Re: [HACKERS] SunOS4

2001-02-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> I've been working to make PostgreSQL run on SunOS4 (again). I have committed massive changes for SunOS4 port. Tested on: SunOS 4.1.4 Vine Linux 2.1 (variant of RedHat Linux 6.2J) FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Please let me know if I have broken something. -- Tatsuo Ishii

[HACKERS] Re: SOLVED: COPY doesn't works when containing ' ' or ' ' characters on db

2001-02-27 Thread Jaume Teixi
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:16:35 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jaume Teixi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I finally percated that when data contains 'ñ' or 'à' it's impossible to > > parse trought: > > > COPY products FROM '/var/lib/postgres/dadesi.txt' USING DELIMITERS '|' \g > > >

Re: [HACKERS] Idea for reducing planning time

2001-02-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If you like I'll post the patch, but it strikes me as a waste of list > >> bandwidth --- anyone who is likely to actually review it is perfectly > >> capable of doing cvs diff for themselves ... > > > Posting patch is only useful if you want people

AW: [HACKERS] CommitDelay performance improvement

2001-02-27 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB
> > I agree that 30k looks like the magic delay, and probably 30/5 would be a > > good conservative choice. But now I think about the choice of number, I > > think it must vary with the speed of the machine and length of the > > transactions; at 20tps, each TX is completing in around 50ms. I thi

Re: AW: [HACKERS] CommitDelay performance improvement

2001-02-27 Thread Philip Warner
At 10:56 27/02/01 +0100, Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote: > >> > I agree that 30k looks like the magic delay, and probably 30/5 would be a >> > good conservative choice. But now I think about the choice of number, I >> > think it must vary with the speed of the machine and length of the >> > transact

[HACKERS] Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Steffen Emil Thorkildsen
Hi, I have an application which has an queue of data it has to insert into a table in a local database. the insert-queries syntax is all the same, and the values are the only thing that differs. The insert-query looks like this: INSERT INTO "table" VALUES(a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h) ...but I canno

Re[4]: [HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] A patch for xlog.c

2001-02-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Xu Yifeng wrote: > Hello Tom, > > Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 12:45:18 PM, you wrote: > > TL> Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I know it is easy for you, but the number of reports and problems we > >> hear about shows it is an issue for some. > > TL> We hear som

Re: [HACKERS] RE: Re: [ADMIN] v7.1b4 bad performance

2001-02-27 Thread Vadim Mikheev
> So 7.0.3 is twice as fast only with fsync off. Are there FK updates/deletes in pgbench' tests? Remember how SELECT FOR UPDATE in FK triggers affects performance... Also, 5 clients is small number. Vadim P.S. Sorry for delays with my replies - internet connection is pain here: it takes 5-10 min

Re: [HACKERS] WAL does not recover gracefully from out-of-disk-space

2001-02-27 Thread Vadim Mikheev
>> Regardless of whether this particular behavior is fixable, >> this brings up something that I think we *must* do before >> 7.1 release: create a utility that blows away a corrupted >> logfile to allow the system to restart with whatever is in >> the datafiles. Otherwise, there is no recovery t

Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Morning all ... > > Are there any major outstandings that ppl have on their plates, > that should prevent a release? I'd like to put out an RC1 by Friday this > week, with a full release schedualed for March 15th ... this would give > Thomas his two weeks fo

[HACKERS] Re: Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Robert Schrem
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, you wrote: > Hi, > > I have an application which has an queue of data it has to insert into > a table in a local database. the insert-queries syntax is all the same, > and the values are the only thing that differs. The insert-query looks > like this: > > INSERT INTO "table

[HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] A patch for xlog.c

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> I don't know about other 'commercial OSs', but I'd be shocked if a Linux > admin never does any kernel config cleanup befor egoing production *shrug* oops... - Thomas

Re: [HACKERS] SunOS4

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tatsuo Ishii writes: > > I've been working to make PostgreSQL run on SunOS4 (again). > > I have committed massive changes for SunOS4 port. Tested on: > > SunOS 4.1.4 > Vine Linux 2.1 (variant of RedHat Linux 6.2J) > FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE > > Please let me know if I have broken something. I think t

