Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:23 AM Greg Smith wrote: On 11/23/12 5:57 AM, Amit kapila wrote: Let us try to see by example: Total RAM - 22G Database size - 16G ... Case -2 (Shared Buffers - 10G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. In best case OS buffers can contain10-12G data as OS has 12G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 10G will be there in shared buffers. c. Now as there is no direct correlation of data between Shared Buffers and OS buffers, so whenever PG has to access any data which is not there in Shared Buffers, good chances are there that it can lead to IO. I don't think either of these examples are very representative of real-world behavior. The idea of load all the files in OS buffers assumes someone has used a utility like pg_prewarm or pgfincore. It's not something that happens in normal use. Being able to re-populate all of RAM using those utilities isn't realistic anyway. Anyone who tries to load more than (memory - shared_buffers) that way is likely to be disappointed by the result. True, I also think nobody will directly try to do it in this way, but such similar situations can arise after long run. Something like if we assume most used pages fall under the range of RAM. Similarly, the problem you're describing here has been described as the double buffering one for a while now. The old suggestion that shared_buffers not be set about 25% of RAM comes from this sort of concern. If triggering a problem requires doing that, essentially misconfiguring the server, it's hard to get too excited about it. Anyway, none of that impacts on me mixing testing for this into what I'm working on. The way most pgbench tests happen, it's hard to *not* have the important data in cache. Once you run the init step, you have to either reboot or drop the OS cache to get those pages out of RAM. That means the sort of cached setup you're using pg_prewarm to simulate--things are in the OS cache, but not the PostgreSQL one--is one that anyone running an init/test pair will often create. You don't need pg_prewarm to do it. The way, I have ran the tests is to just try to simulate scenario's where invalidating buffers by bgwriter/checkpoint can have advantage. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On 11/23/12 5:57 AM, Amit kapila wrote: Let us try to see by example: Total RAM - 22G Database size - 16G ... Case -2 (Shared Buffers - 10G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. In best case OS buffers can contain10-12G data as OS has 12G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 10G will be there in shared buffers. c. Now as there is no direct correlation of data between Shared Buffers and OS buffers, so whenever PG has to access any data which is not there in Shared Buffers, good chances are there that it can lead to IO. I don't think either of these examples are very representative of real-world behavior. The idea of load all the files in OS buffers assumes someone has used a utility like pg_prewarm or pgfincore. It's not something that happens in normal use. Being able to re-populate all of RAM using those utilities isn't realistic anyway. Anyone who tries to load more than (memory - shared_buffers) that way is likely to be disappointed by the result. Similarly, the problem you're describing here has been described as the double buffering one for a while now. The old suggestion that shared_buffers not be set about 25% of RAM comes from this sort of concern. If triggering a problem requires doing that, essentially misconfiguring the server, it's hard to get too excited about it. Anyway, none of that impacts on me mixing testing for this into what I'm working on. The way most pgbench tests happen, it's hard to *not* have the important data in cache. Once you run the init step, you have to either reboot or drop the OS cache to get those pages out of RAM. That means the sort of cached setup you're using pg_prewarm to simulate--things are in the OS cache, but not the PostgreSQL one--is one that anyone running an init/test pair will often create. You don't need pg_prewarm to do it. If you initialize the database, then restart the server to clear shared_buffers, the result will be similar to what you're doing. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant USg...@2ndquadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
Shouldn't that data be in the shared buffers if not the OS cache and hence approximately same IO will be required? I don't think so as the data in OS cache or PG Shared buffers doesn't have any direct relation, OS can flush its buffers based on its scheduler algorithm. Let us try to see by example: Total RAM - 22G Database size - 16G Case -1 (Shared Buffers - 5G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. Chances are good that all 16G data will be there in OS buffers as OS has still 17G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 5G will be there in shared buffers. c. Chances are high that remaining 11G buffers access will not lead to IO as they will be in OS buffers. Case -2 (Shared Buffers - 10G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. In best case OS buffers can contain10-12G data as OS has 12G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 10G will be there in shared buffers. c. Now as there is no direct correlation of data between Shared Buffers and OS buffers, so whenever PG has to access any data which is not there in Shared Buffers, good chances are there that it can lead to IO. Again, the drop in the performance is so severe that it seems worth investigating that further, especially because you can reproduce it reliably. Yes, I agree that it is worth investigating, but IMO this is a different problem which might not be addressed with the Patch in discussion. The 2 reasons I can think for dip in performance when Shared Buffers increase beyond certain threshhold percentage of RAM are, a. either the algorithm of Buffer Management has some bottleneck b. due to the way data is managed in Shared Buffers and OS buffer cache The point I want to tell is explained at below link as well. http://blog.kimiensoftware.com/2011/05/postgresql-vs-oracle-differences-4-sh ared-memory-usage-257 So if above is true, I think the performance will regain if in the test Shared Buffers are set to 16G. I shall once try that setting for test run. With Regards, Amit Kapila.
