Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
http://okbob.blogspot.com/2009/03/experimental-psql.html
The source code is available on pgfoundry
Regards
Pavel Stehule
2011/4/19 David Fetter da...@fetter.org:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 06:02:53PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
On 20.04.2011 06:48, Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
I can find no concrete reference to problems about locale
names containing dots. Is the following an example?
Yes.
In my environment (Windows Vista using VC8)
setlocale(LC_, Chinese (Traditional)_MCO.950);
works and
setlocale(LC_,
Robert Haas wrote:
pgindent seems to have muffed it when it comes to BulkInsertStateData:
diff --git a/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c b/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c
index 2849992..72a69e5 100644
--- a/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c
+++ b/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c
@@ -150,7 +150,7 @@
(2011/04/15 3:43), Robert Haas wrote:
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Shigeru HANADA
han...@metrosystems.co.jp wrote:
In addition to the 2nd GRANT above, GRANT SELECT (colour) ON stuff TO
user_a (omitting TABLE) will succeed too because parser assumes that
the target object is a regular table
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
postgres=# SELECT things, count(*) FROM stuff GROUP BY things COLLATE C;
ERROR: column stuff.things must appear in the GROUP BY clause or be
used in an aggregate function
LINE 1: SELECT things, count(*) FROM stuff GROUP BY
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
While I was out at the MySQL conference last week, I heard that one of
the forthcoming MySQL features is time-delayed replication:
Incidentally, this is a popular Oracle feature. It's a poor man's
flashback and similar to
Hello
yesterday I was asked about this feature
+1
Regards
Pavel
2011/4/20 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com:
While I was out at the MySQL conference last week, I heard that one of
the forthcoming MySQL features is time-delayed replication:
http://forge.mysql.com/worklog/task.php?id=344
I found that DROP OWNED BY can cause $SUBJECT.
How to reproduce the error:
CREATE USER foo;
ALTER DEFAULT PRIVILEGES GRANT ALL ON SEQUENCES TO foo;
DROP OWNED BY foo;
Attached patch would fix this issue.
Regards,
--
Shigeru Hanada
diff --git a/src/backend/catalog/aclchk.c
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu wrote:
I haven't read the patch but are you delaying delivering the log or
delaying replaying it? I think you actually want the latter so in case
of a real failure you can choose between replaying the last 5 minutes
and recovering
On 04/19/2011 11:53 AM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net wrote:
I think the best thing might be to add a new step which runs the
isolation check or installcheck. It would only need a small amount
of perl code adde3d to the client to accomplish, and nothing on
the
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
While I was out at the MySQL conference last week, I heard that one of
the forthcoming MySQL features is time-delayed replication:
Incidentally, this is a popular Oracle feature.
Hiroshi Inoue in...@tpf.co.jp writes:
In my environment (Windows Vista using VC8)
setlocale(LC_, Chinese (Traditional)_MCO.950);
works and
setlocale(LC_, NULL);
returns
Chinese (Traditional)_Macao S.A.R..950
but
setlocale(LC_, Chinese (Traditional)_Macao S.A.R..950);
(2011/04/20 15:30), Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 20.04.2011 06:48, Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
I can find no concrete reference to problems about locale
names containing dots. Is the following an example?
Yes.
In my environment (Windows Vista using VC8)
setlocale(LC_, Chinese
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu wrote:
I haven't read the patch but are you delaying delivering the log or
delaying replaying it? I think you actually want the latter so in case
of a real failure
Hello List,
We are getting the following log while configuring hot standby,
2011-04-20 17:34:40 ETC/GMT FATAL: the database system is starting up
2011-04-20 17:34:41 ETC/GMT FATAL: database system identifier differs
between the primary and standby
2011-04-20 17:34:41 ETC/GMT DETAIL: The
Hiroshi Inoue in...@tpf.co.jp writes:
I see another issue for the behavior.
For example, the following code in src/backend/utis/adt/pg_locale.c
won't work as expected in case the current locale is Hong Kong, Macao or
UAE because the last setlocale() in the code would fail. I can
find such
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:28 AM, rajibdk rajib.d...@siemens.com wrote:
We are getting the following log while configuring hot standby,
2011-04-20 17:34:40 ETC/GMT FATAL: the database system is starting up
2011-04-20 17:34:41 ETC/GMT FATAL: database system identifier differs
between the
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
It's interesting, but it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, which
is to allow every client, not just psql, to do this.
Cheers,
David.
--
David Fetter
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_stage_log.pl?nm=crakedt=2011-04-20%2010%3A17%3A02stg=isolation-check
On a cursory scan, that looks like a successful run of the right
test suite. Was there anything in particular I should be checking
there?
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:36:14PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:58:30AM -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
When we're done with the relkind-restriction patch, I'll post a new
version of
this one. ?It will
Shigeru Hanada han...@metrosystems.co.jp writes:
Attached patch implements along specifications below. It also includes
documents and regression tests. Some of regression tests might be
redundant and removable.
1) GRANT privilege [(column_list)] ON [TABLE] TO role also work for
foreign
2011/4/20 David Fetter da...@fetter.org:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
It's interesting, but it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, which
is to allow every client, not just psql, to do this.
On 04/20/2011 09:54 AM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net wrote:
http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_stage_log.pl?nm=crakedt=2011-04-20%2010%3A17%3A02stg=isolation-check
On a cursory scan, that looks like a successful run of the right
test suite. Was there
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Namely, that when reindexing an
existing index, there cannot be any need to advance the index's
indcheckxmin horizon.
Note that if isvalid is not set then we don't know anything about the
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
How would we keep track of the most recent timestamp received from the
master without replaying the WAL records?
Well as we receive them we would have to peek at them to see the time.
Or we could have the master send its
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of mié abr 20 10:54:56 -0300 2011:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
It's interesting, but it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, which
is to allow
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
How would we keep track of the most recent timestamp received from the
master without replaying the WAL records?
Well as we receive them we would have to peek at them to see the time.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Hmm, good point. We can probably handle this by tweaking the logic in
reindex_index that changes indisvalid so that it will force indcheckxmin
on when indisvalid had been false and there were any possibly-broken
HOT chains.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
My idea of how to manage it would be to have walreceiver explicitly
track the clock difference from the master, which it can do since
walsender puts its current time into every message header. You can use
the slave's clock
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Hmm, good point. We can probably handle this by tweaking the logic in
reindex_index that changes indisvalid so that it will force indcheckxmin
on when indisvalid had been false and there
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
Ah, so we did put the master's clock in every message?
Yes, we did.
Then this
should be simple, no? Just compare the master's timestamp from the
record to the last master's clock seen in the messages. That sounds
equivalent but a lot safer than trying to
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:26:01AM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 19:34 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:44:53PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 21:57 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
* Users can CREATE TABLE OF on a type they don't
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of mié abr 20 10:54:56 -0300 2011:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
It's
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:44:53PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 21:57 -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
* Inheriting from a typed table blocks further type DDL
CREATE TYPE t AS (x int);
CREATE TABLE parent OF t;
CREATE TABLE child () INHERITS (parent);
ALTER TYPE
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
How would we keep track of the most recent timestamp received from the
master without replaying the WAL records?
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Shigeru Hanada han...@metrosystems.co.jp writes:
Attached patch implements along specifications below. It also includes
documents and regression tests. Some of regression tests might be
redundant and removable.
1) GRANT
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
I am a bit concerned about the reliability of this approach. If there
is some network lag, or some lag in processing from the master, we
could easily get the idea that there is time skew between the machines
when there really isn't. And our
On 04/20/2011 05:48 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Robert Haas wrote:
pgindent seems to have muffed it when it comes to BulkInsertStateData:
diff --git a/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c b/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c
index 2849992..72a69e5 100644
--- a/src/backend/access/heap/hio.c
+++
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 05:48 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
BulkInsertStateData is not listed in the typedef list supplied by
Andrew; see src/tools/pgindent/typedefs.list. CC'ing him. This might
be because the typdef is listed in two files:
It's tagged as a
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
System indexes really
shouldn't be that much different from ordinary indexes. The property
we actually are relying on is that there can't be any HOT chains that
break the index, because it existed before any updates could
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
It's tagged as a structure type by objdump, but not as a typedef:
140055: Abbrev Number: 4 (DW_TAG_typedef)
40056 DW_AT_name: (indirect string, offset: 0x6bf6):
BulkInsertState
4005a DW_AT_decl_file : 30
4005b DW_AT_decl_line : 32
Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 05:48 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
BulkInsertStateData is not listed in the typedef list supplied by
Andrew; see src/tools/pgindent/typedefs.list. CC'ing him. This might
be because the typdef is listed in two files:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
Ah, so we did put the master's clock in every message?
Yes, we did.
And by we I mean you I realize I'm tossing in comments from
the peanut gallery to you and especially Robert who worked
Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of mar abr 19 03:34:34 -0300 2011:
As Robert noted, the purpose of the commitfest mechanism is mostly to
ensure that patches that *are* committable, or close to it, don't fall
through the cracks. I'm not sure we're doing anybody any favors by
trying to
Greg Stark gsst...@mit.edu writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
System indexes really
shouldn't be that much different from ordinary indexes. The property
we actually are relying on is that there can't be any HOT chains that
break the index, because it
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
Now having said that, there seems to be a pgindent bug here too, in that
it's throwing a space into
Buffer
RelationGetBufferForTuple(Relation relation, Size len,
Buffer otherBuffer, int options,
struct BulkInsertStateData * bistate)
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 04:00:12PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
2011/4/20 David Fetter da...@fetter.org:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
Hello
I played with psql extensions two years ago - it can do it
It's interesting, but it doesn't solve the
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
Now having said that, there seems to be a pgindent bug here too, in that
it's throwing a space into
Buffer
RelationGetBufferForTuple(Relation relation, Size len,
Buffer otherBuffer, int options,
struct
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
I think this is historical revisionism. ...
Somewhere down the line this seems to have been forgotten and we are now
using commitfests just to track finished patches.
So if we want to stick to the original principles we should have some
sort
On 04/20/2011 11:43 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 05:48 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
BulkInsertStateData is not listed in the typedef list supplied by
Andrew; see src/tools/pgindent/typedefs.list. CC'ing him. This might
be because the typdef is
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
But in any case, *none* of the individual files knows about
BulkInsertStateData as a typedef:
...
And the reason is actually fairly obvious on closer inspection. The only
place we actually use the BulkInsertStateData typedef (as opposed to the
On 04/20/2011 11:48 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
I assume you are using -g, right?
Of course I did. I wouldn't have any symbols at all if I didn't.
The BulkInsertStateData typedef looks pretty normal:
typedef struct BulkInsertStateData
{
BufferAccessStrategy
On 04/20/2011 12:29 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net writes:
But in any case, *none* of the individual files knows about
BulkInsertStateData as a typedef:
...
And the reason is actually fairly obvious on closer inspection. The only
place we actually use the
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Well, I absolutely think that we need to encourage people to get
feedback at the design and prototype stages. The problem with the
commitfest mechanism for that is that when you are trying to work out a
patch, you don't want
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
So in the case at hand, we actually *need* to remove the struct from
RelationGetBufferForTuple's declaration, so that BulkInsertStateData
gets used as a typedef name in that way.
Since the general form seems to be to
Aidan Van Dyk ai...@highrise.ca writes:
Since the general form seems to be to declare things as:
typedef struct foo { ... } foo;
Is there any reason why we see any struct foo in the sources other
than in the typedef line?
It gives an escape hatch in case you need a forward reference to
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:36:14PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:58:30AM -0400, Noah Misch wrote:
When we're done with the
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
I did carefully warn you about the need to check the effects of the changes
when I committed the new list.
It looks like quite a few of the deletions come into this category, for
example just looking at the diff here
Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
I did carefully warn you about the need to check the effects of the changes
when I committed the new list.
It looks like quite a few of the deletions come into this category, for
example just
On 04/20/2011 01:12 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net wrote:
I did carefully warn you about the need to check the effects of the changes
when I committed the new list.
It looks like quite a few of the deletions come into this
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
I think this is historical revisionism. ...
Somewhere down the line this seems to have been forgotten and we are now
using commitfests just to track finished patches.
So if
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
You can contribute to the list by running a buildfarm animal on your machine
and running its find_typedefs occasionally. This is not just about me. I
have asked on numerous occasions for other people to contribute, and
On 04/20/2011 01:16 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
This implies to me that we changed something about how we handle this
since we did the 9.0 runs, but I don't know what it was. Should I?
I think Andrew also supplied the typedef list for the 9.0 run.
Yes. But in November, the server where all
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Merlin Moncure mmonc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of mié abr 20 10:54:56 -0300 2011:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:05:07AM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 17:52 +0100, Greg Stark wrote:
I admit though this whole concept of finished patches seems foreign
to me. I always have additional stuff I want to do and if the patch
sits on the shelf I'm essentially stuck unable to work on the next
great thing that that patch enables.
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 12:21 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Well, I absolutely think that we need to encourage people to get
feedback at the design and prototype stages. The problem with the
commitfest mechanism for that is that when you are trying to work out
a patch, you don't want to wait around
Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
You can contribute to the list by running a buildfarm animal on your machine
and running its find_typedefs occasionally. This is not just about me. I
have asked on numerous occasions for other
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 01:35:03PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Merlin Moncure mmonc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of mié abr 20 10:54:56 -0300 2011:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
It is precisely this kind of issue that leads me to believe it would
be counter-productive to come up with any client-specific hacks.
These definitional issues exist on the server, too, and weren't
considered early enough
On 04/20/2011 01:59 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
I do, agree, though, it would be nice to find out what changed that
caused this.
I am 100% certain that it's the tools that have changed. I bet if I were
to hunt in my pile of old DVDs and find installation media for Fedora 6
or thereabouts and
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 02:12:25PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
It is precisely this kind of issue that leads me to believe it would
be counter-productive to come up with any client-specific hacks.
These definitional issues
On 04/20/2011 01:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Aidan Van Dykai...@highrise.ca writes:
Since the general form seems to be to declare things as:
typedef struct foo { ... } foo;
Is there any reason why we see any struct foo in the sources other
than in the typedef line?
It gives an escape hatch
Robert,
Unfortunately, my memory of this project only goes back to about
September 2008, which isn't far enough to remember why CommitFests
were created in the first place. So Alvaro may be correct in saying
that things have mutated over time, but that isn't necessarily a bad
thing. Maybe
What with the recent discussions, I've been looking harder at the
REINDEX code's interactions with HOT, and I've found another problem
altogether. To wit, IndexBuildHeapScan considers the DELETE_IN_PROGRESS
case to be comparable to RECENTLY_DEAD, but that analogy fails for
HOT-updated tuples. If
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
I think we should put less temporal emphasis on the finishing part, but
use the time better. I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long. Then everyone can really concentrate on the
commit fest, people get faster feedback, but
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
I think we should put less temporal emphasis on the finishing part, but
use the time better. I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long. Then everyone can really concentrate on the
commit fest, people get
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Review of design concepts and WIP patches has *always* been a problem
for this project. Andrew Sullivan bitched about it at some length back
in 2004 (Why there is no traffic on pgsql-replicationhooks, but
Andrew's blog is
On 4/20/11 12:00 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
Please provide the evidence that this is a problem that exists now, as
opposed to seven years ago.
Since you're clearly already made up your mind that no problem exists, I
don't have the energy to fight it out with you.