Re: [HACKERS] Idea for reducing planning time

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom, do you have a plan to make a back patch for 7.0.3? No, I don't. No time for it now. > I got a bug report from a user with a script to reproduce the > problem. Seems the backend consumes infinite memory. Not infinite, surely ;-) ... but possibly m

Re: [HACKERS] Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Steffen Emil Thorkildsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have an application which has an queue of data it has to insert into > a table in a local database. the insert-queries syntax is all the same, > and the values are the only thing that differs. The insert-query looks > like this: > INSERT I

Re: [HACKERS] 'postgres -Q' in test/bench

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marko Kreen writes: > test/bench/{create|runtest}.sh uses switch '-Q' for > postgres, but postgres gives error on it. Otherwise > seems working, only lots of debug output is seen. Replace it with '-d 0'. I'm not sure these benchmark tools are maintained at all. contrib/pgbench seems to be pre

[HACKERS] Re: Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Gunnar R|nning
Steffen Emil Thorkildsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > me. Are there ways to precompile a sqlquery or do other tricks to get the > *fastest* insertion-rate, since the data-queue is growing faster than > 200/sec... I don't care about integrity etc! > > I'm using PostgreSQL 7.0.3, RH 6.2 Linux 2.2

Re: Re[3]: [HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] A patch for xlog.c

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
The Hermit Hacker writes: > I don't ... I personally admin FreeBSD and Solaris boxen ... FreeBSD, > first step is to always recompile the kernel after an install, to get rid > of crud and add Shared Memory ... the Solaris boxes, you add a couple of > lines to /etc/system and reboot, and you have

Re: Re[4]: [HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] A patch for xlog.c

2001-02-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > could anyone investigate mmap() in many modern UNIX systems to prove that > > mmap() is so un-portable? > > > > it seems mmap() is a portable problem like you said, but I think SYSV > > shmem for PGSQL is a installation problem. you push some difficults to > > end user, and take easy taskes fo

Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
The Hermit Hacker writes: > Are there any major outstandings that ppl have on their plates, > that should prevent a release? I'd like to put out an RC1 by Friday this > week, with a full release schedualed for March 15th ... this would give > Thomas his two weeks for the docs freeze ... I

Re: Re[3]: [HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] A patch for xlog.c

2001-02-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > The Hermit Hacker writes: > > > I don't ... I personally admin FreeBSD and Solaris boxen ... FreeBSD, > > first step is to always recompile the kernel after an install, to get rid > > of crud and add Shared Memory ... the Solaris boxes, you add a cou

Re: [ADMIN] COPY doesn't works when containing ' ' or ' ' characters on db

2001-02-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Tom Lane wrote: >Jaume Teixi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I finally percated that when data contains '' or '' it's impossible to >> parse trought: > >> COPY products FROM '/var/lib/postgres/dadesi.txt' USING DELIMITERS '|' \g > >> it causes: > >> SELECT edicion FROM products;

Re: [ADMIN] COPY doesn't works when containing ' ' or ' ' characters on db

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
"Oliver Elphick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think this happens when the front-end encoding is SQL_ASCII and the > database is using UNICODE. Then, there are misunderstandings between > front-end and back-end, so that a single character with the eighth bit > set may be sent by the front-end a

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Mario Weilguni
(...) > > > > I don't care about integrity etc! > > You should !-) > > You can find some valueable tips in the documentation: > http://www.de.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/7.0/user/c4929.htm > In the docs there is this paragraph: >Disable Auto-commit > > Turn off auto-commit and just do one co

Re: [HACKERS] SunOS4

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have committed massive changes for SunOS4 port. Tested on: > SunOS 4.1.4 > Vine Linux 2.1 (variant of RedHat Linux 6.2J) > FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE > Please let me know if I have broken something. Everything still builds and passes regression on HPUX, but I

[HACKERS] beta5 and unixware 711

2001-02-27 Thread Olivier PRENANT
Hi all, I've been trying to play with beta5 today on unixware 711. I have 2 problems: 1) enabling --with-tcl yields to link errors on bin/pgtclsh and interfaces/pl/tcl because Makefile insists on linking with libtcl7.6.0 instead on libtcl7.6 2) enabling --with-openssl causes a compilation erro

Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Emmanuel Charpentier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yep ! As of beta4, the ODBC driver is still seriously broken (the > original libpsqlodbc.so.0.26 doesn't even connect. A version patched by > Nick Gorham allows some connectivity (you can query the DB), but still > has some serious breakage (i. e.

