[HACKERS] v7.1 error ... SELECT converted to a COPY?

2001-04-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Okay, maybe this query isn't quite as simple as I think it is, but does this raise any flags for anyone? How did I get into a COPY? It appears re-creatable, as I've done it twice so far ... eceb=# select e.idnumber,e.password from egi e, auth_info a where e.idnumber != a.idnumber; Backend

Re: [HACKERS] v7.1 error ... SELECT converted to a COPY?

2001-04-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, maybe this query isn't quite as simple as I think it is, but does this raise any flags for anyone? How did I get into a COPY? It appears re-creatable, as I've done it twice so far ... eceb=# select

Re: [HACKERS] v7.1.1 branched and released on Tuesday ...

2001-04-30 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any outstanding fixes for v7.1.x that they want to see in *before* we do this release? Any points unresolved that anyone knows about that we need to look at? FWIW, I've finished committing

[HACKERS] Re: CVSup not working!

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
most odd ... its set to start on rebooted, but either it went down on its own, or didn't ... restarted now, let me know if its not working ... On Fri, 4 May 2001, Thomas Lockhart wrote: cvsup -L 2 postgres.cvsup Parsing supfile postgres.cvsup Connecting to postgresql.org Cannot

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know when it will be released? Only Marc knows. :-) Tomorrow aft ... sorry, got tied up with a client finishing his server move to v7.1 this afternoon, and we hit problems with a

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
thnks :) On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: OK, I have updated the file dates for a release tomorrow. On Fri, 4 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: I see by the messages that 7.1.1 is in the final packaging. Anyone know when it will be released? Only Marc knows. :-)

[HACKERS] bug in JOIN or COUNT or ... ?

2001-05-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Sorry, worst Subject I've ever come up with, but this is one of those I haven't got a clue how to describe emails ... Simple query: SELECT distinct s.gid, s.created, i.title FROM status s LEFT JOIN images i ON (s.gid = i.gid AND i.active), personal_data pd, relationship_wanted rw

Re: [HACKERS] bug in JOIN or COUNT or ... ?

2001-05-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So why is it counting 12 more images then are actually found/exist: Hm. Could we see the EXPLAIN output for both of those? without count: NOTICE: QUERY PLAN: Unique (cost=8.66..8.67 rows=1 width=37

Re: [HACKERS] bug in JOIN or COUNT or ... ?

2001-05-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Ah, I see it: your join against relationship_wanted isn't unique. globalmatch=# select count(*) from personal_data pd globalmatch-# where pd.gid = 17111 AND pd.gender = 0; count --- 1 (1 row) globalmatch=# select count(*) from

Re: [HACKERS] bug in JOIN or COUNT or ... ?

2001-05-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So that inflates the number of rows coming out of the join by 5. Okay, then I'm lost ... why wouldn't that show up without the COUNT()? I doubt doubt your analysis, I just want to understand why ... You

[HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak ...

2001-05-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.1.2 ... Just want a second opinion before I announce more publicly ... Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary:

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
broken how? I just connected into it ... On Tue, 22 May 2001, Karl DeBisschop wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.1.2 ... Just want a second opinion before I announce more publicly ... I'd check. But the postgresql ftp site appears to be broken

Re: [HACKERS] appendum: Re: *really* simple select doesn't useindices ...

2001-05-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The column 'zip' is of type text. As such, indices will not be used except in the case when the where clause is WHERE zip ~ '^text' for btree indices. Uh ... nonsense. Oh good, I was worried there for a sec ...

[HACKERS] intelligence in writing a query ...

2001-05-30 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Tom, with all the work you've been doing inside planner and optimizer, has there been anything done for 7.1.2 to make how a query is written cause the backend to be more intelligent? I'm playing with a query that I just don't like, since its taking ~3min to run ... It started as: EXPLAIN

[HACKERS] Max inserts / sec ... on any platform?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning all ... Build a file with 100k INSERT statements in it, and run psql -f on that file ... no BEGIN/END in the file, just straight INSERTs ... what is the max throughput ppl can see? I'm seeing reports of it maxing out on an AIX around 450, and on an HP around 380 ...

Re: [HACKERS] Dual-CPU slower then Single under HP?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 4m:30s is running one process for 100K inserts ... with two CPUs/processes, it increases the time to process by almost 40% ... ? Do you mean two processes inserting into the same table? Yup ... I

Re: [HACKERS] Max inserts / sec ... on any platform?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Okay, based on 5k records and a couple of wallclock minutes being equal to ~120sec, you are getting 41 inserts/sec? On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, KuroiNeko wrote: Build a file with 100k INSERT statements in it, and run psql -f on that file ... no BEGIN/END in the file, just straight INSERTs ...

Re: [HACKERS] Dual-CPU slower then Single under HP?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Great, thanks :) On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, this is one of those known problem, improved in v7.2 sort of issues? Yup. regards, tom lane Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Postgres Replication

2001-06-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
which I believe is what the rserv implementation in contrib currently does ... no? its funny ... what is in contrib right now was developed in a weekend by Vadim, put in contrib, yet nobody has either used it *or* seen fit to submit patches to improve it ... ? On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Zeugswetter

Re: AW: [HACKERS] vacuum

2001-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote: Is there a relative consensus for how often to run vacuum? I have a table of about 8 columns that I fill with 100,000 items simply via a \i alarms.sql. After 1,000 items or so it gets extremely slow to fill with data, and will take

[HACKERS] v7.1.1 Branched, Packaged and Released ...

2001-05-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
This is just a quick announcement that we have now branched off v7.1.x from the main development tree, and are starting to dive into development of v7.2 ... There have been several changes since v7.1 was released, including: Fix for numeric MODULO operator (Tom) pg_dump fixes (Philip) pg_dump

[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] v7.1.1 Branched, Packaged and Released ...

2001-05-07 Thread The Hermit Hacker
takes Vince a day or two to catch up ... yes, we are officially released, and Tom just dump'd some major stats changes into HEAD ... On Mon, 7 May 2001, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: Does this mean that we have officially released 7.1.1? I could not find any statements regarding 7.1.1 on the web

Re: [HACKERS] Shared library versions

2001-05-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: We did not bump the shared library versions before the 7.1 release. Maybe we should do this before 7.1.2 goes out. Ummm ... unless there are any changes that would require someone to recompile their apps between v7.1.1 and v7.1.2, I don't think so

Re: [HACKERS] Shared library versions

2001-05-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: We did not bump the shared library versions before the 7.1 release. Maybe we should do this before 7.1.2 goes out. I thought I did that long ago for 7.1, or I should have anyway. I don't see the commits either. Seems we can't do it in a minor

Re: [HACKERS] Shared library versions

2001-05-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: I'm talking about the minor number. The only thing that effects is that executables would pick up the new version if they have the old one in the path as well, no potential problems. Okay, but, what does that buy you? One overwrites the old

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.2 release

2001-05-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: Are we releasing tomorrow. I will stamp the CVS STABLE branch tonight as 7.1.2. Not that I'm aware of ... I heard mention something about a couple of fixes, but we *just* put out 7.1.1 ... If ppl are affected by the bugs, use cvsup and set yoru tag

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.2 release

2001-05-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Hiroshi Inoue [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with you because the bug is very critical. Yes, I'd like to get that plpgsql bug fix out as soon as possible. Isn't this only critical for those that are using it? Does it affect those that don't use

Re: [HACKERS] REL7_1_STABLE tag/branch

2001-05-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
it is a branch ... for lack of a better way to work it: symbolic names: REL7_1_STABLE: 1.106.0.2 REL7_1_BETA: 1.79 REL7_1_BETA3: 1.86 REL7_1_BETA2: 1.86 REL7_1: 1.102 REL7_0_PATCHES: 1.70.0.2 REL7_0: 1.70 REL6_5_PATCHES: 1.52.0.2

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1.2 release

2001-05-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't this only critical for those that are using it? Does it affect those that don't use plpgsql? No, but I think it's pretty critical for those that do ... So, why not create a quick patch for those

Re: [HACKERS] pg_index.indislossy

2001-05-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Can someone tell me what we use indislossy for? IIRC it means that if you get something by this index you must check again in the actual data I think that at least the GIST intarray (actually intset) methods use

Re: [HACKERS] Upgrade issue (again).

2001-05-16 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Lamar Owen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am loathe to even bring this up, but with two messages today about it, I am going to be short and sweet: We don't have a reasonable upgrade path. ASCII dump-install new-initdb-restore is not a

Re: [HACKERS] Upgrade issue (again).

2001-05-17 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Lamar Owen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 May 2001 19:05, The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2001, Lamar Owen wrote: I am loathe to even bring this up, but with two messages today about it, I am going to be short

Re: [HACKERS] Plans for solving the VACUUM problem

2001-05-20 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 20 May 2001, Vadim Mikheev wrote: 1. Space reclamation via UNDO doesn't excite me a whole lot, if we can make lightweight VACUUM work well. Sorry, but I'm going to consider background vacuum as temporary solution only. As I've already pointed, original PG authors finally

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
which ones should I pull in? the ones in ~/ftp/pub/doc/7.1? or is there newer along that tree that we need to generate? On Tue, 22 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The Hermit Hacker writes: ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.1.2 ... Just want a second opinion before I announce

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
all mirrors use rsync to update their code, and all of those that are listed at www.postgresql.org, both ftp and www, are no more then 2 days old (Vince, it is two days we set it at, right?) ... On Wed, 23 May 2001, bpalmer wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: every time I've tried

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
this evening after some of the mirrors have had a chance to download ... On Wed, 23 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The Hermit Hacker writes: which ones should I pull in? the ones in ~/ftp/pub/doc/7.1? or is there newer along that tree that we need to generate? You can take ~petere

Re: [CORE] Re: [HACKERS] Mirrors not tracking main ftp site?

2001-06-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
okay, just removed the .hidden directory from the ftp server, which should correct that ... I had setup that .hidden directory to be excluded though, not sure why it was bothering things :( On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, bpalmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 However, it seems

RE: [HACKERS] Baby girl

2001-06-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
trust me ... girls are soo much fun ... *roll eyes* *watches for lightening* On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Mikheev, Vadim wrote: I had a baby girl on Tuesday. I am working through my backlogged emails today. Congratulations -:) Vadim ---(end of

[HACKERS] Re: fts.postgresql.org ?

2001-06-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
already fixed ... On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Oleg Bartunov wrote: Marc, when I try to reach http://fts.postgresql.org/ I see http://www.hub.org/ what's happens ? Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher,

Re: [HACKERS] Doc translation

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Tatsuo ... setting up a seperate CVS module for this does sound like a great idea ... you already have access to the CVS repository, right? Can you send me a tar file containing what you have so far, and I'll get it into CVS and then you'll be able to update that at will? If we set it up as:

Re: [HACKERS] Doc translation

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tatsuo Ishii writes: Hi, some PostgreSQL users in Japan have been translating 7.1 docs into Japanese. I hope the work would finish within 1-2 months. My question is how the translated docs could be merged into the doc source tree once it is

[HACKERS] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning ... I'm trying to wrack my brain over something here, and no matter how I try and look at it, I'm drawing a blank ... I have two tables that are dependent on each other: notes (86736 tuples) and note_links (173473 tuples) The relationship is that one

[HACKERS] Re: [SQL] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FROM note_links nl, notes n LEFT JOIN calendar c ON (n.nid = c.nid) WHERE (n.type = 'A' OR n.type = 'N' OR n.type = 'H' OR n.type = 'C') AND (nl.id = 15748 AND contact_lvl = 'company

Re: [HACKERS] Universal admin frontend

2001-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
something like this, web based, would be most cool ... have to be able to monitor multiple port/backends too ... On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] Pedro Abelleira Seco wrote: Hi all! I'm thinking about starting a (serius) project to bring a good graphical interface to the administration

[HACKERS] Re: [SQL] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Perfect, thank you ... i knew I was overlooking something obvious ... the query just flies now ... On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try adding ... AND n.nid = 15748 ... to the WHERE. n.nid is the note id ... nl.id is the contact id

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2 stuff

2001-06-20 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How far off is 7.2? Ages? Hopefully not. I'd like to see us get back on a reasonably short release cycle, like every six months or less --- the last couple major release cycles have been painfully

Re: [HACKERS] Winner Notification - Linux Magazine Editor's ChoiceAwards (fwd))

2000-09-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Jan Wieck wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: *rofl* now that wasn't rigged or nothing ... I could see us second to MySQL, or third to Oracle/Informix, depending on how it was evaluated, but fourth to all three? Hey, look at the headline: Linux

Re: [HACKERS] ascii to character conversion in postgres

2000-09-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Tom Lane wrote: Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not documented (from oracle_compat.c) in PG documentation: btrim() ascii() ichar() repeat() and about ichar() is nothing in Oracle documentation, it's knows chr() only... Sounds to me

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL 7.0.3?

2000-09-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
tom is looking into a bug right now that he wants to try and fix before we release it ... hopefully this week we'll release it ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, G. Anthony Reina wrote: I remember a post about 2 weeks back concerning a new patch that was to be introduced as 7.0.3. I haven't seen any

[HACKERS] Damn, pg_proc index corrupted, can't find anythign on REINDEX ...

2000-09-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Can someone add something to the docs that gives an example of what should be used from the command line to reindex a database's system tables? All the man page says is use th e-O an d-P options :( I'm getting: psql -h pgsql horde ERROR: cannot read block 6 of pg_attribute_relid_attnam_index

[HACKERS] recovery after massive system corruption ...

2000-09-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Wow, has this been just one of those days ... Trying to clean up a few of the database, I'm wondering how to fix some of these things, if its even possible, without having to rebuild the whole database: %~/bin/postgres -O -P -D/pgsql/special/sales.org swissre DEBUG: Data Base System is

[HACKERS] Recovery Procedures in 'single user mode' ...

2000-09-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
figuring I'd try out getting into the backend using postgres, to see if I can 'bypass' some of the errors on those corrupted database, I'm wondering if there is any way of taking what a 'select * from table' outputs: 1: userid = "cibc001154" (typeid = 1043, len = -1, typmod = 36,

[HACKERS] Recovery from hard drive failure ... the hard way ...

2000-09-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Well all, I just spent a bit of time trying to figure out how to recover a database where the tables appear to be intact with postgres in 'single user mode', and came up with a quick and dirty that might not be totally complete, but might help someone else in a similar situation ...

[HACKERS] The Data Base System is in recovery mode

2000-09-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Pointers to what this is? Do we have it documented anywhere? Search engine, of course, is done, so can't search there ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary:

Re: [GENERAL] List funnies ?

2000-09-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Sep 2000, Jules Bean wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:01:50AM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: okay, this is most odd ... according to the list software, you are still only subscribed to the general list: Marc I can also confirm that I had no message on pgsql-general for about two

[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] List funnies ?

2000-09-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
okay, this is most odd ... according to the list software, you are still only subscribed to the general list: Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Address is valid. Address is registered as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered at Fri Sep 1 15:33:13 2000 GMT. Registration data last

Re: [HACKERS] 7.1 beta schedule

2000-10-07 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: The core group has decided to delay 7.1 beta until November 1. We have done this to enable the write-ahead log code (WAL) to be shipped with 7.1. Of course, it also gives me time to catch up on my e-mail, which I am doing now. :-) tell me about

[HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Announce: Release of PyGreSQL version3.0

2000-10-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: Thus spake Bruce Momjian I have installed this in the current source tree, ready for 7.1. I have installed Announce: Release of PyGreSQL version 3.0 When is 7.1 being locked down? I may be releasing 3.1 with a few small fixes and

Re: [HACKERS] ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN

2000-10-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hrmm .. mvcc uses a timestamp, no? is there no way of using that timestamp to determine which columns have/haven't been cleaned up following

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [PATCHES] PostgreSQL virtual hosting support

2000-10-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am tempted to apply this. This is the second person who asked for binding to a single port. The patch looks quite complete, with doc changes. It appears to be a thorough job. Any objections? From a quick read of his "description of problem",

Re: AW: [HACKERS] ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN

2000-10-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Tom Lane wrote: Zeugswetter Andreas SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My conclusion would be that we need both: 1. a fast system table only solution with physical/logical column id 2. a tool that does the cleanup (e.g. vacuum) But the peak space usage during cleanup

Re: AW: AW: [HACKERS] ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN

2000-10-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] we bite the bullet to the extent of supporting a distinction between physical and logical column numbers, then ISTM there's no strong need to do any of this other stuff at all. I'd expect that

Re: AW: AW: AW: [HACKERS] ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN

2000-10-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote: Hiroshi's patch would make for a good starting point by bringing in the ability to do the DROP COLUMN feature, as I understand, without the rollback capability, No Hiroshi's patch is rollback enabled, simply because all it does is

Re: AW: AW: AW: [HACKERS] ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN

2000-10-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: okay, but, again based on my impression of what Tom has stated, and previous conversations on this topic, the key problem is what happens if I drop a column and a later date decide add a new column

Re: [HACKERS] Optimisation deficiency: currval('seq')--seq scan,constant--index scan

2000-10-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Tom Lane wrote: One thing it might be interesting (please tell me if you think otherwise) would be to improve pg with better statistical information, by using, for example, histograms. Yes, that's been on

[HACKERS] getting local domain to get attached through sendmail ...

2000-10-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning all ... I'm trying to get the committers mailing list to work, and the "break" is in sendmail, as far as I can tell. Basically, its taking 'locally posted messages' and not adding a domain to the back of it, so that majordomo sees them as: --== Error when connecting: Invalid

Re: [HACKERS] Backup, restore pg_dump

2000-10-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: What was the matter with the name pg_restore? I didn't wanna be the one to ask, but I was kinda confused on that point too ... Since we may have a workable backup/restore based on WAL available in 7.1, I am now wondering at the wisdom of creating

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Backup, restore pg_dump

2000-10-16 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Philip Warner writes: I like the pg_{import,export} names myself ... *nod* Sounds fine also; but we have compatibility issues in that we still need pg_dump. Maybe just a symbolic link to pg_export. I'm not so fond of changing a

Re: [HACKERS] The lightbulb just went on...

2000-10-16 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Something to force a v7.0.3 ... ? On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Tom Lane wrote: ... with a blinding flash ... The VACUUM funnies I was complaining about before may or may not be real bugs, but they are not what's biting Alfred. None of them can lead to the observed crashes AFAICT. What's

Re: [HACKERS] The lightbulb just went on...

2000-10-16 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something to force a v7.0.3 ... ? Yes. We had plenty to force a 7.0.3 already, actually, but I was holding off recommending a release in hopes of finding Alfred's problem. I thought so, about having plenty

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/doc (FAQ_MSWIN INSTALL_MSWIN)

2000-10-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: Bruce Momjian writes: No. I will turn it into an FAQ, and the item will be "How do I install PostgreSQL on MS Windows". How's that? I don't see how that would be better. Why this artificiality? Installation instructions belong into

Re: [HACKERS] Mailing list archives available?

2000-10-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
http://www.postgresql.org/mhonarc has them all listed .. not sure how to get there from the Web site ... Vince? On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Krzysztof Kowalczyk wrote: Are mailing list archives of various postgresql mailing list available anywhere? I know they were some time ago but I couldn't

Re: [HACKERS] Summary: what to do about INET/CIDR

2000-10-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
makes sense to me On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Tom Lane wrote: After reviewing a number of past threads about the INET/CIDR mess, I have concluded that we should adopt the following behavior: 1. A data value like '10.1.2.3/16' is a legal INET value (it implies the host 10.1.2.3 in the network

Re: [HACKERS] Gram.y patches for better parenthesis handling.

2000-10-28 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: Err, with Tom's objections, why was this applied? was going to ask this too ... someone going patch-happy again? :) * Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001028 11:34]: Applied. Thanks. Okay, here's my attempt at fixing the problems with

[HACKERS] checking new server ...

2000-10-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
one list at a time, I move and test .. -hackers is the second ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

Re: [HACKERS] WAL status update

2000-10-30 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I believe that its just resting on Vadim again to give us the go ahead ... which I believe its always been on his shoulders, no? :) Vadim? On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Vadim Mikheev writes: WAL todo list looks like: So what's the latest on going beta? -- Peter

[HACKERS] READ THIS: changes in mailing list ...

2000-10-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning all ... Today, we are moving the mailing lists over to the new mail server. There *might* be a brief period where any mail sent to the lists will be returned with a 'user unknown' error, as there will be a brief period where the aliases will be disabled on the old server and

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [CORE] 7.0.3 Release date?

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: Yes, sorry about the delay. Also, I will send a report to core about the summit. is there a reason why -hackers wouldn't be interested as well? *raised eyebrow* sounds great, then hopefully we get v7.0.3 out early next week :) thanks ...

Re: [HACKERS] me too

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
okay, to date I've just been manually fixing stuff like this, but its time to debug what the problem is here ... so, what have you tried to do to set it as digest, and what error did you get? On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too got somehow on the list without subscribing.

Re: [HACKERS] me too

2000-11-03 Thread The Hermit Hacker
sorry, the migration this past weekend was to remove all traces of hub.org from the list addresses ... we built a 'virtual server' that now houses the postgresql.org mailing lists, so you need to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it should work ... please try that and let me know if it works or

[HACKERS] v7.0.3 *pre-release* ...

2000-11-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
In order that we can get a few days of testing on these, make sure the packaging is right and whatnot, we are holding off on a formal release until early-mid next week ... I've just put pre-release tar balls into: ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.0.3 Please take a minute to

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/contrib/pg_dumpaccounts (MakefileREADME pg_dumpaccounts.sh)

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Tom Lane wrote: Ned Lilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, here in relatively minor form is the First Example of a Great Bridge Priority (which Tom, Bruce, and Jan have all predicted would come... ;-) Hmm. I wasn't aware that Jan had done it at Great Bridge's

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/contrib/pg_dumpaccounts (MakefileREADME pg_dumpaccounts.sh)

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: Ned Lilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, here in relatively minor form is the First Example of a Great Bridge Priority (which Tom, Bruce, and Jan have all predicted would come... ;-) Hmm. I wasn't aware that Jan had done it at Great

Re: [HACKERS] More cvs branch problems

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Tom Lane wrote: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do have a question -- just how much configuration (and other) changes occurred to REL7_0_PATCHES (since the logs seem to not be telling the whole story)? I say this because I found at least one such change --

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/contrib/pg_dumpaccounts (MakefileREADME pg_dumpaccounts.sh)

2000-11-02 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ned Lilly wrote: We recognize this is a temporary hack - and fully expect it to go away in 7.1 We actually think that the final solution might be more appropriate in pg_dump itself than pg_dumpall, but that's obviously a much more breakable proposition (hence the separate

[HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I'm tryin to figure out how to speed up udmsearch when run under postgresql, and am being hit by atrocious performance when using a LIKE query ... the query looks like: SELECT ndict.url_id,ndict.intag FROM ndict,url WHERE ndict.word_id=1971739852 AND url.rec_id=ndict.url_id AND

Re: [HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
yowch ... removing that one index makes my 'test' search (mvcc) come back as: [97366] SQL 0.05s: SELECT ndict.url_id,ndict.intag FROM ndict,url WHERE ndict.word_id=572517542 AND url.rec_id=ndict.url_id AND (url.url LIKE 'http://www.postgresql.org/%') vs what we were doing before ... now,

Re: [HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Philip Warner wrote: At 21:59 5/11/00 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Looks like a great kluge to me ;-) Hmph. I prefer to think of it as a 'user-defined optimizer hint'. ;-} Except, if we are telling it to get rid of using the index, may as well get rid of it altogether, as

Re: [HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Philip Warner wrote: At 21:59 5/11/00 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Looks like a great kluge to me ;-) Hmph. I prefer to think of it as a 'user-defined optimizer hint'. ;-} Except, if we

Re: [HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Philip Warner wrote: At 23:12 5/11/00 -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: Except, if we are telling it to get rid of using the index, may as well get rid of it altogether, as updates/inserts would be slowed down by having to update that too ... So long as you don't

Re: [HACKERS] How to get around LIKE inefficiencies?

2000-11-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am adding a new TODO item: * Add SET PERFORMANCE_TIPS option to suggest INDEX, VACUUM, VACUUM ANALYZE, and CLUSTER Seems we should be able to emit NOTICE messages suggesting performance

Re: [HACKERS] CVS problem

2000-11-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
what version of CVS are you running? when was the last time you did anything with it? cvs on hub hasn't been upgraded since Sept 13th, so it isn't an upgrade issue ... and just tested from work, and I can checkout no probs ... On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Michael Meskes wrote: Here's what I get

RE: [HACKERS] list owner please help me get off the list.

2000-11-01 Thread The Hermit Hacker
ya know, I always love seeing email's like this ... what time do you consider to be the end of the day? and going directly to the top means talking to ... wow, me. and its the end of my day here, and I don't have you off yet, so now you are in a pickle, no? :) On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Jones,

Re: [HACKERS] 7.0.2 dies when connection dropped mid-transaction

2000-11-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001109 18:55] wrote: I guess the immediate question is do we want to hold up 7.0.3 release for a fix? This bug is clearly ancient, so I'm not sure it's appropriate to go through a fire drill to fix it for

Re: [HACKERS] 7.0.2 dies when connection dropped mid-transaction

2000-11-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom, if you can plug this one in the next, say, 48hrs (Saturday night), Done. Want to generate some new 7.0.3 release-candidate tarballs? Done, and just forced a sync to ftp.postgresql.org of the new tarballs

Re: AW: [HACKERS] v7.0.3 *pre-release* ...

2000-11-07 Thread The Hermit Hacker
If its that easy to fix the regress test so that it passes, can we get it committed and build a new tarball so that ppl doing regression on v7.0.3 see a clean regress? On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Tom Lane wrote: Pete Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only remaining failure is geometry. The

[HACKERS] Re: FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2000-11-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
fixed, let mek now if there are any others I've missed ... On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: Are the @postgresql.org addresses supposed to work? -Original Message- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 4:13 PM To:

Re: [HACKERS] why transfer limits on ftp.postgresql.org ?

2000-11-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Hannu Krosing wrote: when trying to do get -R RedHat-6.x RedHat-7.0 Mandrake-7.x I got get RedHat-7.0: server said: Permission denied on server. (Transfer limits exceeded) aftre all of RedHat-6.x was retrieved is there any reason for this ? Yes, we don't

Re: [HACKERS] IRC?

2000-11-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I'm at Comdex right now, but when I'm around, I'm on channel ... On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: I remeber a few developers used to gather on efnet irc, there was a lot of instability recently that seems to have cleared up even more recently. Are you guys planning on coming

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql/contrib/pg_dumpaccounts (MakefileREADME pg_dumpaccounts.sh)

2000-11-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have talked to GB and they understand their error. Until the next time? This isn't the first time you've "talked to them" ...

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