what can't be purchased and silenced, should be killed with rain of law suits.
Microsoft does it, novell does it, sco does it, and oracle too.
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Josh,
On 3/31/07 11:01 AM, Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The PostgreSQL project should not give any credence to these
announcements and should avoid all patent issues possible.
I think that's appropriate - the structure of the OIN looks like it's:
1) focused on Linux
2) designed to
Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote:
On Sun, April 1, 2007 01:32, Tom Lane wrote:
The idea of OIN is to have a large patent pool that can be
counter-asserted against anyone who doesn't want to play nice.
Mutual assured destruction in the patent sphere, if you will.
And from the participants'
All,
You can be as selective as you want about enforcing patents ---
copyright/trademark enforcement does require consistent enforcement.
I'm not sure that's the case, actually. Of course, I'm not an attorney ...
but then, neither are you.
What is it about -hackers that people love to
On Sun, April 1, 2007 01:32, Tom Lane wrote:
The idea of OIN is to have a large patent pool that can be
counter-asserted against anyone who doesn't want to play nice.
Mutual assured destruction in the patent sphere, if you will.
And from the participants' point of view, I suppose the big
Bruce,
This is big news - has anyone checked to see if the agreement for the OIN is
in perpetuity? Or is their agreement to not pursue patents only for as long
as they are members?
- Luke
On 3/30/07 10:43 AM, Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a surprising article about how
Luke Lonergan wrote:
Bruce,
This is big news - has anyone checked to see if the agreement for the OIN is
in perpetuity? Or is their agreement to not pursue patents only for as long
as they are members?
I'm sure they would be estopped from enforcing a patent against someone
who relied on
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Luke Lonergan wrote:
Bruce,
This is big news - has anyone checked to see if the agreement for the
OIN is
in perpetuity? Or is their agreement to not pursue patents only for
as long
as they are members?
I'm sure they would be estopped from enforcing a patent
Luke Lonergan wrote:
Bruce,
This is big news - has anyone checked to see if the agreement for the OIN is
in perpetuity? Or is their agreement to not pursue patents only for as long
as they are members?
I would be worried if I were you (or Joshua Drake for that matter): does
the agreement
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
Luke Lonergan wrote:
Bruce,
This is big news - has anyone checked to see if the agreement for the OIN is
in perpetuity? Or is their agreement to not pursue patents only for as long
as they are members?
I would be worried if I were you (or Joshua Drake for that matter):
Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If Oracle truly (or IBM etc..) really was interested in Protecting
Linux or other FOSS software, they would put the patent in the public
domain.
No, you miss the point of OIN. Doing the above might make FOSS
developers free from the particular
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would be worried if I were you (or Joshua Drake for that matter): does
the agreement apply to commercial companies deriving products from
PostgreSQL as well?
Interesting point. It's doubtless unwise to take this press release as
being an accurate
: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 02:55 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Alvaro Herrera
Cc: Luke Lonergan; Bruce Momjian; PostgreSQL-development
Subject:Re: [HACKERS] Oracle indemnifies PostgreSQL on its patents
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED
Here is a surprising article about how Oracle has made open source
projects, like PostgreSQL, safe from claims of infringing Oracle
patents:
http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=A0F5F220-5940-470D-8564-CEA7E2D2B954.
Oracle, like IBM, Sony, RedHat, and Novell, is now a member
Bruce,
Oracle, like IBM, Sony, RedHat, and Novell, is now a member of the Open
Invention Network, whose members all offer patent indemnification.
Hey! We could go back to using ARC!
;-)
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Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco
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