Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Added to TODO: * Update Bonjour to work with newer cross-platform SDK --- Sandy McArthur wrote: > FYI: The DNSServiceDiscovery.h is Mac OS X specific and only kept > around for Mac OS X 10.2 and older compatiabilit

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-11 Thread Sandy McArthur
FYI: The DNSServiceDiscovery.h is Mac OS X specific and only kept around for Mac OS X 10.2 and older compatiability. Apple has moved to a cross platform impelentation with the dns_sd.h API available for OS X, Win32, and most any posix type system. Any reference to DNSServiceDiscovery.h in pgsql sh

Re: R: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-09 Thread AgentM
Just to counter this statement- I am using postgresql mDNSReponder discovery on Linux. In my case, I have several "satellite" machines that need to send events to the database. Zeroconf makes the discovery trivial and I don't have to worry about network settings. I would like to see postg

Re: R: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
"Paolo Magnoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, wouldn't it be better to implement rendezvous with a > free/open/cross-platform implementation like Howl > (http://www.porchdogsoft.com/products/howl/) which should help avoiding > apple's "tricks"? Why bother? AFAIK, no one cares at all about bon

R: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-09 Thread Paolo Magnoli
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di Tom Lane Inviato: venerdì 9 settembre 2005 2.22 A: Joshua D. Drake Cc: Andrew Dunstan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Oggetto: Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Let

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Not I. The only thing I have ever noted with Rendezvous/Bonjour was the whole trademark issue with the name. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake I retract the above statement. As Andrew kindly pointed it out I did mention that it works on Windows. Unfortunately I was taking that from literature n

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
"borked on windows" is not necessarily the same thing as "borked on everything but apple". BTW, wasn't it you that sent in that old note that said it did work on windows? What did you test exactly? Not I. The only thing I have ever noted with Rendezvous/Bonjour was the whole trademark issu

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lets at least document the fact that it is borked on everything but > apple "borked on windows" is not necessarily the same thing as "borked on everything but apple". BTW, wasn't it you that sent in that old note that said it did work on window

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Great :-(. Well, until there's actually some value in supporting bonjour on non-Apple platforms, let's just leave the code as it is. I can't see plastering the code with a ton of #ifdefs to support something that no Windows users will care about. Lets at least document the fact that it is bor

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It gets a lot worse. The Windows SDK does not export the same API. None of the DNSfoo things we refer to in postmaster.c are defined in the supplied header file (not to mention other idiocies I was able to negotiate past). Appare

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It gets a lot worse. The Windows SDK does not export the same API. None > of the DNSfoo things we refer to in postmaster.c are defined in the > supplied header file (not to mention other idiocies I was able to > negotiate past). Apparently Apple have

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Andrew Dunstan wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Grumble. Are you going to send in a patch? I can test that the OS X side still works, but I can't test Windows. I can make a patch and see that it configures and compiles. But I can't test it. I guess that will be an advance, though. It gets

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> One possibility is that bonjour-for-windows *does* have the original >> file name (DNSServiceDiscovery.h) if you install it on a filesystem >> supporting long names, but you dropped it on an 8+3 filesystem instead? > No, that is indee

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't recall ever hearing that this has been done. bonjour is the new name of Apple's rendezvous technology, an old email (http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-05/msg00739.php) stated that rendezvous support was workin

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I don't recall ever hearing that this has been done. > bonjour is the new name of Apple's rendezvous technology, an old email > (http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-05/msg00739.php) stated > that rendezvous support was working at least on macosx and win

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread pmagnoli
Hi Andrew, you wrote: > I don't recall ever hearing that this has been done. bonjour is the new name of Apple's rendezvous technology, an old email (http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-05/msg00739.php) stated that rendezvous support was working at least on macosx and windows, so I t

Re: [HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Dunstan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to compile Postgresql 8.1 beta on my own in mingw/windows. I tried to compile it with --with-bonjour I don't recall ever hearing that this has been done. but it is looking for the wrong file, it looks for "DNSServiceDiscovery.h" but Apple provides

[HACKERS] Rendezvous/Bonjour broken in 8.1 beta

2005-09-08 Thread pmagnoli
Hi, I'm trying to compile Postgresql 8.1 beta on my own in mingw/windows. I tried to compile it with --with-bonjour but it is looking for the wrong file, it looks for "DNSServiceDiscovery.h" but Apple provides a file named "dns_sd.h" (Bonjour SDK for windows as of May 5 2005), after renaming it ./c

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? Done, in CVS. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road +

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Huh, not sure. The only thing the code does is check for DNSServiceDiscovery.h and call a function therein. No implementation details are taken care of in the Postgres source. My bet is that it only works on Mac OS X. If there was interest I'm sure we could make it work using libhowl but I don'

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:43:46AM +0200, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > On 5/7/05, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 03:30:10PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> > >> Rendezvous is the Apple network discovery protocol yes? That was renamed > >> Bonjour by apple due to a Trademark pr

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 5/7/05, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 03:30:10PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> >> Rendezvous is the Apple network discovery protocol yes? That was renamed >> Bonjour by apple due to a Trademark problem. > > Maybe we should name it Zeroconf. Is the implemented protocol IE

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 03:30:10PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >On Fri, 6 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > >>Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? > > Rendezvous is the Apple network discovery protocol yes? That was renamed > Bon

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 6 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? Rendezvous is the Apple network discovery protocol yes? That was renamed Bonjour by apple due to a Trademark problem.

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 6 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? Rendezvous is the Apple network discovery protocol yes? That was renamed Bonjour by apple due to a Trademark problem. huh? Marc G. Fournier Hub.

Re: [HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? huh? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 --

[HACKERS] rendezvous

2005-05-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Should we not change it to bonjour as that is the actual name for it? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Your PostgreSQL solutions company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Programming, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedication Hosting Co-Authors