html
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/xfunc-c.html
 


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Re: [GENERAL] Copression

2005-03-20 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stanislaw Tristan wrote:
 It's a possible to compress traffic between server and client while server 
 returns query result?
 It's a very actually for dial-up users.
 What is solution?

No, unless SSL compresses automatically.

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Re: [GENERAL] Copression

2005-03-20 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Stanislaw Tristan wrote:
 

It's a possible to compress traffic between server and client while server returns query result?
   

There are a couple of solutions.
1. Mammoth PostgreSQL supports this for libpq, and jdbc based clients.
2. You can use a web services model that uses something like mod_deflate
3. You can use redirection with SSH
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake

It's a very actually for dial-up users.
What is solution?
   

No, unless SSL compresses automatically.
 


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Re: [GENERAL] Copression

2005-03-20 Thread Neil Conway
Stanislaw Tristan wrote:
It's a possible to compress traffic between server and client while server 
returns query result?
It's a very actually for dial-up users.
What is solution?
You could use an SSH tunnel with compression to achieve this.
-Neil
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Re: [GENERAL] Tracking row updates - race condition

2005-03-20 Thread Vincent Hikida
To fetch all updates since the last synchronization, the client would 
calculated a value for $lastrevision by running this query on its local 
database:
SELECT max(revision) AS lastrevision FROM codes;

It would then fetch all updated rows by running this query against the 
server:
SELECT * FROM codes WHERE revision  $lastrevision;

How about
SELECT * FROM codes WHERE revision  $lastrevision - 100
You could use another number other than 100. As you said, the client can 
handle duplicates.

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Re: [GENERAL] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError

2005-03-20 Thread Kris Jurka


On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Suma Bhat wrote:

 I'm need to be able to insert a byte[] of size upto 25MB.
 With Heap size upto 512m this is failing, with a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
 

You need to use an 8.0 JDBC driver and a 7.4 or 8.0 server.

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Re: [GENERAL] Tracking row updates

2005-03-20 Thread Qingqing Zhou

Alex Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 This seems to work, except there exists a race condition.  Consider the
 following series of events (in chronological order):

1. Initially, in the codes table there's a row with id=1, revision=1,
   and a row with id=2, revision=2
2. Client A begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=1,
   resulting in revision=3 for that row
3. Client B begins a transaction, and updates the row with id=2,
   resulting in revision=4 for that row
4. Client B commits the transaction
5. Client C (which has $lastrevision=2 in its local database)
   synchronizes with the database by doing SELECT * FROM codes WHERE
   revision  2; and retrieves client B's update to the row with
   id=2, revision=4 (it doesn't yet see the update from client A)
6. Client A commits the transaction
7. Some time later, Client C synchronizes with the database again.
   $lastrevision for its database is now 4, so doing SELECT * FROM
   codes WHERE revision  4; does not retrieve any rows.  So client C
   never sees client A's update to the row with id=1

 Essentially, the race condition occurs when the order of clients
 committing transactions (i.e. the updates becoming visible to other
 clients) differs from the order of clients generating sequence values.
 Do you guys have any suggestions on how to avoid this race condition, or
 maybe a more elegant way to synchronize the clients with the server?

In my understanding, you are doing something like a CVS does. Say if you
don't check out a file and you make a revision on the version you now
see(say version 1), then when you want to commit, you will probabaly receive
a merge required notice. Since in this interval, the file may have already
updated by another user (to version 2) - he is free to do so since nobody
knows that you might commit an update. To avoid this,  you have to check
out the file, i.e., lock the file to prevent other changes, then you are
free of any merge requirement. The cost is that you locked the file and
nobody could change it.  So the only options are merge or lock.

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Re: [GENERAL] Copression

2005-03-20 Thread Russell Smith
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50 pm, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Stanislaw Tristan wrote:
  It's a possible to compress traffic between server and client while server 
  returns query result?
  It's a very actually for dial-up users.
  What is solution?
There is always the possibility of using SSH to tunnel the connection.  You get 
encryption and compression.

