Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com writes: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-10 Thread decibel
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Brendan Jurd wrote: We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., Status changed to Committed by petere) and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a history.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-10 Thread Josh Berkus
I think we might be better off just leaving the closed commitfests up on the wiki, and putting a notice on the app saying commitfests prior to July 2009 can be found at wiki.postgresql.org. +1. That's why we're switching technogies at the beginning of a dev cycle. -- Josh Berkus

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com writes: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the next commitfest and continue to use the wiki for July. While

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Dickson S. Guedes
Em Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:16:41 -0300, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us escreveu: I'm not particularly wedded to the wiki page history in terms of what it looks like or how it functions, but I do feel a need to know what other people have done recently. May be the new app could have a page with a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/10 Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us: While reorganizing my bookmarks for this I realized that there is a fairly significant bit of functionality that's entirely missing from the new app.  With the wiki page, you could conveniently see what had been done lately by examining the page history.  

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Joshua Tolley
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 02:35:04PM -0300, Dickson S. Guedes wrote: This could help, maybe with a RSS in that (like in git). +1 for the RSS feed, if only because I think it sounds neat :) -- Joshua Tolley / eggyknap End Point Corporation http://www.endpoint.com signature.asc Description:

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Josh Berkus
We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., Status changed to Committed by petere) and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a history. Can you put in a simple event-recording trigger for

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., Status changed to Committed by petere) and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a history. Can you put

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com writes: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/10 Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com: We don't AFAIK collect data about these events.  However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., Status changed to Committed by petere) and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a history. Can you

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com writes: Bear in mind that CF activity over the past week has been in the realm of 0-4 changes per 24 hours, so it's not like we are talking about huge amounts of throughput here. Well, it'll be more once commitfest actually starts, but in any case it's not going

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Browne
robertmh...@gmail.com (Robert Haas) writes: I suspect both are true, but in the unlikely event that we decide on some massive change to the system, we can either run the DBs in parallel as Tom suggests, or dump out the older data in Wiki markup and post it on there. But I can't imagine what

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Brendan Jurd escribió: Short answer: I could bring across the old commitfests but it would take a couple hours at best per commitfest and result in little bits of data loss here and there. I think we might be better off just leaving the closed commitfests up on the wiki, and putting a notice

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
Hi folks, We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the next commitfest and continue to use the wiki for July. Robert and I have been upgrading the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com wrote: If you think the app is fundamentally less useful than the wiki, please say so and we'll work out whether we can resolve your objection in time for the start of the CF. It's been down for a while now. I don't know if this is causal, but the failure

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com wrote: If you think the app is fundamentally less useful than the wiki, please say so and we'll work out whether we can resolve your objection in time for the start of the CF. Oh, sure -- I post about it being down, and seconds after I hit send it comes up

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov: Oh, sure -- I post about it being down, and seconds after I hit send it comes up again.   :-/ Do we know that cause? Well, no, since I've never observed it being down and I really have no idea what you mean by that. Maybe you could

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you could describe the symptoms you observed? Was the webserver totally uncontactable, or was it an error in the web app itself? When I clicked the link to edit the comment, it clocked until the browser timed out. So then I tried the URL for

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Tuesday 07 July 2009 11:29:07 Brendan Jurd wrote: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the next commitfest and continue to use the wiki

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: in the future we might want to change from a fixed list of patch sections to a free list of tags, say. Then someone might alter the application backend, and we'd use that new version for the next commit fest at the time. What will that do to the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes: With the wiki, the data of the old fests will pretty much stay what is was, unless we change the wiki templates in drastic ways, as I understand it. But if we did changes like the above, or more complicated things, perhaps, what will happen? Perhaps

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2009 11:29:07 Brendan Jurd wrote: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas escribió: I suspect both are true, but in the unlikely event that we decide on some massive change to the system, we can either run the DBs in parallel as Tom suggests, or dump out the older data in Wiki markup and post it on there. But I can't imagine what we'd want to do

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com: By the way, if the migration of the current commitfest was an automatic procedure, is there a chance that the old commitfests can be migrated as well? It wasn't really automatic as such. I used a few scripts that I saved in case we needed

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net: I have the following concern: Likely, this tool and the overall process will evolve over time.  To pick an example that may or may not be actually useful, in the future we might want to change from a fixed list of patch sections to a free list of

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-05 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com: The application stamps comments with the community login of the person who left them, but the import stamped them with names instead.  This is actually of some significance, since the app will allow you to edit your own comments but not those of

