On Sunday 28 June 2009 20:38:59 Robert Haas wrote:
The only other use case I can think of for functionality of this type
is some kind of dashboard view on a system with very long-running
queries, where you want to see how far you have yet to go on each one
(maybe to approximate when you can
You might want to take a look at this:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Submitting_a_Patch
I will; I'm sorry it wasn't in the proper format. It was just a proof of
concept, I guess I should have talked about it before even sending the patch.
As to the content of the patch, I think that what
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote:
On Friday 26 June 2009 12:07:24 Tsutomu Yamada wrote:
Proposal: More portable way to support 64bit platforms
Short description:
Current PostgreSQL implementation has some portability issues to
support 64bit platforms: pointer calculations
On Thursday 25 June 2009 01:09:17 Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Well, I think in our case that would be going too far. I think there is
a very good case for keeping a few key extensions in core both as
exemplars and to make it easy to validate the extension mechanism
itself. There have been
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Another thing we might want to consider once we have a robust extension
mechanism is to move some things out of the backend into extensions.
Candidates could be uuid, legacy geometry types, inet/cidr, for example.
These extensions would still be available and
Hi all,
this patch adds the possibility to map the login-rolename to a different
rolename actually used for permissions.
What is it used for?
I'm working with smartcard based TLS-authentication to connect to the PG
server. Authentication is done with the keys and certificates from the card
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Scara Maccaim_li...@yahoo.it wrote:
Is anyone interested in such a progress indicator???
I'm relatively new to Postgres and just starting to look at starting
to look at what we might do with it for handling large genomic
datasets. I've used Toad for Oracle to
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Scara Maccaim_li...@yahoo.it wrote:
As to the content of the patch, I think that what you are doing is
comparing the actual number of operations with the expected number
of operations. If that's correct, I'm not sure it's really all that
useful, because it
Tsutomu Yamada tsut...@sraoss.co.jp writes:
Yes, I have read through the discusion but it seems somewhat faded
out. This is because no platform other than Windows has 64bit
pointer issues IMO. I think using intptr_t is cleaner and will bring
more portability. Moreover it will solve Windows
Lars Kanis ka...@comcard.de writes:
this patch adds the possibility to map the login-rolename to a different
rolename actually used for permissions.
This seems like an ugly addition with a very narrow use case. Can't
you accomplish what you want with the existing usermap facility?
On Monday 29 June 2009 17:20:09 Tom Lane wrote:
The problem with this is that it's barely the tip of the iceberg.
One point I recall is that there are lots of places where %lu is
assumed to be the correct format to print Datums with.
Hmm. I tried this out. typedef Datum to be long long int
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
On Monday 29 June 2009 17:20:09 Tom Lane wrote:
If it were
actually possible to support Win64 with only a couple of dozen lines
of changes, we would have done it long since.
Possibly, or everyone was too confused and didn't know where to start.
Well,
It's
easy to have
estimates that are off by a factor of two or three, though,
so I think
you'd frequently have situations when the query completed
when the
progress estimater was at 40% or 250%.
I thought about implementing a given perfect estimates indicator at first
then, as a second
Am Montag, 29. Juni 2009 16:26:56 schrieben Sie:
Lars Kanis ka...@comcard.de writes:
this patch adds the possibility to map the login-rolename to a different
rolename actually used for permissions.
This seems like an ugly addition with a very narrow use case. Can't
you accomplish what you
Lars Kanis ka...@comcard.de writes:
The problem I have, is that I want to use an ordinary windows application,
which connects to an arbitrary ODBC data source. This application stores a
fixed username und password for the connection within it's own binary data
file. It doesn't know anything
IMO
any
diagnostics you can provide for a low cost are
useful. The more
detail, the better. Step 1 of 10 is good, 80%
complete on step 1
of 10 is better. 80% complete on step 1, 10%
complete on 10 steps
is even better.
Well, I guess Step 1 of 10 would be pretty trivial to implement
Folks,
For things like PostGIS, which will want to index in 4 dimensions
(x, y, z, t), we might want to have multi-dimensional selectivity
histograms and some way to use same.
Anybody here qualified to check out this paper on the subject, please
speak up :)
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
David Fetter wrote:
There have been previous discussions of prospective permissions
changes. Are we restarting them here?
It's not on the TODO list. I recall it being raised from time to time
but I certainly don't recall a consensus that it should
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 12:55 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I think it has to be looked at in comparison to more general
prospective-permissions schemes;
When I searched google for prospective permissions, all I found were
links to messages in this thread ;)
Can you refer me to a general
Hey hackers,
I have a few concerns with the usability and documentation for
pg_restore (note: I'm on 8.3, but I've checked the documentation for 8.4).
In my attempts to restore a table (using -t) from a backup file with -v
(verbose) selected, I noticed a few things:
1. If a non-existent
Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com writes:
Can you refer me to a general prospective-permissions scheme that is
more widely accepted?
Well, the point of my post was that nothing's gotten to the point of
being widely accepted. But there are people working on a default
ACLs scheme that would cover
Mike Toews mwto...@sfu.ca writes:
I have a few concerns with the usability and documentation for
pg_restore (note: I'm on 8.3, but I've checked the documentation for 8.4).
