Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-09-05 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Thomas, any status on this? If not, I should add it to the TODO list. Well, sure, there is *always* status ;) I started coding a couple of days ago. So far, no showstoppers. There are two related issues: 1) I should recode TIME WITH TIME ZONE to conform to SQL99. I had done it originally wi

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-09-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Thomas, any status on this? If not, I should add it to the TODO list. > > Is this a TODO item? > > Sure, but I'd hate to have all of these individual items showing up as > separate things in some ToDo list, since it won't paint a coherent > picture of where things are headed. > > I'm plannin

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-07-10 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> Is this a TODO item? Sure, but I'd hate to have all of these individual items showing up as separate things in some ToDo list, since it won't paint a coherent picture of where things are headed. I'm planning on doing some work on timestamp, which will include: o support for "ISO variants" on

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > I already commented what I thought about this: the current type is not > > either of the SQL-compatible timestamp types, and if we want to support > > the SQL-compatible semantics then we need three types, not two. > > Right, that was clear even to me ;) > > We were on that path for quite so

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > I believe everyone already agreed that 'current' should be removed. > > 'invalid' seems somewhat redundant with NULL, so I wouldn't object to > > taking it out; on the other hand, is it hurting anything? Also, it > > seems a bad idea to remove it from timestamp if we leave it in abstime; > >

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-06-22 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The description in pg_dump was chosen to assist with a transition in the > next version of PostgreSQL to having available a true "no time zone" > timestamp, leaving the current implementation as the "time zone aware" > type. I'm concerned about changin

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-06-20 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Lockhart writes: >> SQL9x "timestamp" has no notion of time zones. PostgreSQL "timestamp" >> does. > AFAICT, it does not. The value is stored in UTC (more or less) and is > converted to the local time zone for display. But a data type is def

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-06-18 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am confused what you are suggesting here. *** src/backend/utils/adt/format_type.c.origWed May 23 18:10:19 2001 --- src/backend/utils/adt/format_type.c Mon Jun 18 21:41:53 2001 *** *** 178,184 break;

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-06-18 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Very few people know the standards stuff so it seems we should just call > it timestamp and do the best we can. Basically by mentioning "with > timezone" we are making the standards people happy but confusing our > users. I don't believe we're making a

AW: [HACKERS] timestamp with/without time zone

2001-06-18 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> Let's switch 'timestamp with time zone' back to 'timestamp'. This just > makes no sense. Imho it only makes no sense, since the impl does not conform to standard :-( The "with time zone" requests, that the client timezone be stored in the row. The "timestamp" wants no timezone arithmetic/input