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Re: [GENERAL] Using sequence name depending on other column

2005-03-20 Thread Russell Smith
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:39 pm, Andrus wrote:
   I have table containing different types of documents (type A, B and C).
  
   Each document type must have separate sequential ID starting at 1
  
   ID of first inserted record of type A must be set to 1
   ID of first inserted record of type B must be also set to 1
   ID of second record of type A must be set to 2
   etc.
 
  If you are happy with the fact that a sequence may leave a whole in
  the numbers.  You are probably best to no set a default value for an
  integer, or big integer.  Then run a before trigger for each row.  That
  trigger will assign a value to the column based on the value given for
  the type.
 
 Russell,
 
 thank you.
 I'm a new to Postgres.
 Is there any sample how to write such trigger ?
 

CREATE FUNCTION seq_trig() RETURNS trigger
AS $$BEGIN

IF NEW.type = 'A' THEN
  NEW.sequence = nextval('a');
END IF;

IF NEW.type = 'B' THEN
 NEW.sequence = nextval('b');
END IF;

RETURN NEW;
END$$
LANGUAGE plpgsql STRICT;


Something like that this may work.

 Before inserting each row it should set document id from sequence
 corresponding to insertable document type.
 
 Andrus. 
 
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Tsearch2 index silently fails on PG 7.3.2

2005-03-20 Thread Oleg Bartunov
I don't remember such problem ? What's your tsearch2 setup ?
Oleg
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Justin L. Kennedy wrote:
The short question is why does this:
select to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '') ||' '||
coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from link_items;
give different results than this:
update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '')
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));
select linksfti from link_items;
Here are more details:
I am working with Tsearch2 on a server with version string:
PostgreSQL 7.3.2 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC 2.96
I have a table with the following schema:
CREATE TABLE link_items
(
 link_id int4,
 name varchar(255),
 url varchar(255),
 description text,
 spanish int4,
 spanishurl varchar(255),
 lastmod date,
 visible int4,
 state varchar(25),
 promisepractice int4,
 keywords text,
 linksfti tsvector
)
WITH OIDS;
ALTER TABLE link_items OWNER TO gate;
I want linksfti to hold the search engine's indexing data (indexed on
'name', 'description', and 'keywords'), so I run the following command:
update link_items set linksfti=to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name, '')
||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,''));
The results are pretty empty.  Most have empty strings for data, other
only index one or two items in the 3 input columns.
For example, after running, my table looks like:
name;description;keywords;linksfti
American Occupational Therapy Association (AOTA) ;Nationally recognized
professional association for over 60,000 occupational therapists and
occupational therapy assistants. ;Rehabilitation Professional
Associations and Councils;'60':1 '000':2
American Physical Therapy Association (APTA);Represents more than
70,000 physical therapists, physical therapist assistants, and students of
physical therapy. ;Rehabilitation Professional Associations and
Councils;'70':1 '000':2
U.S. Deaf Ski  Snowboard Association;Winter sports for people who are
deaf  relevant links.;Recreation Winter Sports;'u.s':1
Texas Adaptive Aquatics;Adaptive water skiing program for people with
physical and/or mental disabilities. ;Recreation Water
Sports;'and/or':1
World T.E.A.M. Sports;Inclusive sports activities.;Recreation Team
Sports;'t.e.a.m':1
Tennessee;Official State Web Site;Legal State Agencies;
Project Vote Smart;By entering zip code, users get list of all their
elected officials. Links to elected officials' and candidates' web sites,
etc. ;Government / Public Policy General;
TRIPOD Captioned Films;Captioned Films for people who are deaf or hard
of hearing.;Recreation Captioned Movies;
When don't do it as an UPDATE and just print the contents to the screen, I
get the full expected output:
select name, description, keywords, to_tsvector('default', coalesce(name,
'') ||' '|| coalesce(description, '') ||' '|| coalesce(keywords,'')) from
link_items;
United States of America Deaf Track and Field;Promotes training of
track athletes who are deaf and coaches who are deaf and hearing.
;Recreation Track;'of':3,11 'and':7,17,22 'are':15,20 'who':14,19
'deaf':5,16,21 'hear':23 'unit':1 'coach':18 'field':8 'state':2
'track':6,12,25 'train':10 'athlet':13 'promot':9 'america':4
'recreat':24
Adventure Pursuit, Inc.;Adventure Pursuit is a group of volunteers who
like spending time with all kinds of people and focus on adventure sports
like kayaking.;Recreation Water Sports;'a':7 'is':6 'of':9,18 'on':22
'all':16 'and':20 'inc':3 'who':11 'kind':17 'like':12,25 'time':14
'with':15 'focus':21 'group':8 'kayak':26 'peopl':19 'spend':13
'sport':24,29 'water':28 'volunt':10 'pursuit':2,5 'recreat':27
'adventur':1,4,23
Using pgAdminIII, I copied (default backup/restore) the database from our
production server and put in on my personal desktop (Windows 2000, PgSQL
8.0.0) and re-ran the update query and it gave proper results.
Is it a known issue with 7.3.2, and is there a workaround without
upgrading the server to 8.0.0?  We will upgrade in a few months, but we
can't take the server offline now because we have too many websites that
depend on it.

