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I don't get your not getting this 'cause you're a very smart guy.
Are you under the impression that an attacker will stop because he
has to try a few times?
No, I'm saying that having access
cause?
5. What costs and tradeoffs does the security solution impose?
Let's start with step 1 and go forward from there.
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just finalizing a
new, more flexible, type mapping implementation for PL/Java and it
would be easy to add support for more pseudo types too. But what
others would make sense?
Ideally, some way to get all kinds of user-defined types. DOMAINs,
too. :)
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CREATE DOMAIN
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postgres=#
postgres=# CREATE TABLE dual();
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On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 01:22:55PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:09:28AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
postgres=# CREATE TABLE dual();
CREATE TABLE
You forgot to populate it.
Oh, right. :)
postgres=# CREATE TABLE dual AS SELECT 1;
SELECT
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departments. PGDG doesn't have one, and if it did, it
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this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering
to do?
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On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:13AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and
pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down
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) PostgreSQL database, it may be impossible to get
space for twice or more that. Giving people the option to stream
COPYs through a pipe would alleviate a lot of pain.
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[1] A feature people seem to think we don't need, although convincing
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clauses based on two columns, and x some simple
value that can be easily calculated by looking at the data in
advance.
That would be neat :)
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of some sort, and other, which are
always biased, and never good.
What's at issue here is a biased estimator, not a biased sample. If
you know an unbiased estimator of multiplicity based on a random
sample, that would be a great :)
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strongly favor the second option as being more flexible
than the first.
+1 :)
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:57:24AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a reasonable way to add an optional param or two to mark
time zones, or should that just the application programmer's
hassle?
The return type should be timestamptz, which makes
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:51:24PM -0500, Doug McNaught wrote:
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Any chance of putting up a torrent for it? I'd be happy to
host, but I'd have to get the link on the downloads page somehow
people didn't speak up when this was
first raised. :-)
I did :)
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. It provides support for
both JS and JS deficient users.
I think you are writing to the wrong mailing list for phpPgAdmin
issues.
I think he's writing to the right lists to get testers. If he's not,
it's my fault for suggesting it to him :)
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. Even if there were zero overhead for this, which there
couldn't be, you'd have a real problem auditing attempted actions.
This would be a very big problem when trying to track down a rogue app
and/or a denial of service attack.
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the database, there are some sticky
situations that need to be considered, but it shouldn't break much.
We're eagerly awaiting your patch.
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than using the service file?
What Andrew asked.
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only way to be sure.
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as needed. What plans do
we have to integrate PL/J?
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help, though :)
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 05:09:32PM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
On 7/13/06, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. multiple values clauses for INSERT
I would be very happy to see it accepted.
Same here.
aolMe, too!/aol
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On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 06:07:01PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 03:20:51PM -0300, Bruce Momjian wrote:
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Done:
o -Display IN, INOUT, and OUT parameters in \df
Oops! Should I change the patch to say
to calculate right now (you'd need = 65536).
I haven't thought yet how to parse or implement this, but would
people find this useful?
Absolutely! :)
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that gives an integer
(4) seems the most reasonable to me in terms of interface and
implementation.
I'm for (4), as it's also what people are used to from things like
GNU's -h option.
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version from about 6.4 forward ...
See above for why it's good also to have it surfaced to SQL :)
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David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 09:44:10PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
The correct solution is for client-side libraries to provide the
feature.
Not if the app is written in SQL, as the bootstrap
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 12:17:57PM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
On 7/30/06, David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Failure to parse means the transaction bails out, which is just
what I want in my case, as it disallows people attempting to run
the programs--they're for DBI-Link--on too early
in order to get 64-bit
arithmetic, but I figure it's good enough to get a discussion started.
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with { or dimension information
postgres=#
I starting work on it. I hope It will be done before current feature freeze.
Regards
Pavel Stehule
It seems Pavel missed sending the preliminary patch, so here it is :)
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 05:40:16PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Fetter wrote:
This patch changes the data type from unsigned int to unsigned
long long, which is probably not the correct thing in order to
get 64-bit arithmetic, but I figure it's
out the PostgreSQL Weekly News.
Thanks in advance for your help with this :)
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:27:33AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 09:44:10PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
The correct solution is for client-side libraries to provide
-backend, i.e. when the
function is invoked. There's also some possibility that something
might go into %_SHARED.
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Breaking New Ground.
We're definitely not done yet. :)
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claim.
3. Should the person claiming the feature not communicate to -hackers
for some period--I'm thinking 3 weeks is about right--the item goes
back in the unclaimed pool with a message to -hackers saying that
that's what's happened.
What say?
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EXECUTE IMMEDIATE
LANGUAGE plperl
$$...$$
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JOIN ...
Anyhow, the idea is to be able to call PL functionality in-line
without having to create a function in advance.
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to call other
versions, too, like
SELECT
CALL IMMEDIATE
LANGUAGE plpython $$...$$ (a, LOWER(b))
AS wacky_python_output
FROM ...
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On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:37:56PM -0700, Neil Conway wrote:
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 12:40 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
While I am not going to reopen the can of worms labeled 'bug
tracker', I think it would be good to have a little more formality
as far as claiming items goes.
What say
to PostgreSQL can generally choose their place of work and to
a large degree, their salaries, so let's not get too excited about how
this is only a matter of selfless generosity.
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This thing is why I've been continuing the patches review on
PostgreSQL Weekly News :)
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VALUES() statement is by itself?
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On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 01:58:14PM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
On 8/9/06, Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Congratulations for your new job.
Seconded!
We now have a quorum. ;)
I vote yes!
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On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 09:14:16PM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
Today on IRC David Fetter and some others were discussing version
numbers and we realized that although libpq now provides the version
of Postgres as a number, this is still a wheel that is being
reinvented by apps many times
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. Glad someone else replied. ;-)
If you're looking for votes, +1. I'll gladly take a subset of the
SQL standard UPDATE table SET (...) = (...) over having nothing.
+1 here, too. :)
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people figure out what to do with them from there. If no one demands
full inclusion in a couple of versions, let's take it out.
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On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 11:45:43AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
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Our distribution is not a place to experiment with things.
That's what separate pgfoundry projects are for. The fact we
have some unusual things in /contrib is not a reason to add
more.
If it's
that a \set variable lets people use minimal
intrusiveness on scripts, etc., as they'll just set it when they start
needing cursor-ized result sets and unset it when finished.
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On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:31:02AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
Folks,
I've found a little lacuna in the RETURNING feature, that being in
PL/Perl's spi_prepare()/spi_execute_prepared() as illustrated in the
attached file on CVS TIP.
I think that fixing this is a matter of post-RETURNING
(Object Language Binding)
Part 11: SQL/Schemata
Part 13: SQL/JRT (Java Routines and Types)
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David Fetter wrote:
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 07:46:57PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Here is an new XML section for our SGML documentation. It
explains the various XML capabilities, if we support them, and
how to use them
to double check the results of my
ad-hoc updates before committing them saved me more headaches than
I can count with Oracle. Autocommit off only became practical for
interactive use with postgres when savepoints showed up.
+1
+1 here, too :)
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On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 12:48:32PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 08:37:19PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Speaking of other parts of the SQL:2003 standard, how about one
section each that mentions them? There's
Part 4: SQL/PSM
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:16:06PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 12:48:32PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 08:37:19PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Speaking of other parts of the SQL:2003 standard
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:38:43PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
We claim SQL standard compliance,
No, we don't. And SQL conformance doesn't require you to implement
all parts anyway.
Right. It'd be nice to be able to tell what level of conformance we
have to which
and .vimrc files in the source (in, say,
src.tools).
The docs/FAQ would just say that we use BSD style with tab space 4
and refer to the sample files.
thoughts?
If we put them in a place that's visible before you get the source, we
can help people use the settings globally :)
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thoughts?
If we put them in a place that's visible before you get the source,
we can help people use the settings globally :)
The likely level of our influence on someone who hasn't used the
settings
to the infamous tarbaby of bug/issue trackers. It's
time we took that head-on instead of dancing around it.
As expressed many times earlier, such a system must be accessible,
both for read and write, by email. What other things must it do?
Should it do? Must it avoid?
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on that's silently down for a week
with no ETAs in sight for getting any piece of it back on line.
Bruce, are you ready to help create a more bus-proof situation? If
so, what specific steps would you like to take in that direction?
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avoid redundancy).
I don't find this very persuasive --- it sounds awfully messy, and
in fact isn't that exactly the old behavior we got rid of because no
one could understand it?
Guillaume's the author of pgfouine, which understands it and helps
others to do same.
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values over the duration of an anonymous set of queries.
How heavily loaded is the server is a perfectly legitimate metric to
have available, especially when more detailed, i.e. more invasive
probes could bring it down.
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same. :)
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= 1MB # min 64kB
(The native units are of course still shown in the documentation
for reference.)
+1 for the change :)
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should probably move this forward or back one day.
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compelling enough to force a switch, it is
a substantive difference that we can actually see.
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will be in 1.6 at
http://www.pgadmin.org/development/changelog.php
Could you clarify this a bit? As far as I can tell, it's not possible
to set up slony initially with pgadmin 1.4.latest. Has this changed
in 1.6?
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switch too. Small 8.3 TODO item?
The hack I've used so far is
PGSERVICE=/path/to/pg_service.conf psql
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Folks,
Dennis Björklund and I discovered a little problem with how CVS TIP
reports overflows on cast. Please find enclosed a patch which fixes
it.
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! DETAIL: A field with precision 4, scale 4 must have an absolute value
less than 1.
[ becomes ]
! DETAIL: A field with precision 4, scale 4 must have an absolute value
less than 1 - 5
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! DETAIL: A field with precision 4, scale 4 must have an absolute value
less than 1.
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! DETAIL
. Is there one available?
If there is none, which behavior do we think is most
useful/consistent?
My reading of the (provisional) spec is that a complex type (ROW,
ARRAY, MULTISET) is NULL iff all of its elements are NULL or the whole
of it is NULL.
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What would be involved with making this so? So far, I can see:
* Storing this information in pg_catalog somehow
* Setting the search_path when a login role connects
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is the ability to write to the filesystem, which means that
there's no boundary really possible. Maybe some kind of tiered system
of users with more than 2 tiers...but that sounds pretty byzantine to
me.
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:06:09PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
However, it almost seems like this would become a piece of the
other per-database-user stuff we'd like to do, like local
superuser
in such a way
that the relationships are not always transitive :P
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to take time,
inflation/deflation, pairwise exchange rates, etc. into account. It
would look more like a schema with a large data set and a large body
of code loaded into it than it would a data type.
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for example. I
can't imagine column setof text.
It's part of the SQL:2003 standard as MULTISET :)
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including everything if there are
none), then apply all the exclusion switches.
+1 :)
Order-dependent switches are a giant foot gun.
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On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 12:07:29PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:22:19PM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:28:21PM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote:
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The existing patch's behavior is that the rightmost switch
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:34:09PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:59:18PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Jim C. Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:28:21PM -0400, Gregory Stark wrote:
My
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Is this defined by some standard or just an oversight ?
This looks like a bug.
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README is updated.
http://umitanuki.net/pgsql/wfv04/design.html
Please add link to commit fest wiki.
Added :)
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Heikki Linnakangas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 09:00:47PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
Ok, I'm starting to read up on SQL2003 window functions,
Maybe it would be better to read
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It's not like we haven't seen a SQL draft go down in flames
before
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 02:06:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Okay, I got tired of seeing people complain about foreign-key
constraint violations in data-only dumps.
Isn't this something solved in the more general case by having
pre-data, data, and post-data dump options?
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resistant, should I refuse them on principle?
See above.
Why?
See above.
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this would be most welcome :)
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