There's a TODO item about that already...
* Add support for multiple pg_restore -t options, like pg_dump
Jeff Davis wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 12:55 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I think it has to be looked at in comparison to more general
prospective-permissions schemes;
When I searched google for prospective permissions, all I found were
links to messages in this thread ;)
Can you refer
Tom Lane wrote:
Mike Toews mwto...@sfu.ca writes:
I have a few concerns with the usability and documentation for
pg_restore (note: I'm on 8.3, but I've checked the documentation for 8.4).
There's a TODO item about that already...
* Add support for multiple pg_restore -t options,
All,
First, let me talk about the problem: it's been my observation that the
majority of users, including public commercial web sites, which I run
into in the field do not employ permissions in any useful way to protect
their data. An awful lot of these applications are running as the
All,
Actually, an indicator of even just what step of the query was being
executed would be very useful for checking on stuck queries. If a DBA
checks once that the query is on bitmapscan on table_x(index_y), and
it's still on that 15 minutes later, he/she can guess that the query is
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
So, while an actual % completed indicator would be perfect, a query
steps completed, current step = would still be very useful and a large
improvement over what we have now.
I think this is pretty much nonsense --- most queries run all their plan
nodes
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 10:52 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
1) ALTER SCHEMA SET DEFAULT PRIVILEGES statements which sets default
permissions, by ROLE and object type, on new objects.
2) a statement to set privs on all existing objects by type and role
within a schema.
I don't see why either of
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM, m_li...@yahoo.it wrote:
So the code that I have right now works pretty well for the 10 queries of
my project, but I guess won't work for general queries :(
I think that's probably right.
So, I'm all in favor of what you're trying to conceptually;
I just
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:07:23PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
So, while an actual % completed indicator would be perfect, a query
steps completed, current step = would still be very useful and a large
improvement over what we have now.
I think this is
Jeff Davis pg...@j-davis.com writes:
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 10:52 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
1) ALTER SCHEMA SET DEFAULT PRIVILEGES statements which sets default
permissions, by ROLE and object type, on new objects.
2) a statement to set privs on all existing objects by type and role
within
Joshua Tolley eggyk...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:07:23PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I think this is pretty much nonsense --- most queries run all their plan
nodes concurrently to some extent. You can't usefully say that a query
is on some node, nor measure progress by whether
Jeff,
I don't see why either of these things should be properties of the
schema. It seems to make much more sense for these defaults to be a
property of the user who creates the objects.
The main reason is existing practice. Currently, most applications I
see in the field which bother with
--On 29. Juni 2009 08:32:29 +0900 KaiGai Kohei kai...@ak.jp.nec.com wrote:
Yes, it intends to assign an identifier string not only numeric
large object identifier. The identifier string can be qualified
with a certain namespace as follows.
E.g)
SELECT lo_open('my_picture01', x'4'::int);
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
The second, and bigger problem I can see is that this opens a whole new
set of security holes by allowing an end-run around the existing access
control structure with attackers can try to exploit.
Yeah. I'm very concerned about any scheme that invents
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
So, while an actual % completed indicator would be perfect, a query
steps completed, current step = would still be very useful and a large
improvement over what we have now.
I think this
Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de writes:
It might be interesting to dig into your proposal deeper in conjunction
with TOAST (you've already mentioned this TODO). Having serial access with
a nice interface into TOAST would be eliminating the need for
pg_largeobject completely (i'm not a big
Lars,
* Lars Kanis (ka...@comcard.de) wrote:
The problem I have, is that I want to use an ordinary windows application,
which connects to an arbitrary ODBC data source. This application stores a
fixed username und password for the connection within it's own binary data
file. It doesn't
Thanks for your help.
It worked.
Regards
Swati
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Hi,
I built postgresql from source using Windows 2005.
After installation, I am trying to create a database using
createdb.
It then asks for a password. What password is it? There are now passwords set
on my system. Also tried editing pg_hba.conf. But could not solve the problem.
How do I
Tom,
From what I recall of prior discussions, there is rough consensus that
the two types of facilities you mentioned (setting up default ACLs to be
applied at creation of objects created later, and providing a way to
change multiple objects' permissions with one GRANT) are desirable,
though
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
The main reason is existing practice.
I haven't followed the entire conversation so i'm not sure who I'm
going to be disagreeing with or agreeing with here. But I wanted to
mention that existing practice may not be a very
Greg,
In particular, one early question was whether to use wildcard patterns
or schema names. People were saying wildcard patterns would be more
flexible because people don't always set up their objects in different
schemas. But if we had a mechanism someone wanted to use which
depended on
For things like PostGIS, which will want to index in 4 dimensions
(x, y, z, t), we might want to have multi-dimensional selectivity
histograms and some way to use same.
Another use case is cross column statistics.
Anybody here qualified to check out this paper on the subject, please
speak
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:01PM -0700, Nathan Boley wrote:
For things like PostGIS, which will want to index in 4 dimensions
(x, y, z, t), we might want to have multi-dimensional selectivity
histograms and some way to use same.
