Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-06-01 Thread Tom Lane
Heikki Linnakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is also a lot of other functionality that throws "not implemented" > errors if you try to use 2PC with them. For example, DDL and > notifications. Why would DDL be different from any other query? regards, tom lane ---

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-06-01 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On Thu, 27 May 2004, Christopher Browne wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) wrote: > > Win32 has 98% of its code in CVS, so it will make it > > Tablespaces - Christopher says it is ready, and has run tests > > PITR - some functionality might be in 7.5, but we aren't sure > >

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-06-01 Thread Greg Stark
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PITR may turn out to be a "don't care" item if Slony1 winds up > providing its own approach to PITR. (e.g. - if you write out to > disk the sets of SQL statements that are to be applied to a replica, > then the spooled sets of these statements rep

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-31 Thread Christopher Browne
The world rejoiced as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) wrote: > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > This is the only place where I see hardly any movement on major >> > items the whole development cycle, then a rush of radical changes >> > just before

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-31 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) wrote: > Win32 has 98% of its code in CVS, so it will make it > Tablespaces - Christopher says it is ready, and has run tests > PITR - some functionality might be in 7.5, but we aren't sure > Nested transactions - Alvaro thinks it is close,

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-29 Thread Greg Stark
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This is the only place where I see hardly any movement on major items the > > whole development cycle, then a rush of radical changes just before the > > freeze. > > [blink] There's been plenty of stuff done all t

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is the only place where I see hardly any movement on major items the > whole development cycle, then a rush of radical changes just before the > freeze. [blink] There's been plenty of stuff done all through this development cycle (and previous ones to

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Greg Stark
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Reality check --- why should they keep going if the stuff if appication > is going to be months away, and these big features are going to change > CVS significantly anyway? > > Let's be honest --- if they aren't going to make it, they will stop > work

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Off the top of my head ... the Installer and Service Manager come to mind ... and Tom's fsync changes ... Right now, I'd say fe

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Off the top of my head ... the Installer and Service Manager come to mind > >>> ... and Tom's fsync changes ... > >> > >>> Right now, I'd say feature

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Off the top of my head ... the Installer and Service Manager come to mind ... and Tom's fsync changes ... Right now, I'd say feature freeze is looking more like next Friday (June 4th), and we'r

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Off the top of my head ... the Installer and Service Manager come to mind > ... and Tom's fsync changes ... > Right now, I'd say feature freeze is looking more like next Friday (June > 4th), and we're evaluate it then ... that should hopefully giv

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Magnus Hagander wrote: Today is May 28. So if nobody will not commit above within 3 days, non of them will be in 7.5(8.0). Am I correct? Not necessarily ... there are several Win32 related features that still haven't been committed (that I've seen) that will push back the relea

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Magnus Hagander
>> Today is May 28. So if nobody will not commit above within 3 >days, non >> of them will be in 7.5(8.0). Am I correct? > >Not necessarily ... there are several Win32 related features >that still >haven't been committed (that I've seen) that will push back >the release, >and hopefully give so

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Off the top of my head ... the Installer and Service Manager come to mind > > ... and Tom's fsync changes ... > > > Right now, I'd say feature freeze is looking more like next Friday (June > > 4th), and we're evaluate it then .

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
> I certainly get the feeling that things are being rushed just a bit too > much, and think having a extra few days of breathing space makes sense. > > cheers > > andrew I have that feeling too, and I'm working still working on pg_autovacuum integration which I was hoping to get in, so I would we

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Andrew Dunstan wrote: The Installer is a pgFoundry project, and unaffected by feature freeze. See http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org (Note: Magnus hasn't put anything there yet, though.) 'k, wasn't sure about that one ... but the SVC and fsync stuff is still outstand

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2004, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: Hi Bruce, Is that core's decision that: o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 We don't know. If they can be added to CVS without major changes, they will be in 7.5. As far as I can tell: Win32 has 98%

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Mike Mascari
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Right now, I'd say feature freeze is looking more like next Friday (June 4th), and we're evaluate it then ... that should hopefully give the above time to flesh out and get into CVS ... Speaking of CVS, a CERT advisory was issued yesterday documenting a vulnerability: ht

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: Hi Bruce, Is that core's decision that: o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 We don't know. If they can be added to CVS without major changes, they will be in 7.5. As far as I can tell: Win32 has 98% of its code in CVS, so

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > Is that core's decision that: > > > > > > o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 > > > > We don't know. If they can be added to CVS without major changes, they > > will be in 7.5. As far as I can tell: > > > > Win32 has 98% of its code in

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> Ok, BTW have we decided that next verison is marked as 7.5 or 8.0? > No. Some argue that an 8.0 should only be done if we break backward > compatibility, while others feel major features should cause an 8.0. In any case, it's prem

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > Ok, BTW have we decided that next verison is marked as 7.5 or 8.0? No. Some argue that an 8.0 should only be done if we break backward compatibility, while others feel major features should cause an 8.0. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Ok, BTW have we decided that next verison is marked as 7.5 or 8.0? -- Tatsuo Ishii > Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Is that core's decision that: > > > > o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 > > We don't know. If they can be added to CVS without major change

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > Is that core's decision that: > > o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 We don't know. If they can be added to CVS without major changes, they will be in 7.5. As far as I can tell: Win32 has 98% of its code in CVS, so it will

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Nearing our June 1 feature freeze, we now have patches for all our major outstanding features. Their status is: Win32 - almost done, fsync needed, bug fixes, etc PITR - Simon is away until Sunday and we are working on it Nested transactions - patch needs review, trigger iss

Re: [HACKERS] Win32, PITR, nested transactions, tablespaces

2004-05-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Hi Bruce, Is that core's decision that: o below all four major features will be incorporated into 7.5 o beta freeze will be June 1 In the upcoming big event "Linux World" (in Tokyo, from June 2 to 4) I need to present about current status of PostgreSQL development. Even if cores have not decided