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Friday, November 23, 2012 11:15 AM Pavan Deolasee wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: Sorry, I haven't followed this thread at all, but the numbers (43171 and 57920) in the last two runs of @mv-free-list for 32 clients look aberrations, no ? I wonder if that's skewing the average. Yes, that is one of the main reasons, but in all runs this is consistent that for 32 clients or above this kind of numbers are observed. Even Jeff has pointed the similar thing in one of his mails and suggested to run the tests such that first test should run “with patch” and then “without patch”. After doing what he suggested the observations are still similar. Are we convinced that the jump that we are seeing is a real one then ? Still not convinced, as the data has been collected in only my setup. I'm a bit surprised because it happens only with the patch and only for 32 clients. How would you explain that ? The reason this patch can improve performance is due to reduce contention for BufFreeListLock and PartitionLock (which it takes in BufferAlloc a. to remove old page from buffer or b. to see if block is already in buffer pool) in backends. As the number of backends increase the chances of improved performance is much better. In particular for 32 clients when tests run for longer time results are not that skewed. For 32 clients, as mentioned in previous mail when the test has ran for 1 hr, the differrence is not very skewed. 32 client /32 thread for 1 hour @mv-free-lst@9.3devl Single-run:9842.019229 8050.357981 I also looked at the the Results.htm file down thread. There seem to be a steep degradation when the shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, both with and without the patch. Is that expected ? If so, isn't that worth investigating and possibly even fixing before we do anything else ? The reason for decrease in performance is that when shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, the I/O starts as after increasing it cannot hold all the data in OS buffers. Shouldn't that data be in the shared buffers if not the OS cache and hence approximately same IO will be required? I don't think so as the data in OS cache or PG Shared buffers doesn't have any direct relation, OS can flush its buffers based on its scheduler algorithm. Let us try to see by example: Total RAM - 22G Database size - 16G Case -1 (Shared Buffers - 5G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. Chances are good that all 16G data will be there in OS buffers as OS has still 17G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 5G will be there in shared buffers. c. Chances are high that remaining 11G buffers access will not lead to IO as they will be in OS buffers. Case -2 (Shared Buffers - 10G) a. Load all the files in OS buffers. In best case OS buffers can contain10-12G data as OS has 12G of memory available. b. Try to load all in Shared buffers. Last 10G will be there in shared buffers. c. Now as there is no direct correlation of data between Shared Buffers and OS buffers, so whenever PG has to access any data which is not there in Shared Buffers, good chances are there that it can lead to IO. Again, the drop in the performance is so severe that it seems worth investigating that further, especially because you can reproduce it reliably. Yes, I agree that it is worth investigating, but IMO this is a different problem which might not be addressed with the Patch in discussion. The 2 reasons I can think for dip in performance when Shared Buffers increase beyond certain threshhold percentage of RAM are, a. either the algorithm of Buffer Management has some bottleneck b. due to the way data is managed in Shared Buffers and OS buffer cache Any Suggestion/Comments? With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
From: Pavan Deolasee [mailto:pavan.deola...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:26 PM To: Amit kapila Cc: Jeff Janes; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Monday, November 19, 2012 5:53 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:03 PM Jeff Janes wrote: Run the modes in reciprocating order? Sorry, I didn't understood this, What do you mean by modes in reciprocating order? Sorry for the long delay. In your scripts, it looks like you always run the unpatched first, and then the patched second. Yes, thats true. By reciprocating, I mean to run them in the reverse order, or in random order. Today for some configurations, I have ran by reciprocating the order. Below are readings: Configuration 16GB (Database) -7GB (Shared Buffers) Here i had run in following order 1. Run perf report with patch for 32 client 2. Run perf report without patch for 32 client 3. Run perf report with patch for 16 client 4. Run perf report without patch for 16 client Each execution is 5 minutes, 16 client /16 thread| 32 client /32 thread @mv-free-lst @9.3devl| @mv-free-lst @9.3devl --- 36694056| 53565258 39874121| 46255185 48404574| 45026796 64656932| 45588233 69667222| 49558237 75517219| 91158269 83157168| 431718340 91027136| 579208349 --- 63626054| 167757333 Sorry, I haven't followed this thread at all, but the numbers (43171 and 57920) in the last two runs of @mv-free-list for 32 clients look aberrations, no ? I wonder if that's skewing the average. Yes, that is one of the main reasons, but in all runs this is consistent that for 32 clients or above this kind of numbers are observed. Even Jeff has pointed the similar thing in one of his mails and suggested to run the tests such that first test should run with patch and then without patch. After doing what he suggested the observations are still similar. I also looked at the the Results.htm file down thread. There seem to be a steep degradation when the shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, both with and without the patch. Is that expected ? If so, isn't that worth investigating and possibly even fixing before we do anything else ? The reason for decrease in performance is that when shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, the I/O starts as after increasing it cannot hold all the data in OS buffers. With Regards, Amit Kapila