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Vince Vielhaber writes: > is regression.out and/or regression.diff deleted if the tests pass? I've > never seen all tests pass so I don't know but I just had someone tell me > that it does. We've come to a point where all tests should pass all the time on all supported platforms. If they don't

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Vince Vielhaber writes: > > > is regression.out and/or regression.diff deleted if the tests pass? I've > > never seen all tests pass so I don't know but I just had someone tell me > > that it does. > > We've come to a point where all tests should pa

Re: [HACKERS] beta5 and unixware 711

2001-02-27 Thread Larry Rosenman
* Olivier PRENANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010227 13:30]: > Hi all, > > I've been trying to play with beta5 today on unixware 711. I have 2 > problems: > > 1) enabling --with-tcl yields to link errors on bin/pgtclsh and > interfaces/pl/tcl because Makefile insists on linking with libtcl7.6.0 > inst

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Vince Vielhaber writes: > It was a snapshot - no idea what kind of shape it was in and I don't > recall how I did the check, but it may have been installcheck. Even snapshots should work all the time. If not, it should be reported, not posted to a web page. > Either way my question still needs

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Vince Vielhaber writes: > > > > > is regression.out and/or regression.diff deleted if the tests pass? I've > > > never seen all tests pass so I don't know but I just had someone tell me > > > that it

Re: [HACKERS] beta5 and unixware 711

2001-02-27 Thread Olivier PRENANT
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Larry Rosenman wrote: > * Olivier PRENANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010227 13:30]: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been trying to play with beta5 today on unixware 711. I have 2 > > problems: > > > > 1) enabling --with-tcl yields to link errors on bin/pgtclsh and > > interfaces/pl/tcl

Re: [HACKERS] beta5 and unixware 711

2001-02-27 Thread Larry Rosenman
* Olivier PRENANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010227 15:00]: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > * Olivier PRENANT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010227 13:30]: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I've been trying to play with beta5 today on unixware 711. I have 2 > > > problems: > > > > > > 1) enabling --

[HACKERS] Database Internals Presentation

2001-02-27 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have completed a database internals presentation. The PDF is at: http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/internals.pdf I am interested in any comments. I need to add text to it. FYI, you will find a system catalog chart in the presentation. -- Bruce Momjian

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Either way my question still needs to be answered. If there are no >> errors, is regression.out and regression.diff deleted? I can see the >> diff file being empty, but deleted? > The diff file always exists; if all tests passed, it's empty. Forg

Re: [HACKERS] regression.out and regression.diff

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The test output should come from 'gmake check', not the test against an > already installed server ('installcheck'). >> >> It was a snapshot - no idea what kind of shape it was in and I don't >> recall how I did the check, but it may have been install

[HACKERS] Re: mmap for zeroing WAL log

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had assumed that the overhead would come from synchronous > metadata incurring writes of at least the inode, block bitmap > and probably an indirect block for each syscall. No Unix that I've ever heard of forces metadata to disk after each "write"

[HACKERS] Re: mmap for zeroing WAL log

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Tom Lane wrote: > >> I am confused why mmap() is better than writing to a real file. > > > It isn't, except that it allows to initialise the logfile in > > one syscall, without first allocating and zeroing (and hence > > dirtying) 16Mb of memory. > > Uh, the existing code d

Re: [ODBC] Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Hiroshi Inoue
Tom Lane wrote: > > Emmanuel Charpentier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yep ! As of beta4, the ODBC driver is still seriously broken (the > > original libpsqlodbc.so.0.26 doesn't even connect. A version patched by > > Nick Gorham allows some connectivity (you can query the DB), but still > > has

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [ADMIN] COPY doesn't works when containing ' 'or ' ' characters on db

2001-02-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> "Oliver Elphick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think this happens when the front-end encoding is SQL_ASCII and the > > database is using UNICODE. Then, there are misunderstandings between > > front-end and back-end, so that a single character with the eighth bit > > set may be sent by the f

RE: [BUGS] Problem with 7.0.3 dump -> 7.1b4 restore

2001-02-27 Thread Rainer Mager
Attached is a single INSERT that shows the problem. The character after the word "Fiber" truncates the text when using JDBC. NOTE, the text IS in the database, that is, the dump/restore seems ok, the problem is when trying to read the text later. The database is UTF8 and I just tested with beta 5.

