Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-20 Thread John DeSoi
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Joshua Tolley wrote: One of the Java-as-a-procedural-language options uses RMI to get the server talking to a separate JVM, where the actual function processing gets done. Could a PL/Lisp work similarly (and would it be anything approaching a good idea...)? I thin

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-20 Thread Joshua Tolley
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM, John DeSoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Douglas McNaught wrote: > >> SBCL is a big and very sophisticated program. It's designed to be a >> self-contained Lisp system and has (AFAIK) no concessions to >> "embeddability". It uses thr

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-20 Thread John DeSoi
On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Douglas McNaught wrote: SBCL is a big and very sophisticated program. It's designed to be a self-contained Lisp system and has (AFAIK) no concessions to "embeddability". It uses threads internally, and plays games with the memory map to make GC more efficient. On

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-19 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 09:24 +0300, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Someone at the PostgreSQL West conference last weekend expressed an > > interest in a Lisp procedural language. The only two Lisp environments > > I've found so far that aren't GPL are

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-19 Thread Douglas McNaught
2008/10/18 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > GCL (and Clisp) are both reasonable implementations of Common Lisp. > However, they are both GPL, which I think is an issue for PostgreSQL > community members. CMUCL development more or less stalled out, and many > of the heavyweights moved

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread Volkan YAZICI
"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Someone at the PostgreSQL West conference last weekend expressed an > interest in a Lisp procedural language. The only two Lisp environments > I've found so far that aren't GPL are Steel Bank Common Lisp (MIT, > http://sbcl.sourceforge.net) and

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread Tom Lane
"M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > GCL (and Clisp) are both reasonable implementations of Common Lisp. > However, they are both GPL, which I think is an issue for PostgreSQL > community members. Well, it would be an issue if we wanted to distribute PL/Lisp as part of the core;

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread Andrew Dunstan
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 20:43 -0400, Nikolas Everett wrote: From what I remember with tinkering with Lisp a while back, SBCL and CMUCL are the big free implementations. I remember something about GCL being non-standard. Either of those should make lisp hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 20:43 -0400, Nikolas Everett wrote: > From what I remember with tinkering with Lisp a while back, SBCL and > CMUCL are the big free implementations. I remember something about > GCL being non-standard. Either of those should make lisp hackers > happy. GCL (and Clisp) are bo

Re: [HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread Nikolas Everett
From what I remember with tinkering with Lisp a while back, SBCL and CMUCL are the big free implementations. I remember something about GCL being non-standard. Either of those should make lisp hackers happy. 2008/10/18 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Someone at the PostgreSQL West

[HACKERS] Lisp as a procedural language?

2008-10-18 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Someone at the PostgreSQL West conference last weekend expressed an interest in a Lisp procedural language. The only two Lisp environments I've found so far that aren't GPL are Steel Bank Common Lisp (MIT, http://sbcl.sourceforge.net) and XLispStat (BSD, http://www.stat.uiowa.edu/~luke/xls/xlsinfo/