Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-13 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Peter Eisentraut wrote: There is also a big difference between supporting some proprietary software and making proprietary software a de facto requirement for participating in the development effort. Just to complete the information on this, I have it on good authority (i.e. from Larry

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:30:09AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs?

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: Why? I understood that using BitKeeper for free for Open Source projects is allowed. (but IANAL). It is available (on many platforms). It works great. Once you use changesets you'll never want to go back to cvs. There is a world of a difference between being free

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Reinoud van Leeuwen said: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:30:09AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane wrote: I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than CVS, but are they enough better to justify

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs? BitKeeper ist not open source, so it's out of the question for most

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread Joerg Hessdoerfer
Hi, On Monday 09 August 2004 09:30, you wrote: Tom Lane wrote: I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our purposes than CVS, but are they enough better to justify the switchover costs? BitKeeper ist not

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-09 Thread James William Pye
On 08/09/04:32/1, Peter Eisentraut wrote: BitKeeper ist not open source, so it's out of the question for most people. Subversion is shockingly unstable. I'm very open for something that replaces CVS, but I'd rather not use any than one of these two. From my casual usage of svn, I haven't

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-08 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 01:18:02AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe a better SCM could help with this, but I doubt it. I haven't seen any particular reason why we should adopt another SCM. Perhaps BitKeeper or SubVersion would be better for our

Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:38:10PM +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: Subversion and arch have been mentioned, but so far there is no compelling reason to change. It'd take convincing at least a couple of core hackers to get the ball rolling ... Well, I think having seen

Re: Postgres development model (was Re: [HACKERS] CVS comment)

2004-08-07 Thread Joe Conway
Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think it was a problem of committers. To me it was a problem of reviewers. Those are very scarce (for the bigger items it's mostly only Tom). Maybe a better SCM could help with this, but I doubt it. As an example, I did read the autovacuum patch, but I had no