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: ** ** ** ** Sorry, I haven't followed this thread at all, but the numbers (43171 and 57920) in the last two runs of @mv-free-list for 32 clients look aberrations, no ? I wonder if **that's skewing the average. ** ** Yes, that is one of the main reasons, but in all runs this is consistent that for 32 clients or above this kind of numbers are observed. Even Jeff has pointed the similar thing in one of his mails and suggested to run the tests such that first test should run “with patch” and then “without patch”. After doing what he suggested the observations are still similar. ** Are we convinced that the jump that we are seeing is a real one then ? I'm a bit surprised because it happens only with the patch and only for 32 clients. How would you explain that ? ** ** ** I also looked at the the Results.htm file down thread. There seem to be a steep degradation when the shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, both with and without the patch. Is that expected ? If so, isn't that worth investigating and possibly even fixing before we do anything else ? ** ** The reason for decrease in performance is that when shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, the I/O starts as after increasing it cannot hold all the data in OS buffers. Shouldn't that data be in the shared buffers if not the OS cache and hence approximately same IO will be required ? Again, the drop in the performance is so severe that it seems worth investigating that further, especially because you can reproduce it reliably. Thanks, Pavan
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Monday, November 19, 2012 5:53 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:03 PM Jeff Janes wrote: Run the modes in reciprocating order? Sorry, I didn't understood this, What do you mean by modes in reciprocating order? Sorry for the long delay. In your scripts, it looks like you always run the unpatched first, and then the patched second. Yes, thats true. By reciprocating, I mean to run them in the reverse order, or in random order. Today for some configurations, I have ran by reciprocating the order. Below are readings: Configuration 16GB (Database) -7GB (Shared Buffers) Here i had run in following order 1. Run perf report with patch for 32 client 2. Run perf report without patch for 32 client 3. Run perf report with patch for 16 client 4. Run perf report without patch for 16 client Each execution is 5 minutes, 16 client /16 thread| 32 client /32 thread @mv-free-lst @9.3devl| @mv-free-lst @9.3devl --- 36694056| 53565258 39874121| 46255185 48404574| 45026796 64656932| 45588233 69667222| 49558237 75517219| 91158269 83157168| 431718340 91027136| 579208349 --- 63626054| 167757333 Sorry, I haven't followed this thread at all, but the numbers (43171 and 57920) in the last two runs of @mv-free-list for 32 clients look aberrations, no ? I wonder if that's skewing the average. I also looked at the the Results.htm file down thread. There seem to be a steep degradation when the shared buffers are increased from 5GB to 10GB, both with and without the patch. Is that expected ? If so, isn't that worth investigating and possibly even fixing before we do anything else ? Thanks, Pavan
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:05 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: Today again I have again collected the data for configuration Shared_buffers = 7G along with vmstat. The data and vmstat information (bi) are attached with this mail. It is observed from vmstat info that I/O is happening for both cases, however after running for long time, the I/O is also comparatively less with new patch. What I see in the vmstat report is that it takes 5.5 runs to get really good and warmed up, and so it crawls for the first 5.5 benchmarks and then flies for the last 0.5 benchmark. The way you have your runs ordered, that last 0.5 of a benchmark is for the patched version, and this drives up the average tps for the patched case. Also, there is no theoretical reason to think that your patch would decrease the amount of IO needed (in fact, by invalidating buffers early, it could be expected to increase the amount of IO). So this also argues that the increase in performance is caused by the decrease in IO, but the patch isn't causing that decrease, it merely benefits from it due to an accident of timing. Today, I have ran in the opposite order, still I see for some readings the similar observation. I am also not sure of IO part, just based on data I was trying to interpret that way. However may be for some particular scenario, due to OS buffer management it behaves that way. As I am not aware of OS buffer management algorithm, so it's difficult to say that such a change would have any impact on OS buffer management which can yield better performance. With Regards, Amit Kapila. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:03 PM Jeff Janes wrote: Run the modes in reciprocating order? Sorry, I didn't understood this, What do you mean by modes in reciprocating order? Sorry for the long delay. In your scripts, it looks like you always run the unpatched first, and then the patched second. By reciprocating, I mean to run them in the reverse order, or in random order. Also, for the select only transactions, I think that 20 minutes is much longer than necessary. I'd rather see many more runs, each one being shorter. Because you can't restart the server without wiping out the shared_buffers, what I would do is make a test patch which introduces a new guc.c setting which allows the behavior to be turned on and off with a SIGHUP (pg_ctl reload). I haven't been able to detect any reliable difference in performance with this patch. I've been testing with 150 scale factor with 4GB of ram and 4 cores, over a variety of shared_buffers and concurrencies. I think the main reason for this is that when shared buffers are less, then there is no performance gain, even the same is observed by me when I ran this test with shared buffers=2G, there is no performance gain. Please see the results of shared buffers=2G in below mail: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-09/msg00422.php True, but I think that testing with shared_buffers=2G when RAM is 4GB (and pgbench scale is also lower) should behave different than doing so when RAM is 24 GB. The reason I can think of is because when shared buffers are less then clock sweep runs very fast and there is no bottleneck. Only when shared buffers increase above some threshhold, it spends reasonable time in clock sweep. I am rather skeptical of this. When the work set doesn't fit in memory under a select-only workload, then about half the buffers will be evictable at any given time, and half will have usagecount=1, and a handful will usagecount=4 (index meta, root and branch blocks). This will be the case over a wide range of shared_buffers, as long as it is big enough to hold all index branch blocks but not big enough to hold everything. Given this state of affairs, the average clock sweep should be about 2, regardless of the exact size of shared_buffers. The one wrinkle I could think of is if all the usagecount=1 buffers are grouped into a continuous chunk, and all the usagecount=0 are in another chunk. The average would still be 2, but the average would be made up of N/2 runs of length 1, followed by one run of length N/2. Now if 1 process is stuck in the N/2 stretch and all other processes are waiting on that, maybe that somehow escalates the waits so that they are larger when N is larger, but I still don't see how the math works on that. Are you working on this just because it was on the ToDo List, or because you have actually run into a problem with it? I've never seen freelist lock contention be a problem on machines with less than 8 CPU, but both of us are testing on smaller machines. I think we really need to test this on something bigger. Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: Today again I have again collected the data for configuration Shared_buffers = 7G along with vmstat. The data and vmstat information (bi) are attached with this mail. It is observed from vmstat info that I/O is happening for both cases, however after running for long time, the I/O is also comparatively less with new patch. What I see in the vmstat report is that it takes 5.5 runs to get really good and warmed up, and so it crawls for the first 5.5 benchmarks and then flies for the last 0.5 benchmark. The way you have your runs ordered, that last 0.5 of a benchmark is for the patched version, and this drives up the average tps for the patched case. Also, there is no theoretical reason to think that your patch would decrease the amount of IO needed (in fact, by invalidating buffers early, it could be expected to increase the amount of IO). So this also argues that the increase in performance is caused by the decrease in IO, but the patch isn't causing that decrease, it merely benefits from it due to an accident of timing. Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:07 PM Jeff Janes wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: Robert wrote an accounting patch a while ago that tallied how often a buffer was cleaned but then reclaimed for the same page before being evicted. But now I can't find it. If you can find that thread, there might be some benchmarks posted to it that would be useful. In my first level search, I am also not able to find it. But now I am planning to check all mails of Robert Haas on PostgreSQL site (which are approximately 13,000). If you can tell me how long ago approximately (last year, 2 yrs back, ..) or whether such a patch is submitted to any CF or was just discussed in mail chain, then it will be little easier for me. It was just an instrumentation patch for doing experiments, not intended for commit. I've tracked it down to the thread Initial 9.2 pgbench write results. But I don't think it applies to the -S benchmark, because it records when the background writer cleaned a buffer by finding it dirty and writing it out to make it clean, while in this situation we would need something more like either made the buffer clean and reusable, observed the buffer to already be clean and reusable Do you think an instrumentation patch which can give us how many times a buffer is found by Clock Sweep and how many times it's found from freelist will be useful? I have written something on similar lines when I was testing this patch to find out how many times this patch can avoid clock sweep. My observation was that although the new implementation saves many cycles of clock sweep, but still with shared buffers upto 2,2.5G there is no visible performance gain. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:03 PM Jeff Janes wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:38 PM Amit kapila wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:55 PM Amit kapila wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list The results for the updated code is attached with this mail. The scenario is same as in original mail. 1. Load all the files in to OS buffers (using pg_prewarm with 'read' operation) of all tables and indexes. 2. Try to load all buffers with pgbench_accounts table and pgbench_accounts_pkey pages (using pg_prewarm with 'buffers' operation). 3. Run the pgbench with select only for 20 minutes. Platform details: Operating System: Suse-Linux 10.2 x86_64 Hardware : 4 core (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5408 @ 2.13GHz) RAM : 24GB Server Configuration: shared_buffers = 5GB (1/4 th of RAM size) Total data size = 16GB Pgbench configuration: transaction type: SELECT only scaling factor: 1200 query mode: simple number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 duration: 1200 s I shall take further readings for following configurations and post the same: 1. The intention for taking with below configuration is that, with the defined testcase, there will be some cases where I/O can happen. So I wanted to check the impact of it. Shared_buffers - 7 GB number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 transaction type: SELECT only The data for shared_buffers = 7GB is attached with this mail. I have also attached scripts used to take this data. Is this result reproducible? Did you monitor IO (with something like vmstat) to make sure there was no IO going on during the runs? Yes, I have reproduced it 2 times. However I shall reproduce once more and use vmstat as well. I have not observed with vmstat but it is observable in the data. When I have kept shared buffers = 5G, the tps is more and when I increased it to 7G, the tps is reduced which shows there is some I/O started happening. When I increased to 10G, the tps reduced drastically which shows there is lot of I/O. Tommorow I will post 10G shared buffers data as well. Run the modes in reciprocating order? Sorry, I didn't understood this, What do you mean by modes in reciprocating order? If you have 7GB of shared_buffers and 16GB of database, that comes out to 23GB of data to be held in 24GB of RAM. In my experience it is hard to get that much data cached by simple prewarm. the newer data will drive out the older data even if technically there is room. So then when you start running the benchmark, you still have to read in some of the data which dramatically slows down the benchmark. Yes with 7G, the chances of doing I/O is high but with 5G, chances are less which is observed in the data as well(TPS in 7G data is less than in 5G). Please see the results of 5G shared buffers in mail below: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-09/msg00318.php In 7G case, you can see in the data that without this patch, the tps with original code is quite less as compare to 5G data. I am sorry, there is one typo error in 7G shared buffers data, it is mentioned wrongly 5G in heading of data. I haven't been able to detect any reliable difference in performance with this patch. I've been testing with 150 scale factor with 4GB of ram and 4 cores, over a variety of shared_buffers and concurrencies. I think the main reason for this is that when shared buffers are less, then there is no performance gain, even the same is observed by me when I ran this test with shared buffers=2G, there is no performance gain. Please see the results of shared buffers=2G in below mail: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-09/msg00422.php The reason I can think of is because when shared buffers are less then clock sweep runs very fast and there is no bottleneck. Only when shared buffers increase above some threshhold, it spends reasonable time in clock sweep. I shall once run with the same configuration as mentioned by you, but I think it will not give any performance gain due to reason mentioned above. Is it feasible for you to run with higher shared buffers and also somewhat large data and RAM. Basically I want to know if you can mimic the situation mentioned by tests I have posted. In anycase I shall run the tests once again and post the data. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:15 PM Jeff Janes wrote: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. As I understood and anlyzed based on above, that there is problem in attached patch such that in function InvalidateBuffer(), after UnlockBufHdr() and before PartitionLock if some backend uses that buffer and increase the usage count to 1, still InvalidateBuffer() will remove the buffer from hash table and put it in Freelist. I have modified the code to address above by checking refcount usage_count inside Partition Lock , LockBufHdr and only after that move it to freelist which is similar to InvalidateBuffer. In actual code we can optimize the current code by using extra parameter in InvalidateBuffer. Please let me know if I understood you correctly or you want to say something else by above comment? Yes, I think that this is part of the risk I was hinting at. I haven't evaluated your fix to it. But assuming it is now safe, I still think it is a bad idea to invalidate a perfectly good buffer. Now a process that wants that page will have to read it in again, even though it is still sitting there. This is particularly bad because the background writer is coded to always circle the buffer pool every 2 minutes, whether that many clean buffers are needed or not. I think that that is a bad idea, but having it invalidate buffers as it goes is even worse. That is true, but is it not the case of low activity, and in general BGwriter takes into account how many buffers alloced and clock swipe completed passes to make sure it cleans the buffers appropriately. One more doubt I have is whether this behavior (circle the buffer pool every 2 minutes) can't be controlled by 'bgwriter_lru_maxpages' as this number can dictate how much buffers to clean in each cycle. I think the code for the free-list linked list is written so that it performs correctly for a valid buffer to be on the freelist, even though that does not happen under current implementations. If you find that a buffer on the freelist has become pinned, used, or dirty since it was added (which can only happen if it is still valid), you just remove it and try again. Is it actually possible in any usecase, that buffer mgmt algorithm can find any buffer on freelist which is pinned or is dirty? Also, do we want to actually invalidate the buffers? If someone does happen to want one after it is put on the freelist, making it read it in again into a different buffer doesn't seem like a nice thing to do, rather than just letting it reclaim it. But even if bgwriter/checkpoint don't do, Backend needing new buffer will do similar things (remove from hash table) for this buffer as this is nextvictim buffer. Right, but only if it is the nextvictim, here we do it if it is nextvictim+N, for some largish values of N. (And due to the 2 minutes rule, sometimes for very large values of N) Can't we control this 2 minutes rule using new or existing GUC, is there any harm in that as you pointed out earlier also in mail chain that it is not good. Because such a parameter can make the flushing by BGwriter more valuable. I'm not sure how to devise a test case to prove that this can be important, though. To start with, can't we do simple test where all (most) of the pages are in shared buffers and then run pg_bench select only test? This test we can run with various configurations of shared buffers. I have done the tests similar to above, and it shows good perf. improvement for shared buffers conf. as(25% of RAM). Robert wrote an accounting patch a while ago that tallied how often a buffer was cleaned but then reclaimed for the same page before being evicted. But now I can't find it. If you can find that thread, there might be some benchmarks posted to it that would be useful. In my first level search, I am also not able to find it. But now I am planning to check all mails of Robert Haas on PostgreSQL site (which are approximately 13,000). If you can tell me how long ago approximately (last year, 2 yrs back, ..) or whether such a patch is submitted to any CF or was just discussed in mail chain, then it will be little easier for me. Thank you for doing the initial review of work. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:38 PM Amit kapila wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:55 PM Amit kapila wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list The results for the updated code is attached with this mail. The scenario is same as in original mail. 1. Load all the files in to OS buffers (using pg_prewarm with 'read' operation) of all tables and indexes. 2. Try to load all buffers with pgbench_accounts table and pgbench_accounts_pkey pages (using pg_prewarm with 'buffers' operation). 3. Run the pgbench with select only for 20 minutes. Platform details: Operating System: Suse-Linux 10.2 x86_64 Hardware : 4 core (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5408 @ 2.13GHz) RAM : 24GB Server Configuration: shared_buffers = 5GB (1/4 th of RAM size) Total data size = 16GB Pgbench configuration: transaction type: SELECT only scaling factor: 1200 query mode: simple number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 duration: 1200 s I shall take further readings for following configurations and post the same: 1. The intention for taking with below configuration is that, with the defined testcase, there will be some cases where I/O can happen. So I wanted to check the impact of it. Shared_buffers - 7 GB number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 transaction type: SELECT only The data for shared_buffers = 7GB is attached with this mail. I have also attached scripts used to take this data. Is this result reproducible? Did you monitor IO (with something like vmstat) to make sure there was no IO going on during the runs? Run the modes in reciprocating order? If you have 7GB of shared_buffers and 16GB of database, that comes out to 23GB of data to be held in 24GB of RAM. In my experience it is hard to get that much data cached by simple prewarm. the newer data will drive out the older data even if technically there is room. So then when you start running the benchmark, you still have to read in some of the data which dramatically slows down the benchmark. I haven't been able to detect any reliable difference in performance with this patch. I've been testing with 150 scale factor with 4GB of ram and 4 cores, over a variety of shared_buffers and concurrencies. Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: Robert wrote an accounting patch a while ago that tallied how often a buffer was cleaned but then reclaimed for the same page before being evicted. But now I can't find it. If you can find that thread, there might be some benchmarks posted to it that would be useful. In my first level search, I am also not able to find it. But now I am planning to check all mails of Robert Haas on PostgreSQL site (which are approximately 13,000). If you can tell me how long ago approximately (last year, 2 yrs back, ..) or whether such a patch is submitted to any CF or was just discussed in mail chain, then it will be little easier for me. It was just an instrumentation patch for doing experiments, not intended for commit. I've tracked it down to the thread Initial 9.2 pgbench write results. But I don't think it applies to the -S benchmark, because it records when the background writer cleaned a buffer by finding it dirty and writing it out to make it clean, while in this situation we would need something more like either made the buffer clean and reusable, observed the buffer to already be clean and reusable Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. The Patch has simple implementation for bgwriter or checkpoint process moving the unused buffers (unpinned with ZERO usage_count buffers) into freelist. I don't think InvalidateBuffer can be safely used in this way. It says We assume that no other backend could possibly be interested in using the page, which is not true here. As I understood and anlyzed based on above, that there is problem in attached patch such that in function InvalidateBuffer(), after UnlockBufHdr() and before PartitionLock if some backend uses that buffer and increase the usage count to 1, still InvalidateBuffer() will remove the buffer from hash table and put it in Freelist. I have modified the code to address above by checking refcount usage_count inside Partition Lock , LockBufHdr and only after that move it to freelist which is similar to InvalidateBuffer. In actual code we can optimize the current code by using extra parameter in InvalidateBuffer. Please let me know if I understood you correctly or you want to say something else by above comment? Yes, I think that this is part of the risk I was hinting at. I haven't evaluated your fix to it. But assuming it is now safe, I still think it is a bad idea to invalidate a perfectly good buffer. Now a process that wants that page will have to read it in again, even though it is still sitting there. This is particularly bad because the background writer is coded to always circle the buffer pool every 2 minutes, whether that many clean buffers are needed or not. I think that that is a bad idea, but having it invalidate buffers as it goes is even worse. I think the code for the free-list linked list is written so that it performs correctly for a valid buffer to be on the freelist, even though that does not happen under current implementations. If you find that a buffer on the freelist has become pinned, used, or dirty since it was added (which can only happen if it is still valid), you just remove it and try again. Also, do we want to actually invalidate the buffers? If someone does happen to want one after it is put on the freelist, making it read it in again into a different buffer doesn't seem like a nice thing to do, rather than just letting it reclaim it. But even if bgwriter/checkpoint don't do, Backend needing new buffer will do similar things (remove from hash table) for this buffer as this is nextvictim buffer. Right, but only if it is the nextvictim, here we do it if it is nextvictim+N, for some largish values of N. (And due to the 2 minutes rule, sometimes for very large values of N) I'm not sure how to devise a test case to prove that this can be important, though. Robert wrote an accounting patch a while ago that tallied how often a buffer was cleaned but then reclaimed for the same page before being evicted. But now I can't find it. If you can find that thread, there might be some benchmarks posted to it that would be useful. Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:55 PM Amit kapila wrote: On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. The Patch has simple implementation for bgwriter or checkpoint process moving the unused buffers (unpinned with ZERO usage_count buffers) into freelist. I don't think InvalidateBuffer can be safely used in this way. It says We assume that no other backend could possibly be interested in using the page, which is not true here. As I understood and anlyzed based on above, that there is problem in attached patch such that in function InvalidateBuffer(), after UnlockBufHdr() and before PartitionLock if some backend uses that buffer and increase the usage count to 1, still InvalidateBuffer() will remove the buffer from hash table and put it in Freelist. I have modified the code to address above by checking refcount usage_count inside Partition Lock , LockBufHdr and only after that move it to freelist which is similar to InvalidateBuffer. In actual code we can optimize the current code by using extra parameter in InvalidateBuffer. Please let me know if I understood you correctly or you want to say something else by above comment? The results for the updated code is attached with this mail. The scenario is same as in original mail. 1. Load all the files in to OS buffers (using pg_prewarm with 'read' operation) of all tables and indexes. 2. Try to load all buffers with pgbench_accounts table and pgbench_accounts_pkey pages (using pg_prewarm with 'buffers' operation). 3. Run the pgbench with select only for 20 minutes. Platform details: Operating System: Suse-Linux 10.2 x86_64 Hardware : 4 core (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5408 @ 2.13GHz) RAM : 24GB Server Configuration: shared_buffers = 5GB (1/4 th of RAM size) Total data size = 16GB Pgbench configuration: transaction type: SELECT only scaling factor: 1200 query mode: simple number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 duration: 1200 s I shall take further readings for following configurations and post the same: 1. The intention for taking with below configuration is that, with the defined testcase, there will be some cases where I/O can happen. So I wanted to check the impact of it. Shared_buffers - 7 GB number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 transaction type: SELECT only 2.The intention for taking with below configuration is that, with the defined testcase, memory kept for shared buffers is less then the recommended. So I wanted to check the impact of it. Shared_buffers - 2 GB number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 transaction type: SELECT only 3. The intention for taking with below configuration is that, with the defined testcase, it will test mix of dml operations where there will be I/O due to dml operations. So I wanted to check the impact of it. Shared_buffers - 5GB number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 transaction type: tpc_b One problem I could see with proposed change is that in some cases the usage count will get decrement for a buffer allocated from free list immediately as it can be nextvictimbuffer. However there can be solution to this problem. With Regards, Amit Kapila. Original Postgres 9.3devel SIZE 16GB-5GB 16GB-5GB 16GB - 5GB 16GB - 5GB Clients 8C / 8T 16C / 16T 32C / 32T 64C / 64T RUN-1 60269 72325329 52853 63425001 32562 39096275 15375 18502725 RUN-2 60370 72451857 58453 70151866 33181 39841490 16348 19670518 RUN-3 59292 71159080 58976 70782600 33584 40344977 16469 19801260 Average 59977 71978755 56761 68119822 33109 39760914 16064 19324834 Bgwriter/Checkpoint process moving unused bufferes to Free List modification SIZE 16GB-5GB 16GB-5GB 16GB - 5GB 16GB - 5GB Clients 8C / 8T 16C / 16T 32C / 32T 64C / 64T RUN-1 60020 72025508 59394 71297211 56372 67676069 26572 31987430 RUN-2 60178 72218315 59069 7085 56079 67317399 28143 33804132 RUN-3 59827
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:42 AM Jeff Janes wrote: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. The Patch has simple implementation for bgwriter or checkpoint process moving the unused buffers (unpinned with ZERO usage_count buffers) into freelist. I don't think InvalidateBuffer can be safely used in this way. It says We assume that no other backend could possibly be interested in using the page, which is not true here. As I understood and anlyzed based on above, that there is problem in attached patch such that in function InvalidateBuffer(), after UnlockBufHdr() and before PartitionLock if some backend uses that buffer and increase the usage count to 1, still InvalidateBuffer() will remove the buffer from hash table and put it in Freelist. I have modified the code to address above by checking refcount usage_count inside Partition Lock , LockBufHdr and only after that move it to freelist which is similar to InvalidateBuffer. In actual code we can optimize the current code by using extra parameter in InvalidateBuffer. Please let me know if I understood you correctly or you want to say something else by above comment? Also, do we want to actually invalidate the buffers? If someone does happen to want one after it is put on the freelist, making it read it in again into a different buffer doesn't seem like a nice thing to do, rather than just letting it reclaim it. But even if bgwriter/checkpoint don't do, Backend needing new buffer will do similar things (remove from hash table) for this buffer as this is nextvictim buffer. The main intention of doing the MoveBufferToFreeList is to avoid contention of Partition Locks and BufFreeListLock among backends, which has given Performance improvement in high contention scenarios. One problem I could see with proposed change is that in some cases the usage count will get decrement for a buffer allocated from free list immediately as it can be nextvictimbuffer. However there can be solution to this problem. Can you suggest some scenario's where I should do more performance test? With Regards, Amit Kapila.diff --git a/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c b/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c index dba19eb..87446cb 100644 --- a/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c +++ b/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c @@ -955,6 +955,88 @@ retry: StrategyFreeBuffer(buf); } + +/* + * MoveBufferToFreeList -- mark a shared buffer invalid and return it to the + * freelist. which is similar to InvalidateBuffer function. + */ +static void +MoveBufferToFreeList(volatile BufferDesc *buf) +{ + BufferTag oldTag; + uint32 oldHash;/* hash value for oldTag */ + LWLockIdoldPartitionLock; /* buffer partition lock for it */ + BufFlagsoldFlags; + + /* Save the original buffer tag before dropping the spinlock */ + oldTag = buf-tag; + + UnlockBufHdr(buf); + + /* +* Need to compute the old tag's hashcode and partition lock ID. XXX is it +* worth storing the hashcode in BufferDesc so we need not recompute it +* here? Probably not. +*/ + oldHash = BufTableHashCode(oldTag); + oldPartitionLock = BufMappingPartitionLock(oldHash); + + + /* +* Acquire exclusive mapping lock in preparation for changing the buffer's +* association. +*/ + LWLockAcquire(oldPartitionLock, LW_EXCLUSIVE); + + /* Re-lock the buffer header */ + LockBufHdr(buf); + + /* If it's changed while we were waiting for lock, do nothing */ + if (!BUFFERTAGS_EQUAL(buf-tag, oldTag)) + { + UnlockBufHdr(buf); + LWLockRelease(oldPartitionLock); + return; + } + + /* +* Validate wheather we can add the buffer into freelist or not +*/ + if ((buf-refcount != 0) || (buf-usage_count != 0)) + { + UnlockBufHdr(buf); + LWLockRelease(oldPartitionLock); + return; + } + + /* +* Clear out the buffer's tag and flags. We must do this to ensure that +* linear scans of the buffer array don't think the buffer is valid. +*/ + oldFlags = buf-flags; + CLEAR_BUFFERTAG(buf-tag); + buf-flags = 0; + buf-usage_count = 0; + + UnlockBufHdr(buf); + + /* +* Remove the buffer from the lookup hashtable, if it was in there. +*/ + if (oldFlags BM_TAG_VALID) + BufTableDelete(oldTag, oldHash); + + /* +* Done with mapping lock. +*/ +
[HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. The Patch has simple implementation for bgwriter or checkpoint process moving the unused buffers (unpinned with ZERO usage_count buffers) into freelist. Results (Results.html attached with mail) are taken with following configuration. Current scenario is 1. Load all the files in to OS buffers (using pg_prewarm with 'read' operation) of all tables and indexes. 2. Try to load all buffers with pgbench_accounts table and pgbench_accounts_pkey pages (using pg_prewarm with 'buffers' operation). 3. Run the pgbench with select only for 20 minutes. Platform details: Operating System: Suse-Linux 10.2 x86_64 Hardware : 4 core (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5408 @ 2.13GHz) RAM : 24GB Server Configuration: shared_buffers = 6GB (1/4 th of RAM size) Pgbench configuration: transaction type: SELECT only scaling factor: 1200 query mode: simple number of clients: varying from 8 to 64 number of threads: varying from 8 to 64 duration: 1200 s Comments or suggestions? I am still collecting data for update and other operations performance results with different database configuration. With Regards, Amit Kapila. diff --git a/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c b/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c index dba19eb..2b9cfbb 100644 --- a/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c +++ b/src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c @@ -1660,8 +1660,20 @@ SyncOneBuffer(int buf_id, bool skip_recently_used) if (!(bufHdr-flags BM_VALID) || !(bufHdr-flags BM_DIRTY)) { - /* It's clean, so nothing to do */ - UnlockBufHdr(bufHdr); + /* +* If the buffer is unused then move it to freelist +*/ + if ((bufHdr-flags BM_VALID) +(bufHdr-refcount == 0 bufHdr-usage_count == 0) +(bufHdr-freeNext == FREENEXT_NOT_IN_LIST)) + { + InvalidateBuffer(bufHdr); + } + else + { + /* It's clean, so nothing to do */ + UnlockBufHdr(bufHdr); + } return result; } @@ -1677,6 +1689,20 @@ SyncOneBuffer(int buf_id, bool skip_recently_used) LWLockRelease(bufHdr-content_lock); UnpinBuffer(bufHdr, true); + + /* +* If the buffer is unused then move it to freelist +*/ + LockBufHdr(bufHdr); + if (bufHdr-refcount == 0 bufHdr-usage_count == 0) + { + InvalidateBuffer(bufHdr); + } + else + { + UnlockBufHdr(bufHdr); + } + return result | BUF_WRITTEN; } Original Postgres 9.3devel SIZE 16GB-5GB 16GB-5GB 16GB - 5GB 16GB - 5GB Clients 8C / 8T 16C / 16T 32C / 32T 64C / 64T RUN-1 60269 72325329 52853 63425001 32562 39096275 15375 18502725 RUN-2 60370 72451857 58453 70151866 33181 39841490 16348 19670518 RUN-3 59292 71159080 58976 70782600 33584 40344977 16469 19801260 Average 59977 71978755 56761 68119822 33109 39760914 16064 19324834 Bgwriter/Checkpoint process moving unused bufferes to Free List modification SIZE 16GB-5GB 16GB-5GB 16GB - 5GB 16GB - 5GB Clients 16C / 16T 16C / 16T 32C / 32T 64C / 64T RUN-1 57152 68591311 60072 72096257 57957 69574459 50240 60363537 RUN-2 60707 72858156 60013 72026319 57939 69566401 50090 60115068 RUN-3 60567 72689308 59853 71832898 57925 69546383 50297 60360896 Average 59475 71379592 59979 71985158 57940 69562414 50209 60279834 Diff in % Difference -0.837 -0.8324 5.6694 5.6743 74.998 74.952 212.56 211.93 -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] [WIP PATCH] for Performance Improvement in Buffer Management
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Amit kapila amit.kap...@huawei.com wrote: This patch is based on below Todo Item: Consider adding buffers the background writer finds reusable to the free list I have tried implementing it and taken the readings for Select when all the data is in either OS buffers or Shared Buffers. The Patch has simple implementation for bgwriter or checkpoint process moving the unused buffers (unpinned with ZERO usage_count buffers) into freelist. I don't think InvalidateBuffer can be safely used in this way. It says We assume that no other backend could possibly be interested in using the page, which is not true here. Also, do we want to actually invalidate the buffers? If someone does happen to want one after it is put on the freelist, making it read it in again into a different buffer doesn't seem like a nice thing to do, rather than just letting it reclaim it. Cheers, Jeff -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers