[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-29 Thread Tom Lane
"Joel Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 25 Nov 2000, at 17:35, Tom Lane wrote: Ugh. The reason that removing the socket file allowed a second postmaster to start up is that we use an advisory lock on the socket file as the interlock that prevents two PMs on the same port number. Remove

[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-29 Thread Joel Burton
Ah, I see why the data-directory interlock file wasn't helping: it wasn't checked until *after* shared memory was set up (read clobbered :-(). This was not a very bright choice. I'm still surprised that the shared-memory reset should've trashed your database so thoroughly, though. Over

[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-29 Thread Tom Lane
"Joel Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it wasn't just two views pointing at each other (it would, of course, be next to impossible to even create those, unless you hand tweaked the system tables), but I think was a view-relies-on-a- function-relies-on-a-view kind of problem. Oh,

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-27 Thread Marko Kreen
On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 07:41:52PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, this turns out to be similar to what you wrote in http://www.postgresql.org/mhonarc/pgsql-hackers/1998-08/msg00835.html Well, we've talked before about moving the socket files to

[HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-25 Thread Larry Rosenman
* Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001125 16:37]: "Joel Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This story does indicate that we need a less fragile interlock against starting two postmasters on one database. I have to admit that it hadn't occurred to me that you could break the port-number interlock

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.*files

2000-11-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: There is a related issue on my todo list, though --- didn't we find out awhile back that some older Linux kernels crash and burn if one attempts to get an advisory lock on a socket file? (See thread 7/6/00) Were we going to fix that, and if so how? Or will we just tell

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [GENERAL] Warning: Don't delete those /tmp/.PGSQL.* files

2000-11-25 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we could name the socket file .s.PGSQL.port.pid and make .s.PGSQL.port a symlink. Then you can find out whether the postmaster that created the file is still running. Or just create a lockfile /tmp/.s.PGSQL.port#.lock, ie, same name as socket