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data type. The only value I can see to having a tsquery data type is
that you can store a tsquery value
didn't specify a tablespace.
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I think it would be ok only if a pg_dump/pg_restore reliably restored the
same
oid-enum value mapping. Otherwise a binary dump is useless. But as I
understand it that's the case currently, is it?
er, lost
I wouldn't be confident that all operating
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It shouldn't be easy. Ident uses TCP, which is rather harder to
spoof.
Say what? It's actually quite easy to spoof TCP. There are even command-line
tools to do it available
and then cached for subsequent accesses. So xid_age() would
measure relative to a fixed xid, it just wouldn't be *our* xid necessarily.
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could be in
it by default. But that might depend on how expensive it is at run-time. I
wouldn't want trivial SQL functions to no longer be inline-able because one
might one day use a regexp for example.
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I think security definer functions should automatically inherit their
search_path. The whole secure by default thing.
This assumes that the search path at creation time has something to do
with the path you'd like
, digits, underscore?
Or does it need to be weaker than that?
What's the problem with .?
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I made it reject all but latin letters, which is the same restriction
that's in place for timezone set filenames. That might be overly
strong, but we definitely have to forbid
of Linux and I thought it was false
for other modern OSes -- I'm surprised it's not for Solaris even.
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That seems too vague for the TODO. Did you have specific items in mind?
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is executed.
I'm a bit afraid the plan will stay cached longer than would be ideal. If the
plan doesn't use the new index then ideally we would want to invalidate it
from the cache at the end of this transaction I suppose.
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the sleep time. So it would always
process a full cycle for example but adjust the sleep time based on what
percentage of the cycle the backends used up in the last sleep time.
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the percentages on the transactions. I think Stock
Level and Order Status are entirely read-only but I would have to check. Stock
Level is a very intensive query though so I wouldn't suggest raising the
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any old tuples in broken chains
uses the serializable snapshot as a conservative proxy for the oldest snapshot
which might be in use. That will work for both serializable and read
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than the build farm.
Especially when it comes to vacuum and vacuum full and cluster and so on given
that autovacuum barely has a chance to start looking at things before the
regression tests are done.
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for and tried a lot of different approaches to solve this problem.
This was the lowest impact solution and the only one that was convincingly
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for this contraption before we had
plan invalidation, but what use is it now?
Argh, sorry, rereading your message I see there are a few details which I
missed which completely change the meaning of it. Ignore my previous mail :(
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AFAICS, the whole indcreatexid and validForTxn business is a waste of
code. By the time CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY is ready to set indisvalid,
surely any transactions that could see the broken HOT chains are gone
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It's a corner case, but I say it's a must-fix.
Of course
Those bug reports have been bothering me for most of a year ...
Are there any other outstanding reports like that?
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No intervention is required for normal expression indexes using those
functions or hash indexes which will be rebuilt during a database upgrade
anyways. I don't think hash_any itself changed so this wouldn't affect
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+ #undef V_FALSE
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* output values for result output parameter of clean_fakeval_intree
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won't worry.
I tend to agree with you. We should only use overloading when the function is
essentially the same just tweaked as appropriate for the datatype, not when
the meaning is different.
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copying it to new memory instead of memory which is almost
certainly likely in processor caches which would need to be invalidated would
actually be faster and avoiding the use of memmove could be faster too.
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to slip this into the upcoming 8.2.5?
I haven't been able to find anything which specifies precisely when it'll
happen though. Just knowing the week or even day isn't enough.
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linux).
Is this exhaustive? That is, are we sure this never happened before Sept 11th?
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Guillaume Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gregory,
On 9/21/07, Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hm, it does seem I missed like.c when I converted all the text operators to
avoid detoasting packed varlenas. I'll send a patch in a few minutes to do
that. I'm surprised it would have
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The canonical way to do it is with
DatumGetCString(DirectFunctionCall1(textout, t))
Ah, I see. Thanks.
In that case, would it be helpful if I submitted a patch for the
various code fragments
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Ok, this removes what should be most if not all of the call sites where we're
detoasting text or byteas. In particular it gets all the regexp/like
functions
and all the trim/pad functions. It also gets hashtext
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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(It might be interesting to make textin produce a packed result when
possible, just to see what breaks; but I would be afraid to try to do
that for production...)
This all brings up the question of what other files
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(result), inputText, len);
+ SET_VARSIZE_SHORT(result, len+VARHDRSZ_SHORT);
+ PG_RETURN_TEXT_P(result);
+ }
+ #endif
+
result = (text *) palloc(len + VARHDRSZ);
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of 1st digit */
uint16 n_sign_dscale; /* Sign + display scale */
+ int16 n_weight; /* Weight of 1st digit */
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NumericDigit) */
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I think we also should move the NumericData and declaration to numeric.c and
make the Numeric type an opaque pointer for the rest of the source
tree.
I don't agree with that; we
not much point in making an exception
for something which will only be really useful once further work is done in
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That sounds like a good combination
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Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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I'm wondering whether it doesn't make sense to lower VARATT_SHORT_MAX to 0x70
to allow for at least a small number of constant values which could indicate
some special type of datum. That could be used to indicate
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I'm wondering whether it doesn't make sense to lower VARATT_SHORT_MAX to 0x70
to allow for at least a small number of constant values which could indicate
some special type of datum. That could be used to indicate
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Fascinating.
Why do you cast arguments to memcmp to char* ?
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Why do you cast arguments to memcmp to char* ?
Well, *I* haven't done it in a long time,
I'm referring to tuptoaster.c:488
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? That would
solve the problem for the narrow case of pg_restore.
In the long run we could think about exposing some kind of command for
pg_restore to use which would disable autovacuum from touching a table. (Or
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dugong (icc on ia64) has been failing the contrib installcheck consistently
since 6 days ago with errors like:
ERROR: could not fsync segment 0 of relation 1663/40960/41403: No such file
or directory
I checked a cvs diff between the two timestamps
Simon Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 09:08 +, Gregory Stark wrote:
A more invasive form of this patch would be to assign and pin a buffer when
the preread is done. That would men subsequently we would have a pinned
buffer
ready to go and not need to go back
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Bruce, you seem to have removed one of my three patches from the queue. I
would actually prefer you remove the other two and put back that one. It's
the
one I most urgently need feedback on to continue.
I talked to Greg on IM
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but abysmally on most other
libc's.
From that point forward we would go about adding support for strcoll_l() and
other interfaces to handle case (d) on various platforms. For platforms with
no reasonable interface we could add a --enable-ICU users or packagers could
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the division is actually being done in enough detail to judge that for my
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/usr/lib/postgresql/modules;/usr/local/lib/postgresql/modules
That way users can compile and install their own modules into /usr/local
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I would suggest a guc for the safe place and I would suggest it be a list
of
places. And I would suggest that for OS packagers they really want two
locations on that list, something like:
/usr/lib/postgresql
create this
situation we could have an assertion that calls the constructor a second time
(with palloc generating garbage data) and compares the results with
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The alternative seems to be to forbid uninitialized pad bytes within
Datums. That's not very pleasant to contemplate either, since it'll
forever be vulnerable to sins of omission
mean that if you try to run a query which doesn't exist you
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Regardless of whether we go ahead with this (and I'm not fond of it
primarily
because I want \c to work),
Okay, but what on earth is \c and what would you expect it to do
when it works? I
or type make install in
some source tree -- but actually log into each customer's database and run an
SQL script. That does seem like more work and more risk than a lot of ISPs
will be willing to take on.
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wonder if people wouldn't feel more comfortable taking baby steps at first
which will have less impact in cases where it's not being heavily used.
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Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008, Gregory Stark wrote:
I described which interfaces worked on Linux and Solaris based on empirical
tests. I posted source code for synthetic benchmarks so we could test it on a
wide range of hardware. I posted graphs based on empirical
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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The hard part is reading the email and figuring out
what status the patch is in.
Certainly. What we've got to do is make sure that after someone has
made that decision, it doesn't cost them a couple of minutes
. Better to go our
own way with a command that makes sense for psql than to try to turn psql into
a traditional command-line shell.
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I've been hacking on the idea of an Append node which maintains the ordering
of its subtables merging their records in order.
I finally got round to looking at this ...
A lot of things to chew on. Thanks very much
better off focusing on the patches I've
already started rather than starting yet another project though so perhaps I
should put this aside until I can construct a good demonstration.
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