by checksums. I am
not familiar with WAL protocol - do we have enough checksums when writing
it out and on the wire? I suspect there are much more things PostgreSQL can
do to be more resilient, and at least detect corruptions earlier.
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adable and writable and generally easy to debug. I'm not bold enough to
propose PostgreSQL to use it, but I'd be happy to see ideas from it to be
used elsewhere.
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her things as well.
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could also be done if there's desire for this.
I'd like to have most user-visible changed checked in earlier. Stuff like
internal refactoring can be done pretty much at any point in development
cycle.
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Michael Paquier <michael.paqu...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Vladimir Rusinov <vrusi...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > On the topic of binaries, there's going to be another patch renaming
> them.
> > Those wil
it's trivial to work-around (symlinks, shell
scripts, etc) and not so trivial to implement in a portable way.
I'm used to workflows with lots of small commits, so I was not able to
force myself to include all of the renames in one diff.
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nd we add
even more maintenance burden than just keeping aliases.
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down the thread:
- no aliases: Stephen, Tom, David F, Vik, Bruce M, David Steele, Robert
Haas => 7
- yes to aliases: Michael P, Andres, Peter E., Cynthia S, Jim N, Vladimir,
Simon R => 7
- avoid renaming altogether: Fujii-san => 1
Duh. Folks, you are not making it easy. :) Looks like we ne
as well.
> As there are two school of thoughts on this thread, keeping your patch
> with the compatibility table is the best move for now. Even if we end
> up by having a version without aliases, that will be just code to
> remove in the final version.
>
Indeed, it is trivial to kill aliases.
New ve
pg_xlogfile_name_offset | pg_wal_file_name_offset
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diff --git a/contrib/bloom/t/001_wal.pl b/contrib/bloom/t/001_wal.pl
index 56c66
ay_location| pg_last_wal_replay_location
pg_switch_xlog | pg_switch_wal
pg_xlog_location_diff | pg_wal_location_diff
pg_xlog_replay_pause| pg_wal_replay_pause
pg_xlog_replay_resume | pg_wal_replay_resume
pg_xlogfile_name | pg_wal_file_n
'recovery' instead of 'xlog_replay' and
used 'wal_file' instead of 'xlogfile'. Does it make sense?
- Release notes. I was unable to find a draft for 10.0. How do I make sure
these renames are not forgotten?
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in 11.0.
This way we are nicer to people who maintain their tools and read release
notes via giving them more time, and nicer to ourselves via cleaning legacy
stuff relatively soon.
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ing providers)
and ask them to migrate to new function names. This is of course will not
fix everything, but it would be a significant chunk. I suspect a lot of
private tools/scripts borrow snippets from github as well.
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Stephen Frost <sfr...@snowman.net> wrote:
> I have a pretty strong
> feeling about this particular change being worthwhile and also pretty
> long overdue.
>
Yeah, sorry for that. I should be able to make some progress early January.
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r it is worth maintaining function aliases.
Assuming these are indeed trivial (can somebody point me to example?) I see
roughly the same amount of downsides both ways.
Having aliases raises additional questions:
- do we keep them documented (probably not?)
- do we keep them forever or kill in some fut
cleanly at head with all tests pass.
I have no further comments, although since I'm not experienced Postgres
reviewer, commiter may want to take another look before merging.
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Regis
> one
> > huge patch submitted?
>
> Please yes. One change makes little sense.
Ack. I was not sure what patch size is preferred here. Will continue with a
patch in original thread later.
Thanks for feedback!
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this a completely standalone backup.
I suggest "method none" instead of "option
none". I found the word "option" confusing in that
sentence.
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vior of psql and makes e.g. server tests depend not only server
behavior but also on piece of irrelevant client-only code.
I could imagine a test system that is both has more-or-less human-readable
expected.out files and does not depend on exact decorations added by psql.
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sense to merge just these, as it will not help
people with whitespace-eating editors.
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can handle trailing whitespaces in expected output files as a
separate issue.
One way to ease the pain is to remove trailing whitespaces in all supported
branches via separate patches.
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On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Vladimir Rusinov <vrusi...@google.com> writes:
> > Therefore, I propose this patch.
>
> Right now is a really bad time to do that; what it will mostly accomplish
> is to break back-patching o
They are considered bad practice in many style guides and many editors
configured to stip them on every save.
Such editors will produce spurious diffs when editing the documentation.
Therefore, I propose this patch.
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On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Peter Eisentraut <
peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On 12/13/16 12:47 PM, Vladimir Rusinov wrote:
> > Based on discussion in
> > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAE1wr-w%
> 3DLE1cK5uG_rmAh-VBxc4_Bnw-gAE3qSqL-%3Dt
Based on discussion in
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAE1wr-w%3DLE1cK5uG_rmAh-VBxc4_Bnw-gAE3qSqL-%3DtWwvLvjQ%40mail.gmail.com
.
Tested via regression tests.
To be applied in master only and to be included in 10.0.
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM Michael Paquier <michael.paqu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Vladimir Rusinov <vrusi...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > I guess it would make sense to do all of it in 10.0.
> > I'm new here, so not very sure about
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:02 AM Michael Paquier <michael.paqu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:21 AM, Robert Haas <robertmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Vladimir Rusinov <vrusi...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >> I've f
ecievexlog to pg_revievewal (and others in bin/)?
- rename pg_xlogdump to pg_waldump?
- if we do rename, should we keep aliases for functions and symlinks for
tools?
- anything else?
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=
LGTM
Architecture review
==
n/a
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Michael Paquier <michael.paqu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> O
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