Re: [HACKERS] Are these groups unauthorized?

2002-06-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday 28 June 2002 10:46 am, Tom Lane wrote: Guido Ostkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sure, a lot of people would be happy, if those groups were officially introduced and hosted on many international newservers. Yup. Are you

Re: [HACKERS] Are these groups unauthorized?

2002-06-29 Thread Guido Ostkamp
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guido Ostkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sure, a lot of people would be happy, if those groups were officially introduced and hosted on many international newservers. Yup. Are you volunteering to be the proponent who shepherds a vote through the

[HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
From the ToDo list: Vacuum: * Provide automatic running of vacuum in the background (Tom) As of 7.2 we have lazy vacuum. The next logical step is setting up vacuum to run automatically in the background either as some type of daemon or as something kicked off by the postmaster. I am

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Matthew T. O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As of 7.2 we have lazy vacuum. The next logical step is setting up vacuum to run automatically in the background either as some type of daemon or as something kicked off by the postmaster. I am interested in working on this to do item, although

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread J. R. Nield
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 20:14, Tom Lane wrote: Matthew T. O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second: There was some discussion (http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-05/msg00970.php) about this not being neede once UNDO is on place, what is the current view on this? I do

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
J. R. Nield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not think that is the case; and anyway we've pretty much rejected Vadim's notion of going to an Oracle-style UNDO buffer. Could someone point me to this discussion, or summarize what the problem was? I'm too lazy to dig through the archives at the

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: J. R. Nield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not think that is the case; and anyway we've pretty much rejected Vadim's notion of going to an Oracle-style UNDO buffer. Could someone point me to this discussion, or summarize what the problem was? I'm too lazy to dig

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread J. R. Nield
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 21:55, Tom Lane wrote: J. R. Nield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not think that is the case; and anyway we've pretty much rejected Vadim's notion of going to an Oracle-style UNDO buffer. Could someone point me to this discussion, or summarize what the problem

Re: [HACKERS] Vacuum Daemon

2002-06-29 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
On Saturday 29 June 2002 08:14 pm, Tom Lane wrote: Launching VACUUMs on some automatic schedule, preferably using feedback about where space needs to be reclaimed, seems like a pretty straightforward small-matter-of-programming. The thing that would really be needed to make it unobtrusive is