Regards,
Oleg
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Re: [GENERAL] no IF - am I missing something ?

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas F . O'Connell
The number of lines depends merely on where you place your line breaks.
IF(days_complete = 120, job_price, 0)AS Days_120
could be written as:
CASE WHEN days_complete = 120 THEN job_price ELSE 0 END AS Days_120
There might be somewhat less syntactic sugar, but this is not a five 
line expression and, to me, is more readable than a comma-delimited 
list where position alone indicates function in the expression.

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On Mar 17, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Richard Crawley wrote:
Hello all.
In the tail end of converting an app from MySQL to psql. I have this 
code :

snip
IF(days_complete = -120, job_price,0) AS Days_120,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -119 AND -90, job_price,0) AS Days_90,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -89 AND -60, job_price,0) AS Days_60,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -59 AND -30, job_price,0) AS Days_30,
IF(days_complete BETWEEN -29 AND 0, job_price,0) AS current
snip
It builds an aged debt report, and there are similar versions that 
SUM(IF ..) to give me debt by customer etc.

All the questions I've seen about IF end up with people saying use 
CASE and I'm sure it would work. But do you lot really use 5 lines 
for each IF ? Doesn't it seem kind of ugly ? Or do you all secretly 
write a quick IF function ?

I'm interested, and I half suspect that I'm missing a more elegant 
solution.


thanks
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[GENERAL] weird error on installing postgresql in Windows XP

2005-03-20 Thread Akbar
Hi,

I have installed previous version of postgresql. 8.x. I uninstalled it.
Then remove the superuser in My Computer ( right click ) -- Properties
-- in tab Advanced -- Settings button. I try to install postgresql
8.0.1. In service configuration, I checked the install as service
checkbox. Filled the form. After suggesting me to change the weak
password, it said that Internal account lookup failure: No mapping
between account names and security IDs was done.

What is going on here

Thank you.






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[GENERAL] Test

2005-03-20 Thread Alexander Ivanko




Test




Re: [GENERAL] no IF - am I missing something ?

2005-03-20 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:35:22AM -0600, Thomas F.O'Connell wrote:
 The number of lines depends merely on where you place your line breaks.
 
 IF(days_complete = 120, job_price, 0)AS Days_120
 
 could be written as:
 
 CASE WHEN days_complete = 120 THEN job_price ELSE 0 END AS Days_120
 
 There might be somewhat less syntactic sugar, but this is not a five 
 line expression and, to me, is more readable than a comma-delimited 
 list where position alone indicates function in the expression.

CASE is also standard SQL, whereas IF isn't (unless I've overlooked
it in the SQL:2003 draft).

-- 
Michael Fuhr
http://www.fuhr.org/~mfuhr/

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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL v7.4.7 support platform?

2005-03-20 Thread Alexander Ivanko




Hi!

Could you please answer me whether PostgreSQL v7.4.7 (on x86 platform)
is compatible with FreeBSD v5.3 or its safer to use FreeBSD v4.11? 
Excuse me for my English. Thank you in advance!