Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: All, Whatever we pick, someone will be confused by it and about equal numbers regardless. Let's just stick with the current patch. Or we could call it extraint conclusions. ;-) I vote for extraint confusions. -- Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: ... original patch. Sorry. Let's not fiddle with the names. To be clear, as things stand now, the new command is: ALTER TYPE name ADD VALUE new_enum_value [ { BEFORE | AFTER } existing_enum_value ] So while the term in the SQL statement

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: ... original patch.  Sorry.  Let's not fiddle with the names. To be clear, as things stand now, the new command is:    ALTER TYPE name ADD VALUE new_enum_value [ {

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Robert Haas wrote: So while the term in the SQL statement is VALUE, it's called a label in the documentation. I think that's confusing. Does anyone else? Yes. As between the two options, I favor changing the command. And let's also paint it pink. Would that

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 14:48 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:01 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: ... original patch. Sorry. Let's not fiddle with the names. To be clear, as things stand now, the new

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 11/22/2010 06:36 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: Patch attached. Thanks, I'll look at this shortly. I think it needs a little bit more, which I'll do. In particular, we should now avoid using the word 'value' to refer to the internal representation of an enum - that will just be confusing.

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Lane
David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com writes: Patch attached. Most of those changes seem like they make it less readable, not more so. In particular I don't find it an improvement to replace textual label with textual value. I think of value as meaning some abstract notion of a particular enum

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 11/22/2010 06:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: David E. Wheelerda...@kineticode.com writes: Patch attached. Most of those changes seem like they make it less readable, not more so. In particular I don't find it an improvement to replace textual label with textual value. I think of value as

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes: On 11/22/2010 06:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Maybe instead of textual label, we should say name? But that doesn't seem like quite le mot juste either. label is actually a pretty good word for the text representation of an enum value. Oh my boots and

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes: On 11/22/2010 06:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Maybe instead of textual label, we should say name?  But that doesn't seem like quite le mot juste either.  label is actually a pretty good

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Oh my boots and buttons. I think we're splitting some very fine hairs here. A few weeks back you were telling us that label wasn't a very good word and shouldn't be sanctified in the SQL. It isn't a very good word for the abstract value, IMO,

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Josh Berkus
All, Whatever we pick, someone will be confused by it and about equal numbers regardless. Let's just stick with the current patch. Or we could call it extraint conclusions. ;-) -- -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc.

Re: [HACKERS] s/LABEL/VALUE/ for ENUMs

2010-11-22 Thread Josh Berkus
On 11/22/10 5:38 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: All, Whatever we pick, someone will be confused by it and about equal numbers regardless. Let's just stick with the current patch. ... original patch. Sorry. Let's not fiddle with the names. Or we could call it extraint conclusions. ;-)