Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Joe Conway
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Christopher Kings-Lynne writes: I'm just interested in what everyone's personal plans for 7.5 development are? There are still some low-hanging fruit and some below-the-cloudy-sky-hanging fruit in there, for instance [...snip...] Basic array support ^^^ I

Re: [HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-11-27 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
After installing 7.4 I created database completely from scratch with cyrillic locale: su postgres export LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.KOI8-R export LC_COLLATE=ru_RU.KOI8-R /usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /db2/pgdata You need to go: /usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /db2/pgdata -E KOI8 To set the default encoding t

Re: [HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-11-27 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
Le Jeudi 27 Novembre 2003 20:56, E.Rodichev a écrit : > After installing 7.4 I created database completely from scratch > with cyrillic locale: Dear Evgeny, If you want to go 'fast', do not hesitate to install pgAdmin3 GUI from http://www.pgadmin.org. We will be able to create and manage a databa

Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore and create FK without verification check

2003-11-27 Thread Jan Wieck
ow wrote: --- Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People might be more interested in debating this topic with you if we hadn't discussed it at length just a couple months back. There wasn't consensus then that we had to offer an escape hatch, and you've not offered any argument that wasn't made b

Re: [HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
E.Rodichev writes: > I just noticed some incorrect behaviour for postgresql-7.4 related > to locale. Maybe you should first read the documentation to understand how it actually works. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)

[HACKERS] Encoding problem with 7.4

2003-11-27 Thread E.Rodichev
Hi, I just noticed some incorrect behaviour for postgresql-7.4 related to locale. After installing 7.4 I created database completely from scratch with cyrillic locale: su postgres export LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.KOI8-R export LC_COLLATE=ru_RU.KOI8-R /usr/local/pgsql/bin/initdb -D /db2/pgdata /usr/local/pg

Re: [HACKERS] building outside source tree

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Neil Conway writes: > Building PostgreSQL outside the source tree is slightly broken: I've installed a patch that should fix this. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 06:30:54PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Alvaro Herrera writes: > > > (I will probably be doing lots of translation work too, or maybe enable > > someone else to do it ...) > > I think in 7.5 we'll be able to get everything fully translat{ed|able}. > We already have ini

Re: [HACKERS] Viewing Parse Tree of a query from front end

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Gardner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 November 2003 1:12 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Jonathan Gardner writes: > > I know this sounds kind of silly, but I think I would like to be able > > to send a query to PostgreSQL, and have it parse it into a tree, and > > then pass th

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Alvaro Herrera writes: > (I will probably be doing lots of translation work too, or maybe enable > someone else to do it ...) I think in 7.5 we'll be able to get everything fully translat{ed|able}. We already have initdb, and we'll do ecpg, pg_ctl, and decide the fate of initlocation and ipcclean

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Christopher Kings-Lynne writes: > I'm just interested in what everyone's personal plans for 7.5 > development are? Here is a pretty good hit list: http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/unsupported-features-sql99.html There are still some low-hanging fruit and some below-the-cloudy-sky-h

Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore and create FK without verification check

2003-11-27 Thread Andreas Pflug
ow wrote: I'd like to emphasize again that NOT having an index on the FK column is a perfectly valid approach, despite some opinions to the contrary. OW, you might insist that there are several cases when an index is not needed, but I didn't propose to create the index automatically (this real

Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore and create FK without verification check

2003-11-27 Thread Andreas Pflug
Kevin Brown wrote: WAL is not the bottleneck ... as I already mentioned today, pg_clog (and more specifically the meaning of transaction IDs) is what really makes a cluster an indivisible whole at the physical level. The ability to restore a single large database quickly is, I think, a reasonabl

Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore and create FK without verification check

2003-11-27 Thread ow
--- Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In what scenarios? I'd easily buy this if you are talking about small > tables. > Read the message again. __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/

Re: [HACKERS] Providing anonymous mmap as an option of sharing memory

2003-11-27 Thread Tom Lane
Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> And that helps how? The problem is to detect whether there are any >> children left from the old postmaster, when what you have to work from >> is the pid-file it left behind. > fine. We need shared memory for that. How about us

Re: [HACKERS] pg_restore and create FK without verification check

2003-11-27 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:11:20PM -0800, ow wrote: > --- Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 12:40:28AM +0100, Andreas Pflug wrote: > > > > > A common mistake, can't count how often I created this one... And not > > > easy to find, because EXPLAIN won't explain

[HACKERS] support of compound words in contrib/tsearch2

2003-11-27 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Hi there, new version of tsearch2 is available for testing from http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/tsearch/V2 * tsearch-v2-7.3.tar.gz - full archive for 7.3.X releases * tsearch-v2-7.4.patch.gz - patch for 7.4 release Changes: * Implement support of compound words in ispell diction

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Dave Cramer
Stephen, You can do whatever you can do with an insert now, so yes, I think that is possible. Even if the current patch doesn't do that, it would certainly be a start. Dave On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 10:21, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Dave Cramer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > There is a patch floating

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Stephen Frost
* Dave Cramer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > There is a patch floating around for informix load/unload > > the syntax is load from 'file' insert into , and unload to 'file' > select "whatever you like" > > Would this solve the problem? I'm not sure. It depends on what you can do with the '...

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Stephen Frost
* Rod Taylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How about COPY into a TEMP TABLE for 10k lines, then do an > insert into real_table select from temp_table; > which converts the data? > > You could of course thread the load so 2 or 3 processes execute the data > import. Sure, this would work,

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Dave Cramer
There is a patch floating around for informix load/unload the syntax is load from 'file' insert into , and unload to 'file' select "whatever you like" Would this solve the problem? Dave On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 09:38, Rod Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 09:28, Stephen Frost wrote: > > *

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Rod Taylor
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 09:28, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Bruno Wolff III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 09:15:20 -0500, > > Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't believe it's possible, currently, to correctly import this > > > data with copy. I'm not sur

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruno Wolff III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 09:15:20 -0500, > Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe it's possible, currently, to correctly import this > > data with copy. I'm not sure the date fields would even be accepted > > as date field

Re: [HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 09:15:20 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe it's possible, currently, to correctly import this > data with copy. I'm not sure the date fields would even be accepted > as date fields. It'd be nice if this could be made to work. Fro

[HACKERS] Functions with COPY

2003-11-27 Thread Stephen Frost
Hi, Consider the following input data: 1234,24.50,10-Jan-2003,10/1/03,10-01-2003,hiall The interpretation for the numbers is: 1234 = 12.34, 24.50 = 24.50 The interpretation for the dates is: January 10th, 2003, October 1st, 2003, October 1st, 2003 I don't believe it's possible, cur

[HACKERS] about explain analyze

2003-11-27 Thread Teodor Sigaev
Hello! Explain analyze takes 3 times more time for execution. Why? wow=# \timing Timing is on. wow=# select max(click.accesses) from click; max -- 10944762 (1 row) Time: 105,654 ms wow=# explain analyze select max(click.accesses) from click;

Re: [HACKERS] $Id$ -> $PostgreSQL$ Change

2003-11-27 Thread Rod Taylor
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 00:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Based on discussions on -hackers, and baring any objections betwen now and > then, I'm going to go through all files in CVS and change: > > $Id$ -> $PostgreSQL$ > > I will do this the evening of Friday, November 29th ... I presume you

Re: [HACKERS] 7.5 Plans

2003-11-27 Thread Doug McNaught
Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> 1. You can't easily generate a clean diff of your local version against >> the original imported from postgresql.org. The changes you actually >> made get buried in a mass of useless $Foo$ diff lines. Stripping those >> out is

Re: [HACKERS] timestamp convert function

2003-11-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 09:49:22AM +0100, Nhan NGO DINH wrote: > Hi, > > This is really not a problem, may be in other circumstances... > This output has been obtained from a PostgreSQL 7.3.4 > > === > testdb=# select to_timestamp('23:20:30.123456', 'HH24:MI:SS.US')::time; > to_timestamp >

Re: [HACKERS] Viewing Parse Tree of a query from front end

2003-11-27 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Jonathan Gardner writes: > I know this sounds kind of silly, but I think I would like to be able to > send a query to PostgreSQL, and have it parse it into a tree, and then pass > the tree back to me somehow. Of course, I don't want the query to actually > execute. There is a configuration parame

[HACKERS] timestamp convert function

2003-11-27 Thread Nhan NGO DINH
Hi, This is really not a problem, may be in other circumstances... This output has been obtained from a PostgreSQL 7.3.4 === testdb=# select to_timestamp('23:20:30.123456', 'HH24:MI:SS.US')::time; to_timestamp - 23:20:30.123459 (1 row) testdb=# select to_timestamp('23:20:30', 'H

[HACKERS] Viewing Parse Tree of a query from front end

2003-11-27 Thread Jonathan Gardner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know this sounds kind of silly, but I think I would like to be able to send a query to PostgreSQL, and have it parse it into a tree, and then pass the tree back to me somehow. Of course, I don't want the query to actually execute. Writing the fro