Another use case is cross column statistics.
Good to see
2009/6/29 Ms swati chande swat...@yahoo.com
Hi,
I built postgresql from source using Windows 2005.
Did you read
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Running_%26_Installing_PostgreSQL_On_Native_Windows?
Why not use prebuilt versions (see
http://www.postgresql.org/download/windows)?
After
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 14:07 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
So, while an actual % completed indicator would be perfect, a query
steps completed, current step = would still be very useful and a large
improvement over what we have now.
I think this is pretty
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:01PM -0700, Nathan Boley wrote:
... They dismiss
singular value decomposition and the discrete wavelet transform as
being too parametric ( which is silly, IMHO )
Should we have a separate discussion about eigenvalues?
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 14:07 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I think this is pretty much nonsense --- most queries run all their plan
nodes concurrently to some extent. You can't usefully say that a query
is on some node, nor measure progress by whether some
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:43:35PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:01PM -0700, Nathan Boley wrote:
... They dismiss singular value decomposition and the discrete
wavelet transform as being too parametric ( which is silly, IMHO
)
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
What I'm saying is that there are many users currently using schema for
security classes. I personally haven't ever encountered a DBA who used role
ownership of objects as a mechanism for security context. There's nothing
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 14:07 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
I think this is pretty much nonsense --- most queries run all their plan
nodes concurrently to some extent. You can't usefully say that a query
is on some node, nor measure progress by whether some node is done.
Right, that was why my
Finally, this creates the partition but ( AFAICT ) it doesn't describe
a method for locating the histogram estimate given a point ( although
that doesn't seem too difficult ).
Is that not difficult, in terms of the math that needs doing, or
not difficult, in terms of how well PostgreSQL is
Greg Stark wrote:
Right, that was why my proposed interface was to dump out the explain
plan with the number of loops, row counts seen so far, and approximate
percentage progress.
My thinking was that a human could interpret that to understand where
the bottleneck is if, say you're still on the
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:01PM -0700, Nathan Boley wrote:
... They dismiss
singular value decomposition and the discrete wavelet transform as
being too parametric ( which is silly,
Greg,
And there's I just created a new table, I want www and
www-backend to get their usual privileges without thinking about it.
You want to be able to specify default grants that an object gets
based on the schema? That seems mostly reasonable though it might be a
good idea to have a WITH
Hi All,
My function is to collect some backend information for user anlysis.
How to register my function into backend? It make that we can called it via
libpg/PQfn().
Thanks!
Best regards,
Bruce
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Ron Mayerrm...@cheapcomplexdevices.com wrote:
Greg Stark wrote:
Right, that was why my proposed interface was to dump out the explain
plan with the number of loops, row counts seen so far, and approximate
percentage progress.
My thinking was that a human
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Bruce YUANsua...@gmail.com wrote:
My function is to collect some backend information for user anlysis.
How to register my function into backend? It make that we can called it via
libpg/PQfn().
Thanks!
I'm not sure this is -hackers question; seems like -general
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Nathan Boleynpbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:28:01PM -0700, Nathan Boley wrote:
... They dismiss
singular value decomposition and the
Tom Lane wrote:
Bernd Helmle maili...@oopsware.de writes:
It might be interesting to dig into your proposal deeper in conjunction
with TOAST (you've already mentioned this TODO). Having serial access with
a nice interface into TOAST would be eliminating the need for
pg_largeobject
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
It does
seems slightly silly since surely anyone creating a new object would
just paste in their grants from another object or some common source
anyways, but I suppose that's the way with convenience features.
That works
Greg,
Well I don't understand how you get them wrong if you're just pasting
them from a file. I mean, sure you can pick the wrong template but
nothing can help you there. You could just as easily pick the wrong
template if it's a database feature instead of a text file.
I really have to
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 04:24:40AM +0100, Greg Stark wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
It does seems slightly silly since surely anyone creating a new
object would just paste in their grants from another object or
some common source anyways, but I
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Well I don't understand how you get them wrong if you're just pasting
them from a file. I mean, sure you can pick the wrong template but
nothing can help you there. You could just as easily pick the wrong
template if it's a
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:22:15PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
I'm finding myself unable to follow all the terminology on this thead.
What's dimension reduction?
For instance, ask a bunch of people a bunch of survey questions, in hopes of
predicting some value (for instance, whether or not
Header file include/foreign/foreign.h is not installed in 8.4.0.
Did we forget to add subdir foreign to Makefile?
Index: src/include/Makefile
===
--- src/include/Makefile(8.4.0)
+++ src/include/Makefile(fixed)
@@
Le 30 juin 2009 à 01:34, Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu a écrit :
Basically I disagree that imperfect progress reports annoy users. I
think we can do better than reporting 250% done or having a percentage
that goes backward though. It would be quite tolerable (though perhaps
for no logical reason)
Now that 8.4.0 is out the door, development for 8.5devel will be opened any
day now. But we haven't discussed the development timeline so far. The core
team has several proposals:
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