Hi,
I knew that we create an entry in pg_type for every table we create,
what i didn't know is that we actually create 2 entries.
for example CREATE TABLE foo (i int); will create types foo and _foo.
so, any reason to create 2 entries?
anyway, what really kept my attention is that CREATE SEQUENCE
2012/6/1 Robert Haas :
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Kohei KaiGai wrote:
>> It may be an option to separate the case into two; a situation to execute
>> the given query immediately just after optimization and never reused,
>> and others.
>
> Yes. Simon suggested exactly this a while back, an
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> Buffer pins aren't a cache: with a cache you are trying to mask a slow
> operation (like a disk i/o) with a faster such that the amount of slow
> operations are minimized. Buffer pins however are very different in
> that we only care about c
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>> Ok, now you've lost me. If the read() blocks, how on earth can a few
>> additional pins/unpins ever account for any meaningful execution time?
>>
>> It seems to me that once read() blocks
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Hmm ... first question is do we actually care whether the clocks are
> synced to the millisecond level, ie what is it you'd do differently
> if you know that the master and slave clocks are synced more closely
> than you can measure at the protoc
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Florian Pflug wrote:
> Ok, now you've lost me. If the read() blocks, how on earth can a few
> additional pins/unpins ever account for any meaningful execution time?
>
> It seems to me that once read() blocks we're talking about a delay in the
> order of the scheduli
On Jun1, 2012, at 21:07 , Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>> On Jun1, 2012, at 19:51 , Robert Haas wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
We'd drain the unpin queue whenever we don't expect a PinBuffer() request
to happe
This is a benchmark I performed on the same hardware, for tpc-b.sql,
with a commit_delay of 0 and 4000 for the patch:
http://tpcbdelay.staticloud.com/
There is a rather large improvement in throughput here. Robert
previously complained that our group commit implementation didn't do
very well on t
Robert Haas writes:
> Another thought is that if the problem is limited to the root index
> block, then we could consider less general solutions, like allowing
> backends to cache the root index block and sending some kind of
> invalidation when it gets split.
Possibly worth noting here that we a
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Florian Pflug wrote:
> On Jun1, 2012, at 19:51 , Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>>> A simpler idea would be to collapse UnpinBuffer() / PinBuffer() pairs
>>> by queing UnpinBuffer() requests for a while before actually up
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Jeff Janes wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>>
>>> We'd drain the unpin queue whenever we don't expect a PinBuffer() request
>>> to happen for a while. Returning to the main loop i
On Jun1, 2012, at 19:51 , Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>> A simpler idea would be to collapse UnpinBuffer() / PinBuffer() pairs
>> by queing UnpinBuffer() requests for a while before actually updating
>> shared state.
>
> So, what happens when somebody
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
>
>> We'd drain the unpin queue whenever we don't expect a PinBuffer() request
>> to happen for a while. Returning to the main loop is an obvious such place,
>> but there might be others.
>
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Kohei KaiGai wrote:
> It may be an option to separate the case into two; a situation to execute
> the given query immediately just after optimization and never reused,
> and others.
Yes. Simon suggested exactly this a while back, and I agree with him
that we ough
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
> A simpler idea would be to collapse UnpinBuffer() / PinBuffer() pairs
> by queing UnpinBuffer() requests for a while before actually updating
> shared state.
So, what happens when somebody wants a cleanup lock on the buffer
you've decided to
Joel Jacobson wrote:
> hm, is it even possible to have function names with slashes?
test=# create function "is/""it""\even
possible?"() returns void language plpgsql as $$begin end;$$;
CREATE FUNCTION
test=# select "is/""it""\even
possible?"();
is/"it"\even+
possible?
--
(1
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Florian Pflug wrote:
> My proposed algorithm could be made to use exactly that criterion
> by tracking a little bit more state. We'd have to tag queue entries
> with a flag indicating whether they are
>
> Unpinned (COLD)
>
> Pinned, and unpinning should be delayed
I wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> What platform?
>> Ubuntu 12.04.
> FWIW, I get the same on Fedora 16.