--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote:
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
I think we should put less temporal emphasis on the finishing part, but
use the time better. I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:39:47 PM Josh Berkus wrote:
Robert,
Unfortunately, my memory of this project only goes back to about
September 2008, which isn't far enough to remember why CommitFests
were created in the first place. So Alvaro may be correct in saying
that things have
On 04/20/2011 12:05 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 4/20/11 12:00 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
Please provide the evidence that this is a problem that exists now, as
opposed to seven years ago.
Since you're clearly already made up your mind that no problem exists, I
don't have the energy to fight it out
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 09:09:48 PM Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote:
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
Yeah, maybe. To do that, we'd have to strongly resist the temptation to
spend a lot of time fixing
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote:
On 04/20/2011 12:05 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 4/20/11 12:00 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
Please provide the evidence that this is a problem that exists now, as
opposed to seven years ago.
Since you're clearly already
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:23 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 02:12:25PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
It is precisely this kind of issue that leads me to believe it would
be counter-productive
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:53:34 PM Andres Freund wrote:
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
I think we should put less temporal emphasis on the finishing part, but
use the time better. I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long. Then
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote:
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 08:50:04 PM Tom Lane wrote:
Yeah, maybe. To do that, we'd have to strongly resist the temptation to
spend a lot of time fixing up submitted patches
On 4/20/11 12:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Well, no, that's not the whole story. To me, what the above idea
implies is shifting more of the burden of fixing up patches away from
the committer and back to the patch author. Instead of spending time
fixing up not-quite-ready patches myself, I'd be
Robert,
Absolutely. And I am perfectly well aware that we have screwed this
up from time to time. But I also know that I have spent a very large
amount of time over the last few years trying to improve things. It
would be nice to know whether that has had any impact. If it hasn't,
then
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
On 4/20/11 12:00 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
Please provide the evidence that this is a problem that exists now, as
opposed to seven years ago.
Since you're clearly already made up your mind that no problem exists, I
don't have
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 01:16 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
This implies to me that we changed something about how we handle this
since we did the 9.0 runs, but I don't know what it was. Should I?
I think Andrew also supplied the typedef list for the 9.0 run.
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long.
BTW, just as a thought experiment: what about a one-day CF once a week?
Patch Tuesdays, if you will. Spend all day reviewing/committing,
bounce back whatever is not ready, patch
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:54, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes:
I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long.
BTW, just as a thought experiment: what about a one-day CF once a week?
Patch Tuesdays, if you will. Spend all day
On 04/20/2011 04:09 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:54, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Peter Eisentrautpete...@gmx.net writes:
I would imagine one commit fest per month, but
it's only a week long.
BTW, just as a thought experiment: what about a one-day CF once a
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
It's still true though that you have to be REINDEXing system catalogs to
be at risk, else you shouldn't be seeing any IN_PROGRESS tuples.
So the fix seems to be that we make REINDEX on a system catalog lock
the whole catalog
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Urbański wrote:
Ouch, just today I found a flaw in this, namely that it assumes the
lineno from the traceback always refers to the PL/Python function. If
you create a PL/Python function that imports some code, runs it, and
that code raises an
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 04:09 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:54, Tom Lanet...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
BTW, just as a thought experiment: what about a one-day CF once a week?
Patch Tuesdays, if you will. Spend all day reviewing/committing,
Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 04/20/2011 01:16 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
This implies to me that we changed something about how we handle this
since we did the 9.0 runs, but I don't know what it was. Should I?
I think Andrew also supplied the typedef list
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 11:39 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
Maybe we don't want to use ReviewBoard specifically. Maybe we want
to use bugzilla or Crucible or Redmine something more specific for
patch/spec review. But I think it's time to try something else, maybe
several other things.
I had
Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
It's still true though that you have to be REINDEXing system catalogs to
be at risk, else you shouldn't be seeing any IN_PROGRESS tuples.
So the fix seems to be that we make REINDEX
Tom,
True, and any fixed day of the week would let out X number of people
anyway. But ignoring scheduling difficulties, my point here is that
it seems like the shorter the cycle, the better, for a lot of purposes.
Can we do any better than once-a-month, or is that the limit given that
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