Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-11-19 Thread Josh Berkus
Jonah, Do you have an 8.1 patch for this or only the 8.0.x? Nope, this is Satoshi's code, ask him. BTW, I'm not sure that the DBT2 test is ideal for this sort of thing anyway. We really need a few tests that are heavier on UPDATEs than on INSERTS. Maybe a few data warehousing-style merges.

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-11-18 Thread Jonah H. Harris
Josh, Do you have an 8.1 patch for this or only the 8.0.x? On 9/22/05, Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com wrote: Folks,Well, it took a while but I finally have the results of Satoshi's PCTFreepatch back from the STP.Bad news about the STP, see below ...Anyway, a series of DBT2 runs doesn't seem to

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 11:05:47AM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote: Has there been any movement on this? If not, I finally have some time to look at it. Well, here's the original thread: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-08/msg00637.php I think the problem is that the testing

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-29 Thread Jonah H. Harris
Has there been any movement on this? If not, I finally have some time to look at it. On 9/23/05, Jim C. Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:05:57PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: With respect to the original point, I'm pretty nervous about either accepting or rejecting a

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-23 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:05:57PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: With respect to the original point, I'm pretty nervous about either accepting or rejecting a performance-oriented patch on the strength of a single test case. This report certainly doesn't favor the PCTFREE patch, but it probably

[HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, Well, it took a while but I finally have the results of Satoshi's PCTFree patch back from the STP. Bad news about the STP, see below ... Anyway, a series of DBT2 runs doesn't seem to show any advantage to PCTFree over a 3-hour run with no vacuums: test# pctfree full_page_writes

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Jonah H. Harris
Seems like this was to be somewhat expected. Was there any stats/diagnostics included in the patch to show the effectiveness of PCTFREE? On 9/22/05, Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com wrote: Folks,Well, it took a while but I finally have the results of Satoshi's PCTFreepatch back from the STP.Bad news

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Josh Berkus
Jonah, Seems like this was to be somewhat expected. Was there any stats/diagnostics included in the patch to show the effectiveness of PCTFREE? Lots, look up the tests on OSDL, per link. -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Jonah H. Harris
Josh, Sorry, duh. I'll check it out. It has been a long day and I totally missed the URL :(On 9/22/05, Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com wrote:Jonah, Seems like this was to be somewhat expected. Was there any stats/diagnostics included in the patch to show the effectiveness of PCTFREE?Lots, look up

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com writes: ... The good news is that it appears that stuff which has been done since July has lessened the penalty for checkpoints somewhat; while the maximum response time is still better on the full_page_writes=off systems, the average throughput is no longer

Re: [HACKERS] PCTFree Results

2005-09-22 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, I dug through the CVS logs since 5-July (when full_page_writes was added, so I suppose that's before your unspecified July test). AFAICS the only changes that might possibly affect xlog/checkpoint performance were these: Use O_DIRECT if available when using O_SYNC for