Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Joe Conway
Andreas Pflug wrote: But PostgreSQL may be better than Oracle, don't you think? In the named document, snip MSSQL2000 still doesn't have row level triggers, and I doubt that 2003 has. Right, so as you've pointed out, Postgres trigger implementation is at least in some ways more flexible than

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a philosophical note, I usually don't add core folks to release items _with_ other folks because we want to encourage non-core contributors, and because there is already the assumption that core is involved in many patches. I agree with this. For

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Oleg Bartunov wrote: Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Sorry, added: New tsearch2 full-text search module (Oleg) -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 +

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Why is this not together with the mention that dollar signs are *not* allowed anymore in operator names? They are in different places because one relates to operator names (Object Manipulation section) while the other relates to queries

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:29:50 -0400 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is this? Prevent timestamp from supressing ':00' seconds display I think that was type interval, not timestamp. Yeah, it is. (my bad, I think). LER regards,

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Larry Rosenman
No, the one where we always print hh:mm:ss for an interval, even if seconds is zero. --On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 01:03:57 -0400 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about that item. There is a menion of allowing 60 seconds --- is that it?

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
I don't know about that item. There is a menion of allowing 60 seconds --- is that it? --- Larry Rosenman wrote: What about the interval change in ISO datestyle for zero seconds? LER --On Sunday, August 03, 2003

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: How are statement level triggers supposed to work? Are they just triggers deferred until the end of the statement? You mentioned access to the affected rows, but I don't understand how that is supposed to happen. I'm not sure this is a fair assessment of statement level

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Done, now: Allow thread-safe libpq with --enable-thread-safety (Lee Kindness, Philip Yarra) --- Lee Kindness wrote: Bruce, I know it's a bit picky but both below should be along the lines of Allow

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
How are statement level triggers supposed to work? Are they just triggers deferred until the end of the statement? You mentioned access to the affected rows, but I don't understand how that is supposed to happen. ---

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. Some notes on specific items: Update /tmp socket files regularly to avoid their removal (Tom) More specifically,

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes: statement level triggers

2003-08-11 Thread Andreas Pflug
Bruce Momjian wrote: How are statement level triggers supposed to work? Are they just triggers deferred until the end of the statement? You mentioned access to the affected rows, but I don't understand how that is supposed to happen. Statement level isn't about deferring or grouping the

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-11 Thread Lee Kindness
Bruce, I know it's a bit picky but both below should be along the lines of Allow thread-safe library since they are not threaded per se. L. Bruce Momjian writes: Libpq Allow threaded with --enable-thread-safety (Lee Kindness, Bruce) Miscellaneous Interfaces Allow threaded ecpg with

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Done. --- Oleg Bartunov wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Oleg Bartunov wrote: Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Sorry, added: New tsearch2

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-10 Thread Andreas Pflug
Neil Conway wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:47:36AM +0200, Andreas Pflug wrote: AFAICS the current implementation still doesn't have a way to access the affected rowset, so it'a pretty much like a SELECT without a WHERE. Yeah, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to implement this

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-09 Thread Andreas Pflug
I'm not sure this is a fair assessment of statement level triggers. Yes, in MSSQL you can access the rows involved in the statement, but in Oracle you cannot (emphasis added): Accessing Column Values in Row Triggers Within a trigger body of a *row trigger*, the PL/SQL code and SQL statements

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-08 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. Some notes on specific items: Update /tmp socket files regularly to avoid their removal (Tom) More specifically, update the file mod

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-08 Thread Andreas Pflug
Thinking hard about wording... Add partially implemented FOR EACH STATEMENT statement-level triggers (Neil Conway) which doesn't look nice but expresses what's implemented. Taken from the CREATE TRIGGER FOR EACH STATEMENT documentation, a user would think he could do the same stuff as on lets

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, I moved them both to the object section, next to each other. --- Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Why is this not together with the mention that dollar signs are *not* allowed

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-06 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:36:32 -0400 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, yes. Let me add that. I didn't realize that was a change of enough significance. How is this? Prevent timestamp from supressing ':00' seconds display Yes, considering that it's a format change and Tom

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Oleg Bartunov wrote: Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Sorry, added: New tsearch2 full-text search module (Oleg) Bruce, I wrote (Oleg,Teodor) Regards, Oleg

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. Almost anything with my name on it (but certainly all the array and polymorphic function stuff) could have Tom's too, since he

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a philosophical note, I usually don't add core folks to release items _with_ other folks because we want to encourage non-core contributors, and because there is already the assumption that core is involved in many patches. I

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Do you have suggested wording? --- Andreas Pflug wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta.

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is this? Prevent timestamp from supressing ':00' seconds display I think that was type interval, not timestamp. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Updated. Thanks. --- Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is this? Prevent timestamp from supressing ':00' seconds display I think that was type interval, not timestamp.

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Andreas Pflug
Joe Conway wrote: Andreas Pflug wrote: But PostgreSQL may be better than Oracle, don't you think? In the named document, snip MSSQL2000 still doesn't have row level triggers, and I doubt that 2003 has. Right, so as you've pointed out, Postgres trigger implementation is at least in some

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Oh, yes. Let me add that. I didn't realize that was a change of enough significance. How is this? Prevent timestamp from supressing ':00' seconds display --- Larry Rosenman wrote: No, the one where we always

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-05 Thread Neil Conway
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:47:36AM +0200, Andreas Pflug wrote: AFAICS the current implementation still doesn't have a way to access the affected rowset, so it'a pretty much like a SELECT without a WHERE. Yeah, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to implement this functionality during the 7.4

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-04 Thread Oleg Bartunov
PROTECTED] To: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PostgreSQL-development [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Release changes Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Regards, Oleg

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-04 Thread Andreas Pflug
Bruce Momjian wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. --- Add FOR EACH STATEMENT statement-level triggers (Neil Conway) AFAICS the current

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-04 Thread Tom Lane
Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Oleg - have you followed the latest discussion on why tsearch2 isn't compilable on FreeBSD? Nop, Teodor's development machine is FreeBSD and he has no problem :) I think the problem may only occur when

[HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. I need to work on the other sections of a major release, like a compatibility section. ---

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
No, not for 7.4. --- snpe wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:30 pm, Bruce Momjian wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. I need to

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Joe Conway
Bruce Momjian wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. Almost anything with my name on it (but certainly all the array and polymorphic function stuff) could have Tom's too, since he reviewed, polished, and applied

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Larry Rosenman
What about the interval change in ISO datestyle for zero seconds? LER --On Sunday, August 03, 2003 19:30:26 -0400 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the changes for 7.4. I am looking for any improvements. This will be adjusted as we move through beta. I need to work on the other

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)

Re: [HACKERS] Release changes

2003-08-03 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
: [HACKERS] Release changes Bruce, you forgot new contrib/tsearch2 module - full text extension (Oleg,Teodor) Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow