Re: [PATCHES] Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-20 Thread Brook Milligan
Projects that are as organized, professional, and value-adding as yours is can surely stand on their own. I compare this to the recently released OpenFTS. If we start including projects of this size we'd explode in size and maintenance overhead. Doesn't this discussion indicate that

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
Paul Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, if I have an RPM-based installation, I *will* have > the server headers I need. Why do we discriminate against people who > compile from the tarball? We don't. We do, however, assume that they read the installation instructions: The standa

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-15 Thread Timothy H. Keitt
I would take a hard look at R's extension packaging system (www.r-project.org). Its the best in the business. It consolidates all aspects of creating packages, including configuring, building, run-time linking, documentation and testing. It also allows non-root users to install packages in

Re: [PATCHES] Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Brook Milligan writes: > Doesn't this discussion indicate that the time is fast approaching, if > not already past, for some type of system for handling installation of > 3rd party software? Yes. > - Definition and implementation of the interface to be provided for > extensions. Presumably,

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-15 Thread Paul Ramsey
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > The 7.1 RPMs should contain the server side headers somewhere. Earlier > versions only included a not very well defined subset of them. Indeed they do (nice!), which brings me to a different question: 1 - I download the tarball 2 - ./configure ; make ; make install

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Paul Ramsey writes: > - One of the things we have run up against is that for most linux > distributions, the postgresql-devel package does not include postgres.h > in the header package. This is not necessary for client-side programs, > but it is for server-side extensions. So people cannot compi

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-14 Thread Paul Ramsey
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Projects that are as organized, professional, and value-adding as yours is > can surely stand on their own. I compare this to the recently released > OpenFTS. If we start including projects of this size we'd explode in size > and maintenance overhead. Fair enough... p

Re: [PATCHES] Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Paul Ramsey writes: > Perhaps we could back up at this point and revisit 'contrib' ... at what > point in the size/licence/redundace spectrum do we become reasonable > candidates for 'contrib', if ever? The current tenor seems to be that at > 600K/GPL/point-line-polygon we are "too big"/"too rest

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-13 Thread Paul Ramsey
Dave Blasby wrote: > > The next question is, of course, what does 'semi-compliant' mean? Or, > more interesting, why would you want a semi-compliant database? For > most people's simple tasks, the built in geometry types are adequate. > Those interested in doing more complex tasks will probably

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-13 Thread Dave Blasby
Tom Lane wrote: > > Dave Blasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [snip] Vivid Solutions (cf. > > http://www.vividsolutions.com/jts/jtshome.htm) will be releasing it > > under the LGPL. > > [snip] > > This leaves the option for creating a semi-compliant OpenGIS core inside > > PostgreSQL and having

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
Dave Blasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip] Vivid Solutions (cf. > http://www.vividsolutions.com/jts/jtshome.htm) will be releasing it > under the LGPL. > [snip] > This leaves the option for creating a semi-compliant OpenGIS core inside > PostgreSQL and having a LGPL add-on for the complex sp

Re: [HACKERS] PostGIS spatial extensions

2001-08-13 Thread Dave Blasby
I think it would be great for PostgreSQL to be an 'OpenGIS Simple Feature Specification for SQL' compliant database with robust spatial operators right-out-of-the-box. Currently, PostGIS implements most of the OpenGIS specification. The unimplemented portions are the important; spatial operator