This seems to be a glibc bug: it won't set errno correctly
if you've already asked about the same wrong locale name. Filed at
https:/
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Merlin Moncure writes:
>> A potential issue with this line of thinking is that your pin delay
>> queue could get highly pressured by outer portions of the query (as in
>> the OP's case) that will get little or no benefit from the delayed
>> pin.
On Jun1, 2012, at 15:45 , Tom Lane wrote:
> Merlin Moncure writes:
>> A potential issue with this line of thinking is that your pin delay
>> queue could get highly pressured by outer portions of the query (as in
>> the OP's case) that will get little or no benefit from the delayed
>> pin. But ch
Simon Riggs writes:
> On 1 June 2012 14:59, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Ah. Well, as long as the overflowed fsyncs do get handled on the
>> requesting side, I see no bug here. No objection to changing the order
>> in which we launch the processes, but as Heikki says, it's not clear
>> that that is reall
On 1 June 2012 14:59, Tom Lane wrote:
> Simon Riggs writes:
>> On 1 June 2012 14:29, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Surely that commit is useless. Fsync requests go into a queue in shared
>>> memory, which had better have been set up by the postmaster. There is
>>> no requirement that the receiving proce
Simon Riggs writes:
> On 1 June 2012 14:29, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Surely that commit is useless. Fsync requests go into a queue in shared
>> memory, which had better have been set up by the postmaster. There is
>> no requirement that the receiving process exist before somebody can put
>> a request
On 1 June 2012 14:29, Tom Lane wrote:
> Surely that commit is useless. Fsync requests go into a queue in shared
> memory, which had better have been set up by the postmaster. There is
> no requirement that the receiving process exist before somebody can put
> a request into the queue. If the q
Merlin Moncure writes:
> A potential issue with this line of thinking is that your pin delay
> queue could get highly pressured by outer portions of the query (as in
> the OP's case) that will get little or no benefit from the delayed
> pin. But choosing a sufficiently sized drain queue would wo
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Florian Pflug wrote:
> On May31, 2012, at 20:50 , Robert Haas wrote:
>> Suppose we introduce two new buffer flags,
>> BUF_NAILED and BUF_NAIL_REMOVAL. When we detect excessive contention
>> on the buffer header spinlock, we set BUF_NAILED. Once we do that,
>> the
Simon Riggs writes:
> On 1 June 2012 08:55, Heikki Linnakangas
> wrote:
>> On 01.06.2012 10:28, Simon Riggs wrote:
>>> Checkpointer starts before bgwriter to avoid missing fsync requests.
>>> Noted while testing Hot Standby startup.
>> The processes are just forked and it will take some time for
On May31, 2012, at 20:50 , Robert Haas wrote:
> Suppose we introduce two new buffer flags,
> BUF_NAILED and BUF_NAIL_REMOVAL. When we detect excessive contention
> on the buffer header spinlock, we set BUF_NAILED. Once we do that,
> the buffer can't be evicted until that flag is removed, and back
On 1 June 2012 12:34, Sergey Koposov wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Simon Riggs wrote:
>
>>
>> Why do you have 10,000 tables and why is it important to drop them so
>> quickly?
>
>
> 1 tables are there, because that's the number of partitions. And I'm
> dropping them at the moment, because I'm d
On Thu, 31 May 2012, Jeff Janes wrote:
No, idt_match is getting filled by multi-threaded copy() and then joined
with 4 other big tables like idt_phot. The result is then split into
partitions.
That does make things more complicated. But you could you partition
it at that level and then do th
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Simon Riggs wrote:
Why do you have 10,000 tables and why is it important to drop them so quickly?
1 tables are there, because that's the number of partitions. And I'm
dropping them at the moment, because I'm doing testing. So it won't be
really crucial for production.
On 1 June 2012 08:55, Heikki Linnakangas
wrote:
> On 01.06.2012 10:28, Simon Riggs wrote:
>>
>> Checkpointer starts before bgwriter to avoid missing fsync requests.
>> Noted while testing Hot Standby startup.
>
>
> The processes are just forked and it will take some time for them to
> initialize.
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