[HACKERS] RE: [BUGS] Problem with 7.0.3 dump -> 7.1b4 restore

2001-02-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Attached is a single INSERT that shows the problem. The character after the > word "Fiber" truncates the text when using JDBC. NOTE, the text IS in the > database, that is, the dump/restore seems ok, the problem is when trying to > read the text later. The database is UTF8 and I just tested with

[HACKERS] RE: [BUGS] Problem with 7.0.3 dump -> 7.1b4 restore

2001-02-27 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Attached is a single INSERT that shows the problem. The character after the > word "Fiber" truncates the text when using JDBC. NOTE, the text IS in the > database, that is, the dump/restore seems ok, the problem is when trying to > read the text later. The database is UTF8 and I just tested with

[HACKERS] Re: Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> > Are there any major outstandings that ppl have on their plates, > > that should prevent a release? I'd like to put out an RC1 by Friday this > > week, with a full release schedualed for March 15th ... this would give > > Thomas his two weeks for the docs freeze ... > I'm interested to k

[HACKERS] Re: Query precompilation?

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Lockhart
Mario Weilguni wrote: > > (...) > > > > > > I don't care about integrity etc! > > > > You should !-) > > > > You can find some valueable tips in the documentation: > > http://www.de.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/7.0/user/c4929.htm > > > > In the docs there is this paragraph: > >Disable Auto-c

Re: [ODBC] Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> I have a copy of OpenOffice for LinuxPPC but have not figured out how to > tell it to connect to Postgres. If someone can slip me a clue on how to > configure it and do simple database stuff with it, I'll try to clean up > the most pressing ODBC problems before we release. I've got a clue for

[HACKERS] BLCKSZ 0?

2001-02-27 Thread Dominic J. Eidson
Any suggestion why postmaster/postgres would think it had been compiled with BLCKSZ 0? : root@blue:/usr/local/pgsql# su postgres -c "bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data " DEBUG: Data Base System is starting up at Tue Feb 27 22:31:51 2001 FATAL 2: database was initialized with BLCKSZ 0,

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm interested to know what exactly takes two weeks with the docs and what >> could be done to speed it up. > The "official" version of the story is that it takes ~10-20 hours for me > to work through the docs to format them for hardcopy with ApplixW

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Tom Lane wrote: > > Scrappy has proposed that we start that period now. Were the concerns > > about WAL etc enough to hold off on that, or are we counting down from > > now? > > I'm pretty concerned about WAL, but have no good reason not to start > the release countdown. Fig

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] BLCKSZ 0?

2001-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
"Dominic J. Eidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Any suggestion why postmaster/postgres would think it had been compiled > with BLCKSZ 0? : > root@blue:/usr/local/pgsql# su postgres -c "bin/postmaster -D > /usr/local/pgsql/data " > DEBUG: Data Base System is starting up at Tue Feb 27 22:31:51 2

Re: [ODBC] Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Thomas Lockhart wrote: >> I have a copy of OpenOffice for LinuxPPC but have not figured out how to >> tell it to connect to Postgres. If someone can slip me a clue on how to >> configure it and do simple database stuff with it, I'll try to clean up >> the most pressing ODBC problems befor

Re: [ODBC] Re: [HACKERS] Release in 2 weeks ...

2001-02-27 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> >I've got a clue for ApplixWare, if you happen to have that package > >(US$90). > Please post it, Thomas. > I got nowhere following their instructions. Uh, who's instructions? We have a writeup on Applix and ODBC in the docs. Have you found those, or are those falling short of helpful?