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-04 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd dire...@gmail.com writes: Please let us know if you encounter any problems with withe app, or have suggestions for improvement. It looks like every patch and comment is timestamped ... but with yesterday (the time of data import, I suppose). This is much worse than useless. If

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
On suggestions for improvement: I need to be able to bookmark the commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki page). The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
I tried the New Patch Comment feature. It's absolutely horrid. I get a page showing a comment type button, one line for Message-ID, and one line for Content. No explanation of what those are, and no visibility any more of the patch I'm trying to comment on. I have no idea what I'm supposed to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: On suggestions for improvement: I need to be able to bookmark the commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki page).  The current URL seems to be

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: I tried the New Patch Comment feature.  It's absolutely horrid. I get a page showing a comment type button, one line for Message-ID, and one line for Content.  No explanation of what those are, and no visibility any more of the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Robert Haas wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: On suggestions for improvement: I need to be able to bookmark the commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki page). The current URL seems to be

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to be stable over the long

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: I tried the New Patch Comment feature.  It's absolutely horrid. I get a page showing a comment type button, one line for Message-ID, and one line for Content.  No explanation of what

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Heikki Linnakangasheikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: Robert Haas wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: On suggestions for improvement: I need to be able to bookmark the commitfest summary list (whichever page is

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Treat
On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 14:06 -0400, Robert Treat wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: The current URL seems to be

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Joshua D. Drakej...@commandprompt.com wrote: O.k. I am probably blowing something out of the water here but do we need yet another domain? Because it's installed on a different VM and I don't want to move it just to make the URL look different? ...Robert --

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Andrew Chernow
Robert Treat wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Chernowa...@esilo.com wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to be stable over the long term. I'm not sure why you would think

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Hi, Le 3 juil. 09 à 20:44, Robert Haas a écrit : - Adding stable links with mnemonic names for the open, in progress, and most recently closed commitfests. May I suggest something looking about like: http://commitfest.postgresql.org/current http://commitfest.postgresql.org/open

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Andrew Chernow
I *am* using some kind of key. Specifically, in integer derived from a serial column. It's just as stable as 16 random bytes displayed in hex, but a lot shorter and easier to remember, if you're the sort of person who likes to remember URLs. :-) Wasn't aware of exately what you were doing.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dimitri Fontainedfonta...@hi-media.com wrote: Your software seems to be better than a wiki, but its potential users are expressing needs and bikescheding. I think you'd better accept both kind of changes as long as it's not making your life much harder than you'd

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Chernowa...@esilo.com wrote: I *am* using some kind of key.  Specifically, in integer derived from a serial column.  It's just as stable as 16 random bytes displayed in hex, but a lot shorter and easier to remember, if you're the sort of person who likes

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: Backing up for a moment to ten thousand feet here, I posted a link to this web app on May 26th. I received several comments on it, all of them positive, including some constructive feedback from you which I took to heart. It is now July 1st, and I am

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: Backing up for a moment to ten thousand feet here, I posted a link to this web app on May 26th.  I received several comments on it, all of them positive, including some constructive

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Kevin Grittner
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it should be. It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random. What are the chances that the date or

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it should be. It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up with the same date, the order is probably

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Kevin Grittner
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Currently, it seems that most or all of the entries are links to archived messages. Scraping the date from the underlying message would be the best thing. Just for purposes of conversion, or as a long-term behavior? -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Currently, it seems that most or all of the entries are links to archived messages. Scraping the date from the underlying message would be the best thing. Just for purposes of conversion, or as a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote: I accept the need for and am willing to make the following changes: - Changing the patch comment field from type text to type textarea and integrating it into the patch view page to provide context. - Adding a note to the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it should be. It seems to be inconsistent.  Probably because

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/4 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: What are the chances that the date or timestamp of the corresponding wiki modification could be put onto the patch and comment

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: It seems to be inconsistent.  Probably because everything wound up with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/4 Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us: No, what we're complaining about is the ordering of comments for a single patch. Now moot, since I've successfully pulled the dates for all comments with a message-id from the archives, and updated the database accordingly. Cheers, BJ -- Sent via

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com:  Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. Update: The reviewer names have now been populated. Cheers, BJ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org)

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Brendan Jurddire...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/3 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com:  Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. Update: The reviewer names have now been populated. looks

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Jaime Casanova jcasa...@systemguards.com.ec: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Brendan Jurddire...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/3 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com:  Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. Update: