Re: [HACKERS] v7.4 Bundled ... please test ...

2003-08-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please test and let me know if there are any problems ... The .gz tarball matches what I have here. Didn't check the .bz2 one. All the .bz2 one is is 'gunzip *.gz;bzip2 *.tar', so should be good

Re: [HACKERS] Building beta packaging fails ...

2003-08-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
'k, removed and trying build again ... On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNUMakefile.in: opt_files := \ src/tools src/corba src/data src/tutorial \ Ah. I take it then, that src/data shoudl be removed from there too? Yep. Sorry

[HACKERS] Building beta packaging fails ...

2003-08-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Using the attached script, the build fails while trying ot tar up the distributions ... when its trying to build the tools tar file, error being that it can't find the src/data directory ... compared against the snapshot build script, it doesn't look like I've missed anything, and i haven't

Re: [HACKERS] Farewell

2003-08-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I never know what to say in response to stuff like this ... its like having to sign a card when a co-worker leaves ... then again, unlike most co-workesr, I can definitely say its been a great pleasure to have known, and worked, with you ... you brought, and gave, alot to the project, and for

Re: [HACKERS] When did we get to be so fast?

2003-08-14 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Man, I can't do anything right; should be: one INSERT per transaction, fsync true 934 one INSERT per transaction, fsync false 1818 INSERTs all in one transaction, fsync true 4166 Brain thinking one thing,

[HACKERS] Just ignore ... just a test

2003-08-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|postgresql}.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is

Re: [HACKERS] When did we get to be so fast?

2003-08-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just testing the threaded ecpg, and ran some performance tests. Without using threads, I am seeing 100,000 inserts of a single word into a simple table take 12 seconds: CREATE

[HACKERS] v7.4 Bundled ... please test ...

2003-08-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
'K ... I just re-tag'd REL7_4_BETA1 for the changes that were made (including Bruce's last minute copyright changes) ... Also, I just modified the script so that it builds both a .gz and a .bz2 version of hte archives ... Please test and let me know if there are any problems ... Marc G.

Re: [HACKERS] Building beta packaging fails ...

2003-08-04 Thread The Hermit Hacker
2003, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using the attached script, the build fails while trying ot tar up the distributions ... when its trying to build the tools tar file, error being that it can't find the src/data directory ... Why is it looking for src/data? I

[HACKERS] Upcoming Release of PostgreSQL, Inc's erserver v1.2 ...

2003-08-01 Thread The Hermit Hacker
We (PostgreSQL, Inc) are just in the process of tying up some loose ends on eRServer v1.2, to be released OSS on GBorg over the next week or so ... since this is meant to replace rserv, I'd like to remove rserv from the v7.4 source tree ... As far as I know, the only patch made to rserv in the

Re: [HACKERS] developer.postgresql.org is broken

2003-07-28 Thread The Hermit Hacker
already fixed On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: It's showing the apache page. Chris ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.4 bundled ...

2003-07-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'K, fixed the TAG to point to the right revision and am rebuilding the packages right now ... Repackaged tarball looks good from here. Don't forget to adjust the symlink at the top level of the FTP site

[HACKERS] v7.3.4 bundled ...

2003-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Please check it over before I announce it more generally ... but she looks good from here .. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]|postgresql}.org

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.4 bundled ...

2003-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
'K, fixed the TAG to point to the right revision and am rebuilding the packages right now ... On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please check it over before I announce it more generally ... but she looks good from here .. Almost there: src

Re: [HACKERS] cvs problem

2003-07-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
try it now ... I think its a pathing problem with a cron entry ... just fixed that, so should be okay now ... On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Patrick Welche wrote: cvs server: Updating src/bin/scripts/po cvs server: failed to create lock directory for

Re: [HACKERS] Criteria for contrib/ versus gborg?

2003-07-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Did I miss part of a thread here? :) On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Josh Berkus wrote: Andrew, Arguments? None of those three address the obvious marketing benefit of having replication shipping with the main tarball, I know. Those are pretty strong arguments ... and we can't let PostgreSQL new

Re: [HACKERS] anoncvs problems.

2003-07-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
check it now, should be fine ... On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Kurt Roeckx wrote: When doing cvs update I get: cvs server: Updating contrib/tsearch2 cvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/projects/cvsroot/pgsql-server/contrib/tsearch2'

Re: [HACKERS] Patches List

2003-07-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Got stuck with: A MIME header is too long (353 128) going through postings now ... On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Larry Rosenman wrote: Yes I am subscribed. I also sent it to you directly seeing as if it was slow. LER --On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 17:16:55 -0400 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Archives

2003-07-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 01:57:41PM -0500, Thomas Swan wrote: Does anyone have recent archives of the pgsql-hackers list in mbx or flat file format? I know that I can search through the website or through other interfaces, but I would like to

Re: [HACKERS] commiters log

2003-07-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
posted and shouldn't be delay'd in the future ... On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: today we've commited bug fix in ltree code to current CVS, but I don't see any notices in COMMITERS mailing list. Do we need to so something special ? Check

Re: [HACKERS] How to submit Tsearch V2 ?

2003-07-03 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Oleg Bartunov wrote: Marc, we hope to get an access to be able submit patches. I sent back a note to Teodor earlier this evening letting him know that I think I got the password issue fixed with CVS, but asked him to test and get back to me ...

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-28 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Jan Wieck wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: See my recent commit of src/tools/pgtest. It might be a good start. I was wondering if some existing framework, like from the Apache Xalan package, would be a better point to start from? I hate to say it, Bruce, but you try to

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Thomas Swan wrote: Of course, these are just ideas and I'm not sure how practical it is to do any of them. I just am really concerned about the uninstall/clean up phase and how that can be done in an orderly fashion. Unless the process can start from a clean state

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Rod Taylor wrote: I think we should replace Bruce's pgtest script with this one -- with an argument to accept the email address to report to for FAILING cases. Success isn't very interesting if it runs regularly. that was why I suggested getting it into the tree ... to at

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-26 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Kevin Brown wrote: It doesn't sound like a bad idea ... but, it pretty much comes down to the original thread: are you willing to step up and maintain such a project? Yes, I am (how hard can it be?, he asks himself, knowing all the while that it's a really bad idea to

Re: [HACKERS] RServ patch to support multiple slaves (sorta)

2003-06-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patch applied. Thanks. Michael A Nachbaur wrote: Attached is a patch that provides *VERY* limited support for multiple slave servers. I haven't tested it very well, so use at your

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze and the great elog changeover

2003-06-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: I had originally planned to spend the next week editing all the elog() calls in the backend to convert them to ereport() format where helpful, add SQLSTATE values, and update wording to match the style guidelines that were agreed to awhile back. However,

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: On 25 Jun 2003 at 14:50, Andreas Pflug wrote: Jan Wieck wrote: Change that into * Remove bugs from source code and get a patent on it. Should be a nobrainer (as in those guy's have no brains) considering that NetFlix even got a patent on

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Kevin Brown wrote: So...would it make sense to create a gborg project to which people who have written their own test suites can contribute whatever code and data they feel comfortable releasing? As a gborg project, it would be separate from the main PG distribution and

Re: [HACKERS] RServ patch to support multiple slaves (sorta)

2003-06-25 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Are you saying that it doesn't matter that it is made more broken? Sorry if I disagree... we should be trying to fix it, not the other way around. If it's so broken, why hasn't it received any improvement? Is there some problem with the underlying

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
'K, and do you have any ETA on when you'll have this translated into some useful tests that we can incorporate? On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Here is a list of a small sample of the citations available from the ACM on software testing:

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: -Original Message- From: Jan Wieck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:30 PM To: Dann Corbit Cc: scott.marlowe; Bruce Momjian; Tom Lane; Jason Earl; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Would it be nice if we had more tests? Yes. In fact, one of the items on my personal todo list is to devise a more versatile performance test than pgbench for testing postgresql parameters, builds, and installations. But it's not getting

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Robert Treat wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 21:36, The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Robert Treat wrote: The target-date-based approach we've taken in the last couple of releases seems much more productive. productive on a small scale

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: I did something about it. I raised the issue. Is it really so that whoever it is that raises a question is also the one who must fix the issue raised? A strange model indeed. Its worked for us ... Wait, I know what should make you happy ... it won't

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: I did something about it. I raised the issue. Is it really so that whoever it is that raises a question is also the one who must fix the issue raised? A strange model

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Don't care and won't do are not the same thing. Well, actually, they are ... if someone doesn't care, they aren't going to do, are they? You have had the time to do everything you ever cared about? No no, that isn't what he is arguing (or I'm

[HACKERS] PHP/PgSQL *and* libpq ...

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Just a side bar to the whole thread about PHP/MySQL ... I realize that libpq is intwined with the backend right now, but if anyone could think of a way of at least adding a make target that would create a libpq.tar.gz distribution, I believe it would go a long way towards making it easier for ppl

[HACKERS] libpgtcl and pgtclsh

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I'm looking to move both of these over to GBorg, like we did with the C++ interfaces and ODBC ... the problem is, unlike those, I can't find anyone that is actually working with it ... Is anyone using these? Anyone willing to step up and act as maintainer for it? Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Jan Wieck wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: I did something about it. I raised the issue. Is it really so that whoever it is that raises a question

Re: [HACKERS] informatoin reagarding the last date of submission

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Srikanth M wrote: Hi! Can anyone give me the informatoin reagarding the last date of submission of the code to be added in next version of pgsql. June 30th ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading

Re: [HACKERS] Two Phase Commit WAS: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
I second the agreement ... a 'reference implementation', of sorts, at least gives someone to build on then starting right from scratch ... On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Agreed. --- Josh Berkus wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] ftp mirror

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Sorry about that, I had long ago fixed the build, but failed to add it to cron ... new build created and cron entry added ... :( On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it me or is there a problem with ftp mirrors? The latest shapshots I have here are from June

Auto Building / Testing (was: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feat..)

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian writes: Well, it is a nice test template for people who aren't shell script experts, and I have been in the habit of pushing stuff I use into /tools so it is available for others. I know and I'm not happy about it. The

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Robert Treat wrote: The target-date-based approach we've taken in the last couple of releases seems much more productive. productive on a small scale; for sure. productive for large scale features... well, that's why it's being discussed. 'K, but if we extend the

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: The resistance to testing is typical of programmers. The PostgreSQL group is a group of programmers. I don't think I can change anyone's mind, since the most significant people on the list don't think it is worth the bother. Therefore, I am going to

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Mike Mascari wrote: I was disappointed that Satoshi Nagayasu's two-phase commit patches seemed to be implicitly rejected by lack of an enthusiastic response by any of the core members. Distributed query (not replication) would have been a very

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: That's a tough call. I do worry about readability. We have made Win32 changes, and they aren't ifdefs, and we still have a running system, and I think we can do that for PITR too. I think the big issue, which may be your point, is to get incremental

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Designing tests is busywork. Desiging tests is boring. Nobody wants to design tests, let alone interpret the results and define correct baselines. But testing is very, very important. But we do do testing ... we even design testing (in the form of

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: It seems pretty clear that there are warts on the Crashme test. Perhaps 70% or so is truly useful. Maybe the useful subset could be approximated or modified to be useful as a general tool set. And we all wait with baited breath for you to develop and

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Jan Wieck wrote: The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Designing tests is busywork. Desiging tests is boring. Nobody wants to design tests, let alone interpret the results and define correct baselines. But testing is very, very

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian writes: I have added a cleaned up version of this to CVS as src/tools/pgtest. This seems to be a platform-specific reimplementation of 'make clean; make check'. Why bother? Marc requested it. Is

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sure want two-phase commit. I don't remember it as being rejected, and we certainly need it, independent of replication. Is 2PC a real-world solution to any real-world problem? I

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: I think it's a cool-sounding phrase that does not actually work in practice. I think 2PC can be used to build more complex features, Only if it works to begin

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Sailesh Krishnamurthy wrote: I'm not sure if I understand Tom's beef - I think he is concerned about what happens if a subordinate does not respond to a prepare message. I would assume that the co-ordinator would not let the commit go through until it has received

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: No. I want to know what the subordinate does when it's promised to commit and the co-ordinator never responds. AFAICS the subordinate is screwed --- it can't commit, and it can't abort, and it can't expect to make progress indefinitely

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Josh Berkus wrote: Ultimately, this is one of those technical vs. marketing questions ... whether to release now with a bunch of back-end features that the current users want, or to release later and include the features that we said were going to be in 7.4. And

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Time was that we had a major release every 3 or 4 months. As the project matures I think it's appropriate for the cycle to get slower: a lot of low-hanging fruit is gone, so we have larger jobs to tackle, plus users are using PG for larger databases and

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Jason Earl wrote: Heck, there are probably more than 70 machines running CVS versions of PostgreSQL right this minute (Marc, any download numbers to back this up?). Unfortunately, most ppl testing would be using CVS or CVSup, which don't (or, at least, I haven't been able

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: Hmm... I must have missed the huge corporation paying for in house testing of PostgreSQL. In the Free Software world the beta team is all of those people that need the new features so badly that they are willing to risk their own data and

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-21 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: What does bother me is that we weren't getting any closer on those _hard_ items. At least with this release, we will be _closer_ on Win32 and PITR. Maybe our problem is such a ... hatred of #ifdef? Maybe its time to go back a bit to our roots ...

Re: tsearch V2 (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze)

2003-06-20 Thread The Hermit Hacker
And, actually, for some reason I hadn't thought of the tsearch as being another 'INDEX' type ... I crawl back over and be quiet now :) Oleg, as far as commits are concerned, I have no problems with extending the privileges to one of your guys for this, just email me seperately who, and I'll get

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Robert Treat wrote: Well, I suppose that history has shown that waiting on specific features causes trouble with postgresql development, but I don't see why a release can't be based around waiting for feature x as long as feature x is being actively worked on by trusted

Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze

2003-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Maybe a better strategy would be to get a release out soon but not wait 6 months for another release which would contain the Win32 port and the PITR stuff (assuming those aren't done in time for this release). Just a thought. And definitely in

tsearch V2 (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze)

2003-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Oleg Bartunov wrote: I'm not sure if contrib/tsearch is a killer feature, but we hope to submit completely new version of tsearch V2 before July 1. Actually, we have stable code already used in some projects but currently lacking documentation. Several people are working

Re: tsearch V2 (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze)

2003-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Oleg Bartunov wrote: Is there a strong reason why tsearch isn't in gborg? How gborg could help us submitting changes to pgsql CVS ? It wouldn't ... is there a reason why tsearch needs to be in the pgsql CVS any more then, say, ODBC drivers, or the tcl interface, or the

Re: tsearch V2 (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Two weeks to feature freeze)

2003-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: Is there a strong reason why tsearch isn't in gborg? I think text search is a pretty important facility that should eventually be part of the core distribution. It's more likely to get there from contrib

Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp server ... On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi every one, Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org? It also

Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates

2003-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi vince, Hi Marc Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to rely on. BUT

Re: [HACKERS] Okay, one mailing list problem still left...

2003-06-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
shoujld be fixed now On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: ... pgsql-committers is not propagating. Bruce evidently applied a ton of patches last night, and I see no committers messages for any of 'em. regards, tom lane ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date

2003-06-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
'k, someone please test ... should all be setup now and 'auto-updating' hourly ... On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ There is text before PGP section. ] [ PGP not available, raw data follows ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We are

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date

2003-06-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are 5 days away from the feature freeze date, but with the almost week of downtime we have had, I don't think we can stick to that date. Do we choose July 1 as feature freeze and July 15 as beta, or push beta

Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze date

2003-06-10 Thread The Hermit Hacker
you have to give it a password ... any password, but a password non the less ... someone else asked me this also, and if I enter no passwd, I can get the same error message ... On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, someone please

[HACKERS] neptune back up and being configured ...

2003-06-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Just a quick note that we just brought neptune back up and are re-configuring her (getting the OS updated, patch applied for memory leak, etc) Teodor, I have your list of modules and am in the process of getting postgresql 7.3.3 installed ... will get the mailware DB back up and configured iwth

[HACKERS] Archives re-generating ...

2003-06-09 Thread The Hermit Hacker
http://archives.postgresql.org is slowly being re-generated from the base majordomo archive files, and the search index is ... indexing. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] cvs ETA?

2003-06-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
?? cvs itself has been working for ages now ... anoncvs isn't ... or is that what you are using? On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Dave Cramer wrote: Is there any ETA for cvs? Dave -- Dave Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] fastcrypt ---(end of broadcast)---

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Anonymous CVS access

2003-06-07 Thread The Hermit Hacker
cvsweb.cgi is fixed ... working on the rest tonight ... On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Joe Conway wrote: (moving to HACKERS) Bruno Wolff III wrote: The CVS server seems to be working again, but logging in with an empty password doesn't work. The web interface to anonymous CVS doesn't work either.

Re: [HACKERS] RBLs ... I'm tired of spam ...

2003-05-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003, Marc G. Fournier wrote: *Way* off topic ... but I'm tired of processing through 300 messages nightly of which 10 are stuff that need to be approved for the lists, and 290 are trash ... What are ppl using / trusting out

Re: [HACKERS] RBLs ... I'm tired of spam ...

2003-05-27 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 27 May 2003, scott.marlowe wrote: Another vote for SpamAssassin. We use it at work here and it's quite nice. It puts all the borderline spam in a holding area and sends you a daily email with all the topics / names listed and you can request those out of the spam bucket. It's

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2 stuff

2001-06-20 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How far off is 7.2? Ages? Hopefully not. I'd like to see us get back on a reasonably short release cycle, like every six months or less --- the last couple major release cycles have been painfully

Re: [HACKERS] Universal admin frontend

2001-06-19 Thread The Hermit Hacker
something like this, web based, would be most cool ... have to be able to monitor multiple port/backends too ... On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] Pedro Abelleira Seco wrote: Hi all! I'm thinking about starting a (serius) project to bring a good graphical interface to the administration

Re: [HACKERS] Doc translation

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Tatsuo ... setting up a seperate CVS module for this does sound like a great idea ... you already have access to the CVS repository, right? Can you send me a tar file containing what you have so far, and I'll get it into CVS and then you'll be able to update that at will? If we set it up as:

Re: [HACKERS] Doc translation

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tatsuo Ishii writes: Hi, some PostgreSQL users in Japan have been translating 7.1 docs into Japanese. I hope the work would finish within 1-2 months. My question is how the translated docs could be merged into the doc source tree once it is

[HACKERS] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning ... I'm trying to wrack my brain over something here, and no matter how I try and look at it, I'm drawing a blank ... I have two tables that are dependent on each other: notes (86736 tuples) and note_links (173473 tuples) The relationship is that one

[HACKERS] Re: [SQL] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FROM note_links nl, notes n LEFT JOIN calendar c ON (n.nid = c.nid) WHERE (n.type = 'A' OR n.type = 'N' OR n.type = 'H' OR n.type = 'C') AND (nl.id = 15748 AND contact_lvl = 'company

[HACKERS] Re: [SQL] LEFT JOIN ...

2001-06-18 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Perfect, thank you ... i knew I was overlooking something obvious ... the query just flies now ... On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try adding ... AND n.nid = 15748 ... to the WHERE. n.nid is the note id ... nl.id is the contact id

[HACKERS] Re: fts.postgresql.org ?

2001-06-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
already fixed ... On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Oleg Bartunov wrote: Marc, when I try to reach http://fts.postgresql.org/ I see http://www.hub.org/ what's happens ? Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher,

Re: AW: [HACKERS] vacuum

2001-06-13 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Zeugswetter Andreas SB wrote: Is there a relative consensus for how often to run vacuum? I have a table of about 8 columns that I fill with 100,000 items simply via a \i alarms.sql. After 1,000 items or so it gets extremely slow to fill with data, and will take

Re: AW: [HACKERS] Postgres Replication

2001-06-12 Thread The Hermit Hacker
which I believe is what the rserv implementation in contrib currently does ... no? its funny ... what is in contrib right now was developed in a weekend by Vadim, put in contrib, yet nobody has either used it *or* seen fit to submit patches to improve it ... ? On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Zeugswetter

RE: [HACKERS] Baby girl

2001-06-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
trust me ... girls are soo much fun ... *roll eyes* *watches for lightening* On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Mikheev, Vadim wrote: I had a baby girl on Tuesday. I am working through my backlogged emails today. Congratulations -:) Vadim ---(end of

[HACKERS] Max inserts / sec ... on any platform?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Morning all ... Build a file with 100k INSERT statements in it, and run psql -f on that file ... no BEGIN/END in the file, just straight INSERTs ... what is the max throughput ppl can see? I'm seeing reports of it maxing out on an AIX around 450, and on an HP around 380 ...

Re: [HACKERS] Dual-CPU slower then Single under HP?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 4m:30s is running one process for 100K inserts ... with two CPUs/processes, it increases the time to process by almost 40% ... ? Do you mean two processes inserting into the same table? Yup ... I

Re: [HACKERS] Max inserts / sec ... on any platform?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Okay, based on 5k records and a couple of wallclock minutes being equal to ~120sec, you are getting 41 inserts/sec? On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, KuroiNeko wrote: Build a file with 100k INSERT statements in it, and run psql -f on that file ... no BEGIN/END in the file, just straight INSERTs ...

Re: [HACKERS] Dual-CPU slower then Single under HP?

2001-06-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Great, thanks :) On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Tom Lane wrote: The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, this is one of those known problem, improved in v7.2 sort of issues? Yup. regards, tom lane Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick

Re: [CORE] Re: [HACKERS] Mirrors not tracking main ftp site?

2001-06-05 Thread The Hermit Hacker
okay, just removed the .hidden directory from the ftp server, which should correct that ... I had setup that .hidden directory to be excluded though, not sure why it was bothering things :( On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, bpalmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 However, it seems

[HACKERS] intelligence in writing a query ...

2001-05-30 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Tom, with all the work you've been doing inside planner and optimizer, has there been anything done for 7.1.2 to make how a query is written cause the backend to be more intelligent? I'm playing with a query that I just don't like, since its taking ~3min to run ... It started as: EXPLAIN

Re: [HACKERS] appendum: Re: *really* simple select doesn't useindices ...

2001-05-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The column 'zip' is of type text. As such, indices will not be used except in the case when the where clause is WHERE zip ~ '^text' for btree indices. Uh ... nonsense. Oh good, I was worried there for a sec ...

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
this evening after some of the mirrors have had a chance to download ... On Wed, 23 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The Hermit Hacker writes: which ones should I pull in? the ones in ~/ftp/pub/doc/7.1? or is there newer along that tree that we need to generate? You can take ~petere

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
which ones should I pull in? the ones in ~/ftp/pub/doc/7.1? or is there newer along that tree that we need to generate? On Tue, 22 May 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The Hermit Hacker writes: ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/source/v7.1.2 ... Just want a second opinion before I announce

Re: [HACKERS] Not released yet, but could someone take a quick peak...

2001-05-23 Thread The Hermit Hacker
all mirrors use rsync to update their code, and all of those that are listed at www.postgresql.org, both ftp and www, are no more then 2 days old (Vince, it is two days we set it at, right?) ... On Wed, 23 May 2001, bpalmer wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Tom Lane wrote: every time I've tried

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