On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 06:27:30PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
While hacking on PL/Parrot, I ran across an issue where when
trying to load PL/pgsql, it's done unconditionally and fails. How
do we fix pg_regress to be a little more subtle about this?
Why
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:26:29AM -0200, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote:
David Fetter escreveu:
OK, I know it's late, but having PL/pgsql on by default has caused
an unforeseen need: --require-language.
Why? IMHO pg_regress should be used with the same postgres version
it was built
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 01:34:46PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Takahiro Itagaki itagaki.takah...@oss.ntt.co.jp writes:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
support both pre-9.0 and post-9.0 PostgreSQLs. David Wheeler has
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 01:51:08PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
Folks,
While hacking on PL/Parrot, I ran across an issue where when trying
to load PL/pgsql, it's done unconditionally and fails. How do we
fix pg_regress to be a little more subtle about this?
For now, and for the archives
have
been reversed. Perhaps we should put something in the docs to say
and test. The correct resolution is to put in an archive_command
that works.
+1 for clarifying and extending the docs.
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Although Greg is correct that a NOTICE wouldn't be logged at default
log levels, lots of people don't use that default. Comments?
As I see it, the clarity concern trumps the log spam one.
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testing to suggest that 8.4 is no worse than 8.3 as far as the core
xml operations go.
Comments?
+1 for back-patching.
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 07:20:58PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Did we ever get tab completion support for these backslash commands?
Nope :/
Not sure if I'll be able to get to it this week, either.
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that the label must go
before DECLARE.
with the docs saying another thing, this couldn't be considered as a
bug fix and therefore backpatchable
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, but by no means
all, developers of some little project by introducing massive bugs.
That is never going to happen, and you need to stop asking.
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:10:59PM -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:56:23PM +0100, François Pérou wrote:
Dear friends,
As a reminder, I took part in the development of pgAdmin and I am
not looking for a flame war.
You're doing a poor job
then we
have to find time to learn to do things wrong? seems like a nosense
argument to me
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On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:18:31PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
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On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:58:20AM -0500, Jaime Casanova wrote:
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My opinion
to contort our source code in order to make
a marginal improvement in the ability to coexist with random other
code that is also polluting the link-time namespace.
+1 for de-supporting this option.
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 03:27:23PM +0100, strk wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:50:16AM -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Using an hstore in 9.0 it's not too bad,
Does it still have a limit of 65535 bytes per field ?
No. :)
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2010/3/12 David Fetter da...@fetter.org:
This is, by the way, an excellent argument for including hstore in
core in 9.1. :)
I like it - but it looking little bit strange - I thinking we need
only one function (maybe
of reflection ]
ISTM that in most cases where this is a serious issue, the trigger
functions are doing the *same* thing to different tables.
Yes. Well, at least the same base type. I don't suppose now is a
great time to get into the second class status of domains. :P
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:47:37PM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 09:00 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
Yes, for most people touching != overlap. So it just looks like a
bug.
I don't know which people you've surveyed, but at least in my math
classes, one point in common
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 01:46:51PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
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I'm seeing a lot of places where this might be documented. Any ideas
as to which ones are appropriate?
I would think Geometric Functions and Operators would be the most
appropriate spot
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:04:16PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
index 9881ff4..9313112 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
@@ -7134,7 +7134,7 @@ CREATE TYPE rainbow AS ENUM
to the alphas ... in raw SGML.
While not a WYSIWYG, shelling out to make after each disk write
should do what you want. Which editor(s) do you like to use? Emacs
and vim both have ways to do this. :)
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most of them
discarded.
That sounds like the optimizer's falling down on the job. Would this
be difficult to fix?
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Andrew, do you have some notes on this?
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which is shorter and more efficient and less error prone than the
way it's done in the current instructions (which puts the patterns
to be excluded in a series of egrep pipes).
Thoughts?
+1 for simplifying and consolidating.
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around access to the head of the array.
v2 patch attached
If you've committed this, or any other patch you've sent here,
*please* mention so on the same thread.
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On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 09:22:21PM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 13:16 -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:01:05PM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 08:24 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 18:52 -0400, Tom Lane wrote
a to alpha;
ALTER TABLE complexer RENAME b to bravo;
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Hackers, Driver maintainers,
The 9.0 don't rename index cols behavior has already broken JDBC. We
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and less tied to a particular model of interaction.
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I hope to see many of you in Ottawa.
You can run, but you can't hide ;)
Thanks for your deep and broad contributions so far, and I'm sure I
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Thanks.
Wouldn't this count as a bug fix?
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Folks,
I feel dumb.
I have been looking for a document which specifies what trusted and
untrusted PLs must do and forbid, so far without result.
Where do we document this, and if we don't where *should* we document
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yu really need something like
cannot communicate with outside processes?
These need to be testable conditions, and new tests need to get added
any time we find that we've missed something. Making this concept
fuzzier is exactly the wrong direction to go.
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:26:24PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* David Fetter (da...@fetter.org) wrote:
These need to be testable conditions, and new tests need to get
added any time we find that we've missed something. Making this
concept fuzzier is exactly the wrong direction to go
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 01:45:45PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
* David Fetter (da...@fetter.org) wrote:
That is *precisely* the business we need to be in, at least for the
languages we ship, and it would behoove us to test languages we don't
ship so we can warn people when they don't pass
(who is not, at this point, going to suggest that a trusted
boolean may inadequately reflect users' needs)
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 03:15:27PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
(1) no access to system calls (including file and network I
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:08:44AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:18:14PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
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I've written up a patch intended to implement this on the
non-pg_catalog tables and VIEWs, but while it builds, it doesn't
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:05:24AM -, Andrew - Supernews wrote:
On 2007-03-27, David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Per further discussion with Andrew of Supernews and Merlin
Moncure, I've added a check for compound types and moved the
creation of the array type from DefineRelation
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:33:56PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
The first is in type_sanity, which basically doesn't understand
that complex types now have array types associated with them and
thinks they're orphan array types, so it's actually
, but let's not go there just now ;) in
the form of MULTISET, and that, too, should eventually be in the above
mix.
I'm not advocating the idea that people should *store* those
compositions--if it were just up to me, I'd disallow it--but they're
very handy for input and output :)
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:40:16PM -0800, David Fetter wrote:
Folks,
I'd like to take the TODO item that reads, Add support for arrays of
complex types, but before I start patching, I'd like to see whether
what I'm about to do makes any sense:
After several rounds of patches, it appears
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 07:13:20PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
I wrote:
David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What parts of the code would need a once-over?
A lot :-( ... probably every place that touches typtype or typelem would
need at least a look. It'd
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 07:58:34PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What say we put one in pre-emptively for TYPTYPE_ARRAY?
When and if the patch appears, you can add it ;-). I'm just intending a
search-and-replace at the moment.
Like this?
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:08:42PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
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After several rounds of patches, it appears that it might be easier to
create a new typtype entry, which I'll tentatively call 'a' because it
seems a little fragile and a lot inelegant and hard
. :)
It's a lot simpler to have them always, and it fits in with the larger
picture of making arrays fully composable with other operations like
DOMAIN, ENUM and TYPE.
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On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:01:44PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
So, hum, what happened to the idea of creating the array types
only on demand?
Scotched, as far as I could tell,
More like
steam ahead.
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you can show it's not your fault when the mature
hits the fan, I agree. If you mean, taking a precaution that will
actually prevent a problem from occurring in the first place, it
definitely does.
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in an
array-of-composite be something smaller than full tuples? It's not
going to be anything but a toy unless you can get the per-entry
overhead down to something sane. Perhaps the MinimalTuple
representation would work.
Sounds neat, too :)
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act like normal equality (with nulls being different).
How about NotDistinct as in SQL's IS NOT DISTINCT FROM ?
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types, and they should live or die by their parent types.
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that PL/PerlU wasn't available, even though createlang
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LANGUAGE should have failed when it found no PL/Perl compiled in.
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I seem to recall there was a way to construct scenarios that
returned multiple result sets via rules but I don't know how to
arrange that. Anyone remember?
I don't know about rules, but you can have a SRF return SETOF
REFCURSOR.
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that doesn't have the pg_ prefix. Default to symlinking the old names
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It's a lot easier just to prefix the names than to do something
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nonintegral typmod.
Note that the typmodout side is already OK since it is defined to
return a string.
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secure SECURITY DEFINER function.
With the extended syntax I proposed it could take just one command to
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While we're at it, it would be very nice to be able to set default
per-role, per-database settings.
Er ... what deficiency do you see in ALTER ROLE SET and ALTER DATABASE SET?
You can't set
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Er ... what deficiency do you see in ALTER ROLE SET and ALTER DATABASE SET?
You can't set both at once.
Oh, you mean the cross
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I'm pretty sure it does in the current versions of most other DBMSs.
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I think that the least painful solution might be to change
pg_proc.probin to be declared as text. Otherwise we're going to need
version-specific klugery in pg_dump and who knows where else.
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On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:19:16PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:52:55 David Fetter wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:22:52PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2009 21:07:00 David Fetter wrote:
We require that people supply docs
it's worth, DBI-Link provides a lot of this.
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On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:28:15PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
For what it's worth, DBI-Link provides a lot of this.
Indeed, but that assumes that perl+DBI+DBD::Pg is available, which
is by no means always the case. If we're going to have a dblink
module ISTM
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:07:08PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:19:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:32:48AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
And I doubt we'd bother generating pg_migrator
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 05:32:13PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
David Fetter wrote:
This is a pretty serious drawback. If we're going to require that
people send migration scripts when they change the on-disk format,
this needs to be easy.
But, are we?
This is an area where we have
that this change be immediate, and it's not ivory
tower. It's just how everybody else does it.
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any change, is the way to
keep it shared.
Working off in splendid isolation, while it may appeal to you, is the
wrong move. Guaranteed tears.
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creative in the naming. How about warm
replica? Other ideas?
Warm Read
Streamed Copy
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such an approach?
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use a CVS (later git) pre-commit hook to
look for tabs and reject any commit in this directory or lower that
has tabs in it. :)
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 07:29:43PM +1000, Paul Matthews wrote:
Suspect that attaching large amounts of code is a breach of
etiquette.
Code attachments aren't, but HTML messages are, so in future, please
send only text :)
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around breaking stuff)
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the unique
constraint) would be unfriendly.
Unless the SQL spec demands that we do so?
SQL:2008, like its predecessors, does not mention indexing at all.
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are a teensy bit baroque. Is there some
significant speed increase that would justify them?
if (x == 0.0)
return 0.0;
else {
yx = y/x;
return x*sqrt(1.0+yx*yx);
}
}
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: date/time field value out of range: 90
HINT: Perhaps you need a different datestyle setting.
I'd be tempted to call it a flat-out bug in the first case. Adding a
string literal to a timestamptz should just result in an error, IMHO.
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:47:42PM -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:14:19PM +1000, Paul Matthews wrote:
These next two lines are a teensy bit baroque. Is there some
significant speed increase that would justify them
* this to do?
You obviously weren't expecting the literal to be taken as
interval, but its contents are not very sane for any other
likely interpretation.
The gentleman in IRC was the one who was using the construct. I spell
out my date arithmetic. :)
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 02:05:38PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
David Fetter da...@fetter.org writes:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 01:18:46PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what were you *expecting* this to do?
The gentleman in IRC was the one who was using the construct.
Well
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