Selena Deckelmann wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I'm game, though I'm hoping not to become the guy who spends all
his time doing release planning, because I like writing code, too.
Hopefully Selena won't mind my mentioning that she
Greg Sabino Mullane g...@turnstep.com writes:
We also very occasionally step in and make a decision if -hackers (or
another group) is deadlocked over an issue. For example, the whole
'change the name' debate.
I wouldn't really hold that up as a shining example of a core decision. :)
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We also very occasionally step in and make a decision if -hackers (or
another group) is deadlocked over an issue. For example, the whole
'change the name'
Greg,
Time to start lobbying for the name change again I suppose. As Bruce said
two years ago in August 2007:
Man, you are a masochist, aren't you?
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On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 07:22:27PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
potential for making
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Isn't core supposed to be the release manager?
The core team has historically been the release *maker* and has some
done management of the final phases of that process. But
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drakej...@commandprompt.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Isn't core supposed to be the release manager?
The core team has historically been the release
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:41 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drakej...@commandprompt.com
wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Isn't core supposed to be the release
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Joshua D. Drakej...@commandprompt.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:41 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joshua D. Drakej...@commandprompt.com
wrote:
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 07:44 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On ons, 2009-09-02 at
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 12:00 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
O.k. so the second part of this, is I feel it should contain a majority
of people who are not already being slammed into the ground by community
work. E.g; let's get some fresh blood. It is certainly important to have
a couple of long
Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote:
/me pokes Robert Haas and Kevin Grittner
I'm honored to be suggested for such a role. I'm happy to do what I
can, but am reluctant to put myself too squarely in any critical path,
as I have responsibility for dealing with some family health
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I'm game, though I'm hoping not to become the guy who spends all
his time doing release planning, because I like writing code, too.
Hopefully Selena won't mind my mentioning that she sent me a private
email
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
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On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 10:21 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
I think we
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2. Agreed, Peter?
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
So I think it would make sense for you guys to do Alpha2.
I'm not really clear on what that means. I'm assuming that part of
the goal is for us to become more intimately familiar with the details
of putting together a release, documenting the process, and
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
Uh, what's the point of that? The existing core team has that process
perfectly well in hand. What I
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
Uh, what's the point of that? The
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Selena, Robert, Brendan, Kevin,
One of the ideas behind the Alpha releases was to give someone other
than the core team some practice doing releases.
Uh, what's the point of that? The
* Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote:
She would definitely be a good option if she has time. I know that I
would be interested and I would like to see at least one long time
-hacker on board.
I don't presume to be a long time -hacker, but I'm interested in what I
can do to help
2009/9/4 Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com:
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 12:00 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
And /me pokes Brendan Jurd. :-)
Hah! I almost listed him. /me adds a poke to Brendan Jurd.
/me stirs from sleep to announce huh? whaddyawant?
Seriously though, I have been keeping an eye
Robert Haas wrote:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
count we now have four votes for a 4-CF schedule and one for a 3-CF
Robert Haas wrote:
I think this is a good illustration of the problems with
decision-making in a community environment - given choices 3 and 4
most of the votes were somewhere between 3.25 and 3.75. I think,
in general, that when people weigh in with clear opinions, we're
pretty good about
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Linnakangasheikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote:
That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
potential for making people cross, so in practice I think as
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Linnakangasheikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote:
That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
first step. That's a lot of work and responsibility, with lots of
Joshua D. Drake escribió:
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Linnakangasheikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote:
That implies that we need a release manager. Electing one would be the
first step. That's a lot of work
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Alvaro
Herreraalvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Joshua D. Drake escribió:
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Linnakangasheikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote:
That implies that we need a
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Alvaro
Herreraalvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Joshua D. Drake escribió:
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:50 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Heikki
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
Previous emails from Tom seem to indicate that the mandate of -core is
mostly to decide things like the timing of releases. If we gave that
job to somebody else, would there be anything left for -core to do?
If so, what? And on the flip side, it is
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Robert Haasrobertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
Previous emails from Tom seem to indicate that the mandate of -core is
mostly to decide things like the timing of releases.
That's not all we do.
If we gave that
job to somebody else, would there be anything left for
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
Anyway, I'm still curious about what'n'all -core actually does.
Not a lot. That's a feature, not a bug. Most project management
discussion happens on -hackers. If -hackers can't come to a decision
then core will try to resolve the deadlock (assuming
Robert, Heikki,
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
count we now have four votes for a 4-CF schedule and one for a 3-CF
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Josh Berkusj...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Robert, Heikki,
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01651.php
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-08/msg01983.php
Josh's schedule was subsequently endorsed by Simon Riggs. So by my
count
On ons, 2009-09-02 at 12:52 -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Isn't core supposed to be the release manager?
The core team has historically been the release *maker* and has some
done management of the final phases of that process. But I think the
sentiment is growing that we need more management
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